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You can also use the Prolimatech Samuel 17 in the SG05. You then have enough clearance to flip the PSU (fan facing UP) while having the CPU fan pushing air DOWN.

What you just said doesn't make much sense. Higher efficiency is EXACTLY equivalent to lower heat dissipation from the components: Roughly: for exemple Bronze: 300W delivered is 300/.85=353W drawn so 53W dissipated Gold: 300W delivered is 300/.9=333W drawn so 33W dissipated

Well I run mine with a 3570K and I can't overclock. I haven't updated the BIOS for a while though...

Actually I've been running my system on the basic 300W in SG05, but that's because my GPU was fairly frugal (6850). But that was with a lot of margin (can't remember the exact numbers). I've heard that 7850 is fine too. Right now I don't even have a discrete GPU (not playing at all). The point...

Uhh 450W an absolute minimum? you're pushing it. SG05 with 450W SFX has no problem powering powerful machines, with a GTX680, 6970, or 7970. Thing to remember: this is mini-ITX so single GPU config. Actually even the 300W version is powerful enough for very good gaming rigs. That's why maybe...

If you are not overclocking: 1. a blow-down cooler is more than enough (AXP-140, Samuel 17) and provide a lot more airflow arount the CPU (VRM) and if you select the right fan, more silent then most closed-loop water-cooling setups where pumps are usually rather noisy. 2. If you flip the...

Like a few of their latest SFF designs, there is no optical drive. Not a deal breaker, but a slot-in opening would have been nice.

Not sure about the answer to your question, but why not pick the FSP 300W SFX instead. That's the one that comes with the SG05 300W, and it's quite good. FSP SFX 300W

That shop is usually pretty reliable, they wouldn't pull a date out of their bottom. I like the height above the CPU. Some tall air coolers should fit, that is if the PSU doesn't encroach too much on their space. I guess the mobo CPU placement will be important with this case.

Calling your statement silly is rude? I almost did write something rude and then I thought, nah, silly ought to do it. You can't expect blurting out stuff like that without being called on it. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings...

Yes I know, but my proc is a K and the P8H77-I won't let me go above 34.

That's one silly flat-out statement. What's that got to do with anything? ASrock has been making quality boards for a while now. Sure you might prefer Asus boards and that's your right, but for most people the decision will be down to features/layout/price etc... Anyhow: Like I said in...

There is also one from ASRock: H77M-ITX.

Here's the good news. There is CPU voltage adjustment, if coarse (0, +0.05, +0.10, +0.15). Now here is the really bad news: can't adjust the CPU multiplier up from 34 (on my 3570K). You read this right. I'm guessing it's a decision from Asus to differentiate their boards. Maybe BIOS updates...

Here is a video. It's in swedish but informative anyway. Note: this case is BIG. For me the most shocking is its width. Bitfenix Prodigy on Sweclockers

I'll investigate the P8H77-I/3570K overclocking situation in the next few days when I receive my CPU. As I understand it, the only limitation is the lack of voltage control. But I'll know more soon.

Check this out from silentpcreview: no problem with the GPU slot but low profile RAM is a must if you are going to use all the banks. Even though your mobo is totally different, this might help: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1261-page3.html

The C14 would need only the bottom fan because the 180mm case fan would be just above to provide the push. Anyway the AXP is quite good and you should be able to fit a 140mm fan on top if I'm not mistaken.

I'd say that the Samuel, while being quite good, is the worst cooler of the 3. But it also depends on how high you will be OCing. Btw have you considered the Noctua C14 (with only the bottom fan). I hear it's a beast. Dunno if it will clear the sides but...

I'd say the Silverstone TJ08E is the case to look at.

Hmm runs hotter? 1. it comes from preliminary results from ES samples 2. It's also in highly overclocked situations, for which IB will always have a performance advantage anyway It's just that you couldn't wait 2 more weeks and that's OK. Or you wanted to save a few bucks, which is OK too.

The Samuel 17 should be perfect: the H61 doesn't have any overclocking IIRC so it should have no problem dissipating the heat from the CPU. Only problem with the Samuel 17 is its patchy availability.

Or alternatively look at the PS07 thread :rolleyes: New Silverstone PS07 mATX

http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/14677-silverstone-slapper-micro-atx-ladan-ps07 http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=314&area=

You should be fine with tape. Make sure of using non-conductive tape to prevent short circuits on the GPU. It would be a shame, wouldn't it?

It's already available... in Sweden :) (Fractal Design is a Swedish company)

Have you tried a wired connection to your router? Just to be sure that the problem doesn't come from something else than the USB dongle's driver.

True but this guy has been writing those nonsensical posts for a while now. I guess it could be the work of a troll and I should maybe chill out. Then again maybe not.

Jesus is this another one of your 'wait for Ivy Bridge' posts? Unfortunately you just showed that you don't understand much. A Blu-Ray or HDD being bumped to a slow port? You kidding? How many Blu-ray players or HDD max out the SATA 3Gbps ports? I believe it's about none. You want to wait for...

hmm more like waiting for retailers and prices...

According to this swedish website, Zotac will release their Z68 miniITX on May 31st: Zotac Z68 miniITX announced. Dunno about widespread availability though...

By the looks of it the P8H67-I (non deluxe) is now available at a few European e-tailers.

The ASRock is a great choice IMHO. And the Asus P8H67-I (non deluxe) should be available any day now.

The thread is alive! I still think it is one of the best mATX boards ever made. OK nowadays every manufacturer and their grandma make a couple mATX boards but back in those days (yeah, 2007-2008 those were the days :)) it was hard to find decent boards in the format. The only thing missing for...

Surely you meant this: V-352 thread

Oh and by the way I have now read 3 different test/reviews noting the same RAM speed issue with the Foxconn.

The Samuel 17 does. Not super high performance but it does. The AXP-140 does too, if I am not mistaken.

The only thing missing on the Foxconn is the USB 3.0. If that's important to you. Also a reviewer had problems getting his RAM running at 1333 (was stuck at 1066). I guess it is just a BIOS fix away... Otherwise I wonder if a Big Shuriken would fit.

I used to have a P5E-VM HDMI and I'm pretty sure that the BIOS fan controller worked with 3-pin fans. The FanXpert software (in Windows) is a totally different thing, if I remember correctly.

Well let me know if you start seeing it. I'm checking everyday in Sweden and Asus boards in general are really trickling in after the B2-chipset snafu. So mITX boards? I'm not holding my breath.