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AFAIK, ًSLI motherboards are widely available.

The 9800GT will also be released.

Is it a good idea to build now? I mean...in two weeks, the next generation video cards (GTX 280 and HD4870) will be released. Also within this month, Intel's new mainstream chipset (P45) should be available.

0% difference. And yes, you should have listened...

A few suggestions: CPU: $55 - Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor E2180 HSF: Stock. 3-3.2GHz is easily doable with stock cooling, and an aftermarket HSF most probably won't help increase the OC. MOBO: $80 (5%OFF) ($20MIR) - EVGA LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce e-7150/630i HDMI Micro ATX Intel...

LOL. Reminds me of the XFX alpha dog drooling over E-VGA.

You're welcome. MOBO: Take the fan off. Buy an aftermarket heatsink. Work your mind a little... Video Card:: So you are buying the Sapphire 3470 over the Sapphire 3450 because the 3470 has better newegg reviews?! Go ahead :rolleyes:

$130 ($30MIR) - MSI P6N Diamond LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail (4X) $43 ($15MIR) - SAPPHIRE 100234L Radeon HD 3450 512MB 64-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail Couldn't have been easier :rolleyes:

Yup, lol.

Sooo: Q6600 and E8400 are a waste of money, as current games don't need anything over a $60 E2180 overclocked to 3.2GHz. X38 is a a waste of money. No SLI. No extra overclockability. No extra performance. No extra longetivity. No need for the excess amount of ports... 4GB RAM is a waste of...

Skulltrail is NOT a waste of money as long as you don't buy two QX9775. For example, look at this build I made a few months ago: You OC the CPU from 333*7=2333 to 400*7=2800. The motherboard allows it. The RAM allows it. I see no problem here. And 8*2.8>4*3.6 The budget for the four...

Kidfinger You were comparing the 9800GTX vs 8800GT, not GTS. Big mistake... http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=559&card2=548 25MHz faster clock core (4% increase)? WOW... 63MHz faster shaders (4% increase)? OMFG!! 130MHz faster RAM (13% increase)? FUCK Hybrid power? Who...

Nevermind...

Drop to 8800GTS. The 9800GTX is nothing but an 8800GTS with RAM OC'd by 20% and GPU by 10%.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM5MywxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

The best bang for buck CPU is this: http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/85-21512-2657/CPU_Intel_SL4TF_Celeron_800MHz.html But seriously, you guys need to look at it from another perspective. You are spending say $1000 on a computer. Most of of your daily operations depend on CPU performance, so...

The 9800GTX is nothing but an 8800GTS overclocked from 650/1625/970 to 675/1688/1100 (core/shader/RAM). If you want something high-end, I'd say wait for the new cards from ATI and Nvidia. All Intel motherboards (except the D5400XS) only support crossfire not SLI. This means you will not...

A stock Q6600 is faster than a stock 9850. Look through the links I've posted.

No. Both CPUs will be able to maintain 60+ FPS (which is the monitor's refresh rate) in all the games I am aware of. If a slow down is noticed then it is most definately the video card or lack of RAM. Of the two however, I would take the Q6600...cheaper, faster, overclocks better, less power...

First off, thanks for your post. I don't think the OP will be installing 45nm CPUs, because his next upgrade from the Q6600 will most likely be at the time Nehalem arrives. However, you mentioned that the 680i LT is not a good quad-core overclocker, despite various reports of it exceeding...

Case/PSU: $105 - Antec Sonata III Super Mini-Tower w/ Earthwatts 500w Power Supply - SONATA III CPU/HSF: I'd rather go for a $134 E7200 with stock cooling rather than buy an E2180 with a high-end HSF. It will also reach a higher threshold in overclocking and performs better per clock...

As I said, the 9600GT is an 8800GT with less shaders. Unlike the overclocked Palit, a stock 9600GT cannot maintain the "high" shaders setting in Crysis, which makes a HUUUGE difference in image quality...

If you mean stability issues: http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1031829333&postcount=8

How about this build: $300 - XFX nForce 680i LT SLI Motherboard CPU Bundle - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor 2.40GHz OEM $37 - XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail $63 (EMCAFAJAG) - A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory -...

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ3NSwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

There are a lot of factors determining the overall performance of video cards other than clock speed and size of VRAM (e.g. shader count, bus width, ROP's...etc), and in many cases they are misleading. For example, a 2900XT with 320 shader processors and 512-bit bus width is outperformed by an...

The OP will notice zero difference upgrading the RAM, CPU, PSU or motherboard. He will only notice a difference in his gaming performance once he chooses a better video card.

TBH, you will not* notice any improvement doing these upgrades. You are better off overclocking your Q6600 using a high end cooler (Xigmatek S-1283) and replacing your 9800GTX with a 9800GX2.

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My bad. There was a case in the cart.

Provantage charges $25 for shipping, which kills the deal. I'd rather buy the PSU from buy.com for almost the same price but with free shipping

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=7

Just a few suggestions: Case/PSU: $105 (free shipping) - Antec Sonata III Super Mini-Tower w/ Earthwatts 500w Power Supply - SONATA III Video Card: $73 ($30MIR) (FS) - EVGA e-GeForce 8600 GT 256 MB PCI-Express 256-P2-N751-TR Graphics Card $130 ($30MIR) (FS) - XFX PVT88SFDF4 GeForce 8800GS...

Nevermind. It's not for gaming.

Pentium dual core is leaps and bounds ahead of P4. To put them in comparison, you will need to overclock your P4 EE to 5GHz to match the stock speed of one of the two cores of an E2180, which can be overclocked by a 10 year old from 2GHz to 3GHz minimum...

http://www.buy.com/retail/Product.asp?sku=202486320

Again I'm already aware of that, and I don't see how it relates to my statement. C2D doesn't benefit from anything higher than DDR2-533, but needs higher frequency RAM to run at stock and to allow for overclocks. I just used the "you can unlink the RAM frequency without performance penalties"...

I believe I already know that Intel chipsets don't allow unlinking. It's just that you guys make it sound like C2D benefits from running the RAM at its bus speed, but not over it. The truth is that it doesn't benefit at all by running over DDR2-533.

9800GX2 no brainer...

Your build is fine but I'd rather go with this instead, for almost the same price: INTEL, Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 Quad-Core (SLACR G0 stepping), 2.4GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB (2 x 4MB) L2 Cache, 65nm, 95W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail OCZ, Vendetta Copper CPU Cooler, Socket 754/755/775/939/AM2...