The manual also reveals this:
I've seen these "minor" cases on two 2713HM models, and they showed up after just a few minutes of use. Very disturbing on dark gray backgrounds, like the UI of 3dsmax or PS CS6.
To me this looks like a "feature" of AH-IPS panels. :(
I'm sorry, but that's bollocks :)
First of all, if your main concern is "what happens if the computer pauses, or the game stutters", then being able to render @240FPS won't guarantee a fix. Micro stuttering and freezes can occur regardless of processing power. Furthermore, multi-GPU...
Excellent! This means it wasn't bleeding, just panel glow. It's probably more pronounced because of the screen size - the larger the screen, the sharper your viewing angle will be towards the edges.
There seems to be a bit of bleeding in the second pic, but if you say the camera makes it...
@weagle thank you for the pics, but that does not look like backlight bleeding to me.
The front shot shows bright areas most noticeable in both left and right lower corners. However, each angle shot shows increased brightness in the farthest corner, and no bright spots in the corner closest to...
Asus rep confirmed this has a "true 8-bit" panel!
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?21586-Want-To-Go-2560x1440-ASUS-PB278Q-Launches-For-Big-Screen-Pros&p=163479&viewfull=1#post163479
Looks like it's actually a PLS panel. High response time is confirmed, and the input lag is also pretty high. Not meant for gamers...
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/viewsonic_vp2770-led.htm
It's probably not IPS glow, most U2713HM monitors seem to have bleeding in the lower-left corner.
IPS glow is only visible in areas that are at an angle from your view. So you can check by moving your head and looking straight at the corner - if it's still visible then it's bleeding.
Can't wait for a review!
Meanwhile Dell "announced" a few more monitors.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/27.htm#dell_u_replacements
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/27.htm#dell_s-line
Looks like U2711 is being discontinued and no sign of a replacement.
But why on earth...
Sadly it has 12ms response time. There was a bit of confusion around this, as the European website listed 12ms G2G while the US website showed 5ms (typ). But now both have 12ms in the spec sheet.
It seems it's using the same panel as HP ZR2740, maybe even the new light-AG version. Review should...
That's very strange. I paid the equivalent of 720 USD for mine, and things are generally more expensive here compared to the US.
Is it possible they deliberately "dumped" the first batches with issues for a lower price?
I replaced the first one and got my money back after the second. Reason for both was image retention and backlight bleeding.
But there's no "Dell" where I'm from, I had to deal with the store and luckily they have a 30-day money back guarantee.
If he didn't check for it on a dark gray background, it's possible he didn't notice.
Also, if you display "dynamic" images for a few hours, the IR will go away or or not show up at all when testing.
In their forums he says he hasn't experienced any image retention while browsing the forum/website. That's not a proper way to test it.
Still, it possible he got it from a good batch. Can you ask when it was manufactured?
@BearOso Nah, I'd never consider koreean/"no-name" monitors.
@Murzilka Actually S27A850 seems to be the best choice at the moment - backlight bleeding but no image retention.
For now I'm hoping that a new revision will fix these issues.
That doesn't make sense, DVI and DP are digital links.
I had a similar situation with my old HP LP2475w where switching from DP to DVI resulted in a much brighter image. I always blamed it on monitor or driver settings, but never investigated.
@Drags even if it's not 120Hz, 5ms and H-IPS...
Spoken the truth :(
I got my money back today and frankly I don't know what to do. It seems I can't find any good 27" 2560x1440 WLED monitors.
I wonder when the LM270WQ1-SLB1 will make its appearance... 8-bit+Hi-FRC, 5ms, 120Hz - seems awesome on paper.
@skerz075 Thanks for confirming image retention, it's sad news.
Where are you from? The problem could be restricted to only one or a few batches. Mine is also Rev 000 manufactured in June 2012.
Yes, bleeding looks worse when photographed depending on what camera settings you use. But I already stated that in my case it's quite visible with the naked eye.
Turn off the monitor for a few hours. It's best to test this in the morning or after you've been away for a while.
When you turn it back on, set a black desktop background and open a Windows explorer window, or something white. It shouldn't cover the whole screen, just part of it.
Leave it there...
There is a fair amount of tinting but it's hard to notice and I wouldn't call it an issue. I believe the first one was better in this regard.
One option would be to wait for the new LM270WQ3 or LM300WQ6 panels from LG, but I have no idea when such monitors will be available.
I'd be willing to...
Make that 2 samples :p My replacement still has image retention visible after only 15 minutes.
Te reason why this issue isn't widely discussed is probably because it's hard to see. It's most obvious on a dark (80%) gray background (RGB 47-47-47).
You might think you won't be using such a...
The guys at the store said they couldn't see any image retention, so I had to go there and show them :D
I should get a replacement tomorrow and I'll keep you posted.
Lol thanks :) I was indeed looking forward to these new PLS screens, and that Asus was my first choice.
Yes, it most likely does use a PLS screen. I know their marketing was a bit confusing, but think about it: PLS is derived from IPS, so there's a (small) grain of truth when saying "IPS...
YouTube user Guz West pointed me to the user manual where it clearly states "Display Colors 16.7 M(6bit Hi FRC)"
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/LCD%20Monitors/PB278_UserGuide_English.pdf - page 3-8, fifth from the end
EDIT: Asus rep confirmed it has a "true 8-bit" panel...
I tested it again today and after 10-15 minutes I get image retention.
I'm on my way to the store, hope they can give me a replacement right away...
@BearOso if what you say is true and the whole batch has this problem, then I'm really in a tight spot. This was the best choice for me out of...
@dremic I do like to keep things dark in my computer room for various reasons. One of them is that I don't see the point of having the lights on when all I do is look at a self-illuminated screen.
Call it what you want, but you should remember professionals (the other kind) do this too in order...
After flipping through red, green and blue images a few times it's gone (for now). It's really strange, up until now I've been using an HP LP2475w IPS monitor for almost 4 years and this never happened.
Back to the bleeding; I just remember reading somewhere that backlight bleeding is caused by...
I just got one today and sadly it has backlight bleeding issues. Top bleeding is worse than it looks and vice-verse:
I'm starting to get used to the lower-left area since it's not much worse than typical IPS glow
But the fun doesn't stop here. After a bit browsing and watching a movie, I...
Does anyone have one, the ST3500410SV in particular? If so, could you please post some impressions and benchmarks (HDTune for example).
Its "enterprise-class reliability for 24x7 usage" really appeals to me, but I wan't to know how it compares to a 7200.12 drive in terms of performance.
Actually I don't need to shut down windows using the power button and I also don't mind the computer rebooting before powering off.
My biggest concern was that the motherboard might not like me connecting Power On "+" with Reset "+" and the "-" pins respectively, and I think it didn't. After a...
I was wondering if it's possible to use a single power switch (one typically found in any computer case) for both reset and power on. The idea is to connect both GND's at one end of the switch and the two "+" pins to the other end. Therefore a single press would reboot and holding for 4 seconds...
Yes, that's a great idea, but since I'm a beginner at painting I don't want to risk ruining my cage. I went through hell and back to get it :)
I'm going to use Satin and see how it looks. If I'm not happy I'll just re-paint.
Can anyone tell me, or better yet show me what's the difference between satin and gloss? More specifically Krylon Fusion for plastic spray paint.
I'm trying to paint my Antec NSK 6000/6500 front panel to match an Antec 1200 drive cage. The front mesh of the cage is a little shiny, but I can't...