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It's pretty damn odd for HardOCP not to also mention the HD 7870, which can be had for $215 after rebate. The HD 7870 generally outperforms the GTX 660. It also comes with the Never Settle 2 bundle. So thumbs down for too narrow of a scope on this review. The HD 7870 + Never Settle 2 is easily...

It always comes off as sensitive and insecure when the cult mentality kicks into insecurity mode and goes on the defensive. There is absolutely nothing wrong nor should there be any shame in discussing methodology. The best science comes from those that are willing to do so and that don't reject...

The Carbide 200r that was recommended in the conclusion is $60. Good cases can absolutely be had for $60. The lower cost usually means cheaper materials and fewer features, bells, and whistles, but it's does not automatically mean "piece of shit".

I love seeing that "FAIL" badge at the end. It is not because I want to see a product do bad, but it's because I want to see people willing to call a fail a fail rather than calling it a "6 out of 10". I have to say, I'm not in the typical [H] target audience. When I saw the question "Hasn't...

I love these cards for their computational power, and their staggeringly low-power draw "zero core" mode! Unlike the Phenoms, the Radeons keep getting better and better.

I see. If you format the drive and leave some capacity unformatted does the unformatted space work as spare area? I thought even free partitioned space was used as spare area of sorts. In light of scathing reviews I'd switch over the the Crucial M4 anyway, but I'm still curious about whether a...

Understandably there can only be so many drives thrown in the review, but it's still fair and important to consider others that weren't in the review. You can get the 256 GB ADATA Premier Pro for $175, comes with a drive sled and with Acronis...

There are two types of Intel virtualization technologies (AMD as well, but this is about an Intel platform product so I'll stick to that). VT-d and VT-x. As far as I can tell, virtualization support is dependent upon the processor - not the motherboard. Intel usually completely omits...

MSI has always seemed like a roll of the dice to me. If I want good I go Asus. If I want cheap I go Asus or Gigabyte.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/23/apple-s-deal-with-the-devil.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2012/01/23/apple-s-deal-with-the-devil/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage.img.jpg/1327332729224.jpg If I'm not mistaken that's the GTX 480 featured in that...

Wow, this review is pointless. Not even a stock version of a GTX 580 thrown in for comparison? Not one single other card represented in this review? Pointless. At least put one single other card in the review for comparison's sake. Posting this review the way it is just reflects poorly on [H].

Bah! Deleted. I'm struggling with reading this morning!

That is an impressive product. Too bad about the PowerTune problem. I suppose flashing the BIOS is easy enough though.

LOL, well played.

OK, so the goal here is to provide cooling (well, provide the potential for cooling since dumb shits at Asus didn't provide a fan) for something that doesn't need cooling? What's next? Can I get some thermal armor for my, uh, my driveway? I could use some additional cooling on that mofo...

Gotta agree with this. If you're running high end Trifire / TriSli then you need to have the high end X58 to match - i7 980 X overclocked to the max or bust on a mobo with all the PCIe lanes necessary without help from NF 200.

Wow, you could say I'm surprised. Kingwin... wow. I had a Kingwin case once that was actually very nice, but over time I had concluded that it was an anomaly in Kingwin's product portfolio that otherwise consisted of "value" oriented products. So either I concluded wrong or Kingwin has had a...

If I remember correctly, in that situation you would only get 1GB of actual frame buffer, since with crossfire and sli the framebuffer has to be mirrored to both cards. So the smaller buffer would govern, and then it's content would be mirrored to the larger buffer, so the frame buffer size...

Not so fast: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121418 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121401

Seems a little obvious, but: GTX 570 = $350 GTX 470 = $250 (plus or minus) HD 6870 = $230 (plus or minus) I.e. the GTX 570 and the HD 6870 are serving very, very different market segments, i.e. they are not competitors, i.e. there's not much point in directly comparing them.

As long as "always" means "ever since the G80" I had the 7600GT and the 7900GS and both of them had that incredibly crappy little cooler on them that got extremely loud during game play.

According to everything I've seen, that's a falsehood. The GTX 480 and 470 have seen substantial performance improvements from driver releases since launch. Nvidia works with devs to get them to include Nvidia-specific features and perhaps sometimes to remove advantages for Radeons, but the...

may I suggest: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 Has a kick ass heatsink and comes overclocked by 45 MHz The 6850 is a better choice than the 5850. It has better tessellation, near perfect scaling in SLI, and seems to overclock quite well.

Excellent conclusion! I have never seen that [H]ard Fail before. Good job putting Cooler Master's feet to the fire. Hopefully they are appropriately ashamed and yank these units off the shelf immediately. If not, the maybe [H] could continue to warn the enthusiast community away from these...

"18% cooler"? 0C is quite the arbitrary bottom point. 0K would be much more scientific. The real truth is that given the nature of temperature, it is just plain daft to talk in percentages. But don't let that stop you. Thanks for the review though. The Asus coolers do seem to be nice. If I...

Boards like these just aren't sensible even for the enthusiast. 2x PCIe2.0 x16 isn't anything over 2x PCIe2.0 x8. Overclocking isn't much better than on a cheaper board. If there was something worth paying for, fine, but there just is not. I'd rather go with the HardOCP Gold Editor's...

Yeah! 3 30" panels and some GTX 480 SLI - all to play games? Far be it from me to tell a rich fella how to spend money, but if I had that much money to spend, I couldn't be bothered to spend it that way. For one, there aren't any games out there that are so much fun that it'd be worth the...

AMD is aiming the 5770 at the 450 whether Nvidia likes it or not. And overclocking cards to bench them is not exactly a bad idea, but I don't really like seeing too much emphasis placed on it. =========== The results of this article took me by complete surprise! Who'd have thought that...

There's feature "upgrade" and performance upgrade. You could argue a 5450 is a "good upgrade" from a GTX 260 because it has DX 11. Of course, such a statement is excessively silly. No "gamer" out there would consider a 5770 a "good upgrade" from a GTX 260. List all the features you want, but...

Not to be rude, but... Calling any 5770 a decent upgrade from a GTX 260 is plain daft and absurd. It is just plain shocking that those kind of statements are so lightly thrown around at such a high profile website. It's irresponsible.

Thanks for the review. Two nit-pics. First, why is 0 C the reference point? Isn't 0 C is ultimately arbitrary? Do you think it would be more telling and useful to calibrate the baseline temp to ambient and then graph the rise over ambient? That seems much less arbitrary to me, but perhaps...

Not very exciting. All that custom hardware, plus the $100 additional, and it's 2 or 3 frames per second - less than 10% - faster.... LOL, no sale. fausto412, a 5870 for 1680x1050? Why? That's like making a grown man sleep on a toddler bed. Thanks for the review Kyle. GPU market is...

I'm sill ambivalent about the review itself. On the one hand, I'd want to see cards included that are similar price / performance, regardless of DX11. On the other hand, who want to buy DX10 cards at this point? The real problem isn't the review, the real problem is that Nvidia is not even on...

There's "slower per clock" and "slower product". The 5000 series seems, as far as I'm concerned, to be conclusively slower per clock PER SHADER CORE, but that doesn't mean slower product, necessarily, because, at least for the 5870 and 5850 there are enough additional shader core to more than...

It's a curious couple of choices (and why DX9? do those game not run DX10?), but whatev.

Because it is literally a slower architecture per clock cycle: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3734&p=15 paragraphs 6, 7, 8

Why should I try to make a point when you'd never be able to grasp it ;)

Yes, and the funny part is that you'd be the only one to think you'd be making some kind of point:D

LOL, nice post Kyle. I suppose that is a small consolation. Others show the 5830 consistently getting beat by the 4890 though, so its not a clean victory. But, again, nice post!

Again: Maybe there is one, but I cannot think of one - can anyone think of a card, other than the 5830, that, when launched, provided LESS performance while COSTING MORE than an existing card?