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I'm continuing to like what I see in Rage and where it's headed. It was in my day 1 buy list and it remains there.

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Oh I've been called the "Valve hater" so many times because I've made similar points...Again, it's how it goes around here. Double Standards and drama over a graphics API or a patch process that has some problems, but only for "some" developers of course...

I'll only point you to this, since you clearly didn't read it (or chose to ignore it): http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037452797&postcount=295 I've clearly said that because I didn't have problems it doesn't mean others didn't have them. My problem is with the sensationalism in your...

Since you have a hard time reading, I'll point you directly to this: http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037452797&postcount=295 ...hmmm better post the quote directly, because you probably won't click on the link:

EA didn't pull anything...it was Valve that pulled Crysis 2 from the Steam catalog and still did not explain why officially...

And even on the retail copy they're not being experienced by everyone. It's just sensationalism with the "OMG I had problems that means ALL versions have problems" crap... The installation of the patches with a retail copy are very simple: 1) Download the patches (I downloaded them from...

I have the retail version and installed all the patches that I downloaded from geforce.com individually without reboots and had ZERO problems. Of course this doesn't mean there are no problems with the patch process. It seems there are. But the focus of the article were on the "TONS" (Steve's...

So now the contention of the "promise Crytek" made is no longer on this mystical DX11 video that was deleted...it's on NVIDIA's side, because they apparently made some sites referencing DX11 in Crysis 2... I think the X-Files music should definitely cue at any time anyone comes up with these...

I couldn't care less if it is a big bone of contention for the Crysis 2 haters, if it's based on "there was a video" with no links or "I heard someone say there was a promise" but no links... It's common practice to link to evidence of what you're saying. Just saying it, creates the burden of...

FEAR 2 bought in retail, launched Steam to install the game, so unless something changed, I would say FEAR 3 will do the same. So no, you can't avoid steam.

Not delivered ? Did you miss the first post or even the article that you say is great ?

So you're saying that the only evidence of the "promised DX11" was a youtube video ? There's no statement or something else by Crytek (the actual developer of the game, those that know what they did) to prove it...just a video that is no longer available ? LOL...ok But let's assume for a minute...

Crytek released a PC exclusive 4 years ago and got as much flak as they are getting now... Also, BF3's footsteps ? The game is not even released. Wait for it to e released, or you might be setting yourself up for a disappointment. BF3 is a multi-platform game after all. If they are going to...

So you're saying that Crysis 2 didn't have quality graphics ? Are they worse than say Portal 2 ? Or Brink ? (both games use extremely old engines - Source Engine and id Tech 4)...actually pick one multi-platform game that looks as good on all platforms, as Crysis 2. Screenshots alone are...

For f*cks sake.....they NEVER promised DX11 support in the game at launch! Stop spreading that bullshit...

Not really. BF1942 and BF2 both used an engine originally developed by another company. For BF2 specifically it was updated, when DICE bought Refraction Games and their engine Refractor. Also, Frostbite 3.0 doesn't exist. BF3 uses Frostbite 2.0,

In that case, the bitching and moaning about how with the new patches Crysis 2 can no longer be run @ 2560x1600 everything maxed and 60 fps would increase in volume. I'm imagining pitch forks and torches towards Crytek's HQ :rolleyes: First it's "OMG!11!!! Crysis 2 is teh FA1L! No high res...

Well, it's obvious some people in here just follow what others say. They have no opinion, they just choose to agree with someone else's opinion. This thread and even the review have that clear intent, much like Kyle's post when Crysis 2 was released, was what increased the uproar over Crysis 2...

Crytek NEVER promised that Crysis 2 would have DX11 support. Some people just assumed that it would and when it didn't, they bitched that Crytek lied... As for the rest, pretty much agreed on all counts. Now even installing the patches is a reason for bitching and moaning (when in reality...

Great! I'll have to try it out!

Yes, that's exactly what I did...My post has hundreds of letters/words pertaining to the current context of the discussion, but that last line alone that was used to show how hypocritical people are around here (with the double standards), defines the whole gist of my post...:rolleyes:

I already explained my take on it. And it's as simple as a large group of people here like to crap on Crytek just for the heck of it or to follow others that crapped on them before. That is easily seen by the huge amount of people with that "no DX11, I won't buy it" argument. They didn't even...

With the high-res texture pack you're already enjoying 99% of the experience. The additional 1% with DX11 enabled is barely noticeable. In fact, most of it you can only see in still images. In motion there's not much to be gained. As I described in an earlier post, the only things that are...

And this is why there are ignore lists people! /ignored

Can't comment on SLI performance since I don't have a SLI rig, but my GTX 560 Ti has no problems at all. Not a single crash, although I never had any crash in Crysis 2 (with or without the latest patches).

I won't go into multiple quotes, otherwise this will be longer than I want to be :) You mentioned ONE game that arguably looks better than Crysis 2 and I don't necessarily disagree, although it's tough to compare a game where most of the action happens underground with another where the action...

Such a sensationalist title..... Yes this sucks, but this is for the Nintendo 3DS. How is it global war on gamers ? Some people in these forums are such drama queens...

What makes a big difference in some areas, are the higher res textures. DX11 has little impact visually, unless you're really looking for details (the only thing that I notice a difference is the debris on the ground, that with DX11 enabled is more detailed, I'm guessing from Tessellation)...

Only to you. It's a pretty clear point. People criticizing any game for the lack of support for a certain graphics API is an idiot, because quite simply a GAME is not about a GRAPHICS API. Name me games already in the market that looked better than Crysis 2, when it was released (DX9 only)...

Because NVIDIA is better at DX11, they did a 3dfx ? Such a ridiculous thing to say... As for which architecture makes sense, they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but AMD itself recently said that their next architecture would be scalar (just like NVIDIA's have been, ditching VLIW)...

I don't see how you can conclude from that statement that it was supposed to be on the shipping game. They just say that they didn't have time for anything else other than to focus on a successful launch on all platforms, because this was their first multi-platform game. Only after the...

How do you come to that conclusion ? They took a little over 3 months to release this. Why do you think they had this all planned out ? All planned out means Day 1 DLC or some crap like that like Valve and others do. It's certainly not something released 3 months after the game was launched.

I can and I did, especially when some of them are the very same people. Again, go read the Crysis 2 Official Thread...especially the first 40-50 pages. When someone uses the "A game without X graphics API sucks" argument, it means one of two things: A) that person is an idiot B) it's just an...

Anyone that reads them will surely think otherwise, but ok. And yes, I would say that 40-50 pages out of 70-80 (in the next couple of days after release) of bitching about lack of DX11 support is the majority, Be my guest. I don't really care. That's what ignore lists are for.

Did I say "EVERYONE" ? http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037442470&postcount=432 Guess not...you are the one using hyperbole for the sake of your argument. But let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Calling it hyperbole won't change the fact that the thread exists and people can check it out and confirm what I'm saying.

Right :rolleyes: Have a look at the Crysis 2 Official Thread and the first 40-50 pages filled with "Crysis 2 sucks because it doesn't support DX11" and then tell me that that wasn't the main argument for the hate. Have a look at a similar thread in the News section as well, with a similar...

I liked the levels in Crysis 1 better. I prefer to have more options to accomplish an objective and not just that one door that will lead me into another action set piece. Still, that sort of "freedom" lost in Crysis 2 was not a deal breaker for me, especially since I liked the idea of playing...

Maybe reading the OP's link would help... http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/06/24/update-on-brink-dlc-title-updates-and-new-screenshots/ For the lazy: