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    Ashes of the Singularity benchmarks.

    You post some strange comments :rolleyes:, you could just admit your wrong and save some face, rather than continuing on.
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    Ashes of the Singularity benchmarks.

    ummm yea ok http://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2015-08-16/ashes-gtx980.png Once again this is a RTS game, make no difference if its running 71FPS or 76FPS, its really not much of a issue. I am looking at the AMD's and I3's running at 30 and 40 FPS...
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    Ashes of the Singularity benchmarks.

    ROLF you did just look at the CPU scaling link above right?, its about as relevant as ever, this is a RTS game not a FPS! I get the Nvidia vs AMD GPU DX12 API debate thing going on, but when it comes to this game its mostly CPU that matters.
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    Ashes of the Singularity benchmarks.

    The thing that makes me laugh about this benchmark is, due to the inclusion of the DX12 API the GPU performance is getting most of the attention over the vastly more relevant CPU scaling. Its going to be FAR better having a higher end processor and a mid range GPU regardless of DX 12 or...
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    Intel i7-920 x58 vs Haswell @1080p and above - Still no urgency to upgrade?

    The games you play I would believe the answer is flat out no its not worth upgrading. Doing a quick Google at modest resolutions. If no ONE core is ever maxed you are unlikely to see a tangible benefit. http://www.techspot.com/review/733-batman-arkham-origins-benchmarks/page5.html...
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    Prime is melting my 4770k, oh the humanity. Other options?

    yea thanks, looked like spin the first time, looks like spin now.
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    Prime is melting my 4770k, oh the humanity. Other options?

    Its not safe for a 4770k on air you mean. I have a very modest Corsair H110 running a [email protected] and it can do it all day sitting a smig under 80C with around 25C room temp. I don't consider this cool, but it is very solid and worst case. Aida is rubbish, I have seen a unstable OC pass with...
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    Intel Haswell i7-4770K IPC and Overclocking Review @ [H]

    You might see a tiny bump in a handful of games depending on your gaming resolution and quality settings. http://www.techspot.com/review/689-company-of-heroes-2-performance/page4.html http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance/page6.html Note these tests are at medium quality...
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    Q8400 @ 3.2Ghz bottlenecking?

    Forgod sake Here's is a crazy idea!!!!!!!!!! Open up Task Manager, alt tab into Witcher and play for 10+ seconds, alt tab out. Are "any" of your cores maxed recently?, repeat process a few times. If not a processor upgrade is not likely to help, its not a 100% accurate methodology probably...
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    Yes Prime and Intel TAT are more intensive, and they produce slightly higher temps with decent cooling. Seems the oldies are still the best imo
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    Haswell Delidded

    Grats on the result, you seem to have a pretty good sample being able to run 4.4 at only around 1.2V Keep in mind you would have reseated your block which you technically never eliminated before the De-lid , or at least was my impression. Temps look about 3-4C lower than my undelided [email protected]...
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    At least you eliminated the ram overclock as the primary cause. Why are you hell bent on refusing to consider your cooling is the issue?, just reseat your block for a start.
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    You are over thinking it, your temps are NOT consistent with most other people on half decent liquid cooling for 4.4Ghz 1.2 volts, they are god awful. Your loop has issues or is not very good take your pick, it 95% likely one or the other, My temps are consistent with most others on mainstream...
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    Straight from Intel 11.0.5 Here's an idea, run Linpack, open Taskmanger up and confirm I am right
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    Well I ran Linpack, can't say I am a fan unless I am missing something (entirely possible). Intel TAT is even worse as it uses so much processor the mouse jitters. Now I didn't compare these very long (saw no reason to go longer) and its first thing in the morning here so ambient temps are...
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    BF4 Build - i5 or i7 ?

    Its a tad hard to comment on a game that hasn't been released yet. But BF3, nice blog http://chipreviews.com/main-feature/main-news/frostbite-2s-limit-6-core-performance-in-battlefield-3/3/ So 4770K quad or 3930K hex imo You could have a minor drop in a few poor multithreaded...
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    A small difference, I bet if you clock it down to 1600 you wont see much of a core temp drop. Do it!
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    sorry for the multiple posts guys was trying to correct a error and the page wasn't loading :P All my power saving features are off, never use them. Intel TAT gets to the mid 80's which has a rep as one of the worst if not worst CPU heat stress test. As I say my Vcore is night and day...
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    Your water cooler is doing a very poor job almost air cooling performance, my modest Corsair Hydro 110i maxes 82C running prime indefinitely & I am forced to run 4.4Ghz 1.330 vcore, a fair bit higher than you. Something not right there!
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    Microsoft To Unveil Major Restructuring Thursday

    Who EVER is responsible for windows 8 needs to be shit canned immediately!
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    Yep tried all that, the cache multi virtually has no effect, its just as happy at 44 as it is 35, seems to be all about vcore. LLC helped me get below 1.4V for 4.4Ghz, Ring voltage has little effect. Basically it doesn't respond the same way as better samples as others have also reported...
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    Overclocking i7 920

    Unless you can open up task manager or perfmon and see one of those 920 cores maxed in a game or application you use, dont do it!. I came from a OC [email protected] to a [email protected] and notice little tangible difference, well all but one game I play. Looking at your sig do your GPU first, you will...
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    4670k & 4770k purchased anwhere operating performance thread

    Well my 4770K is a long way from the top percentile :P. After spending many hours probably 20+ tweaking, revisiting guides,other posters settings and then random testing, I have reached the conclusion ALL my CPU cares about is Vcore. Around 1.36 Vcore @4.4Ghz solid as a rock, change to 1.32...
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    For those who bought Haswell. Was it what you expected?

    I confess I haven't played WOW in around 3 years years so can't comment on Cataclysm personally. Did you ever bother open up Task Manager or Perfmon to see what each core is doing or during those laggy times?, I am guessing the answer is no. If you said to me Cataclsym used to max a core...
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    For those who bought Haswell. Was it what you expected?

    I was talking about your mobo voltages/chipset not your CPU voltages, 1366 often heavily overcompensated left on Auto. A lot of overclockers turn that speed step rubbish off. I would advise turning it off for more consistent performance. If I turn my Aircon on for 2 minutes I will use more...
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    For those who bought Haswell. Was it what you expected?

    I appreciate your point of view. My 4770k is not a great OCer either, I settled on [email protected] which is ok due to decent cooling but higher vcore than many. To get to 4.5 is a real mission and not worth the added stress. WOW is not exactly CPU intensive, as its so low GPU intensive the CPU may...
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    For those who bought Haswell. Was it what you expected?

    NP, I was tying to be a little humorous in my post, incase I came off as a little crazy. I have had a little fun OC Haswell, but give it a week and the PC will be humdrum again. Yea bumping that 580 you will see a much better return for your money, I came form a 580 to a 680 and it was...
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    For those who bought Haswell. Was it what you expected?

    Just upgraded from I7 [email protected] (mostly), couldn't take the upgrade itch any more. I have been pretty vocal in this thread so thought I would offer some feed back New Rig Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC Mobo Intel Core i7 4770K [email protected] Corsair Hydro Series H110 Closed processor water cooler...
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    For those who bought Haswell. Was it what you expected?

    Fair enough and there is definitely a couple of games where it may benefit to go from OC Bloomfield and you touched on 1. The list I have so far.... 1. Supreme Commander Forged Alliance (poor multi-thread engine, can confirm it maxes one core under certain maps and AI slowing sim speed), cant...
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    Has anyone delidded Haswell yet?

    Never read back any more than 1 post, keep threads going around and around in circles!
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    For those who bought Haswell. Was it what you expected?

    Were you running your 920 as stock speeds or stupid low resolutions?. I want to upgrade but I can think of much more fun ways to spend $700+ if I don't see any real gaming gains (ie hookers). Not a lot of hard data coming from people that upgraded from OC Bloomfield/Nehalem to Haswell with real...
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    For those who bought Haswell. Was it what you expected?

    Its nice to think like this, certainly justifies the decision. If you did the math you will quickly discover your statement is not correct and the cost of the upgrade would no where near pay for itself with electricity savings, even if you kept your current platform for 5 years. On top of...
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    Intel i7-920 x58 vs Haswell @1080p and above - Still no urgency to upgrade?

    I REALLY have my doubts about GW3, what resolution are you playing in?. http://www.techspot.com/review/458-battlefield-3-performance/page7.html http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/guild-wars-2-performance-benchmark,3268-7.html Can you post a screenshot of your current CPU usage during GW3...
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    Retail 4770k from microcenter OC results

    Just like many others here you haven't stated your ambient Temps. It makes a HUGE difference if you are sitting in 33C room over a 15C room. For all we know the last time you took any notice of your 3370K it was winter and now its summer!,
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    Intel i7-920 x58 vs Haswell @1080p and above - Still no urgency to upgrade?

    Its incredibly easy to see the 920@4Ghz+ still does not bottleneck most games (as in 98%+) at medium to higher resolutions. There is only ONE game and its pretty old I still play that does have a fractional bottleneck, Supreme Commander Forged alliance. Not well multi-threaded and clearly...
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    I7 930 @ 3.8 Ghz a bottleneck for a single GTX 780?

    Yep I can believe that, it makes funny reading these people that don't understand CPU/GPU scaling. Its like the first poster is nearly always wrong with this type of question lol Once again largely not true. At a stupid low1024x768 resolutions or lower sure the [email protected] may be a bottleneck...
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    efficiency worth the upgrade cost?

    hrrrrrrr good grief of course you are technically correct, this simplified easy to understand method is still very close, you can use one of dozens of online calculators to be more accurate. Check my math http://www.citytrf.net/costs_calculator.htm type 50watts (as per the stated and we both...
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