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well comes down to the same thing, if you have a product that sells at certain price, why would you want to (ruin your sales and) lower prices from business point of view. and with one out of 2 (3) d-gpu chip makers, they dont worry about "keeping" customers.

Ranulfo there is no connection between the cost of one hw part, and the cost of another, no matter how often you compare it. every "computer" needs a cpu to work, while not true for dgpu. ignoring that most companies exist to make money, not to please buyers with the latest and biggest hw for...

cant talk about the dev/sw side of things, but with pricing Nv and amd, its like with everything else in a capitalistic world: the maker/seller determines what specs a product has, and what its (msrp) price is. ppl need to buy with what their wallet allows, and stop fixating on getting a...

lol, next time add "sarcasm mode: on", for old folks like me :D yeah, personally dont care about it as long as there is no motion stutter when camera is panning, and why i stopped watching many drone videos running stock settings (shutter speed/motion rate wrong).

Marees graphic quality doesn't really have much to do with fps/refresh rates, 24/25 were mainly to have more film to shoot on (vs 50/60), one reason why 70mm imax stuff is limited ~45-60 min, as rolls get too large @70mm negatives

dang, was so "focused" on giving advice, overlooked you got ddr 5, which needs a little different setup..

True, but to me its based on what it can do. as long as its not working in both "ways" (e.g. can provide heat+cool air), its an AC, if it does its a heat pump, the same way ppl dont (use the technically proper language and) ask if you removed the heat from car/house/drink, but say "is it cold"...

lol, yeah, said that earlier as a joke, but short of that, no real room heating with standard AC, and definitely more power waste than using a room heater.

they dont produce heat, for heating the room, unless they have an added heater or heat pump.

@travm lol, they arent. heatpumps can work both ways (producing cold or hot air inside), ACs will produce cold air only, unless they have an added heat pump. OFaceSIG naah, meant that ppl confuse one system (cooler), to be heat pumps.

@OFaceSIG i can mount an ac the opposite way (release the heat inside while cooling outside air), still doesnt mean its a heat pump or works like one, and i can have a heat pump in the ground, with no AC installed whatsoever. might wanna read up on stuff before posting ..

Marees nope, the forum is a place to exchange information for ppl with problems/solutions/tips, and not to show how ppl with ancient hw won't get the full perf out of a certain product. thats YOUR verdict, nothing more. of the almost 2B gamers (read: steam isnt the source), +50% are running...

@Marees which is an issue with users and their setup, not the card. or is the card 3.0? right. again, its irrelevant, the same way its useless someone testing the latest 2 door supercar and says its performing bad using the suspension/brakes/wheels from previous models. its up to the ppl...

@Marees and really irrelevant for the product itself. running a pc that still uses pcie 2.0, will have a serious cpu bottleneck anyway (from some rare exceptions (server/multi socket etc), besides, anyone spending more than 300$ on a gpu for a rig without pcie 3.0, deserves it.

@Shadowarez not really, most name brands have them, and if not, i had no trouble securing industrial units (wanted 1/2in ID) thru yellow pages, and that was back in 2006 when most didnt have online shops and/or "end consumer" shipping, and nothing really offered on places like Ali/Bang/Ama.

Shadowarez probably has more to do with the itx part, then the cooler. unless this has changed, most AIO (especially Asetek based units) dont have a flat block, main reason why a lot of delids are using loops and not AIOs..

since i havent been as active here as on other platforms, ill say it before ppl start reading between the lines: in no way do i find gpu tiers/pricing acceptable. that said, many (incl here), need to stop buying model nbrs (e.g. xx70/xx80/xx90), and treat it like every other purchase: buy what...

except a lot of countries allow for "lower" spec, if the cable is labeled "for temporary use", incl those rolled up, and even in more regulated places like germany. i bet, spending a day at a home improvement/electronics store, you will see less than 10% of the end consumer walking out the door...

Lakados its like saying every car needs a 50 gal tank, so you can drive from one side of the country to the other, without refilling, while thats not the case for +50% of car buyers, so why should they do it? vram use depends largely on the res used and games played. my 2080S with 8gb is fine...

funny how many here are ignoring that we dont even know if OP has to pay for power. as long as that's not the case, its irrelevant if an electric heater is used. hu76 if you still need one, get something that use convection rather than the oil filled heaters. this or this Tsumi unless i...

While i cant talk about the LC II or II, never had any issues with any cooler from Arctic in +20y of using them. anytime mounting requires to remove the oem mount to be removed (reusing backplate), i tend to put some fabric tape over it to secure it in place, until the block is mounted.

not really. besides that for ryzen its usually best to apply clocks/main timings/volt manually, most amds kits cant do xmp numbers like they can on intel, e.g. 3600 kit like mine is XMP 14-16-16-16, but the AMP profile is 14-22-22-22, and when looking at anything above 3800 with 1:1 ratio, its...

pendragon1 lol, had to edit it, as it was flawed, as your post showed. was more meant as in doing something stupid.

GoldenTiger because its not disabled by default. not even every gamer uses it nothing needs it be enabled, to work, outside gfe features.

guess some forget, we purchased a gpu, not "this-is-just-for-gaming" gpu. and ppl even state there is stuff a gpu can do besides gaming, but seem to be fine if all those features/their settings all have to be combined in a gaming app. gpu means graphics processing unit, not game processing...

freeagentt lol, wut? xmp is a profile, what has that to do with "slow"?

@learners permit easy: boost clocks are usually limited by power/voltage and temps, running the card on water allows for higher boost clocks, and with chip variance, you might have one that likes to boost higher (without adding V)..

Strange bird its fine, as you clearly dont understand the basics, as 3600 at cl 18 is still better than any lower speed with lower cl. ignoring you most likely are gpu "bottlenecked", as many of gamers are, and probably didnt even care to tweak and tune your gpu, wasting gains of easily 5-10%...

Strange bird without detailed info (e.g. ram-die) its not easy to tell if it can do 1800, as you want IF:ram ratio to be 1:1. 5000 series can always do 1800 on IF, so its really about having a certified kit (AMP 3600), or known (samsung) b-die (or equivalent) basically anything that does...

nothing we talked about is for cpu/pbo, unless stated, its for ram/bus settings. your ocing the cpu with pbo to gain 1-5%, if your lucky, while wasting ~5-10% on sub-optimal ram/IF clocks that affect EVERYTHING, not just cpu speed, and more important will produce bigger gains for memory/bus...

if you can, swap with a 3600C16 maybe C18 kit. much better overall, then any pbo oc will get you.

pendragon1 yeah, expected, wanna see what OP gets @ 3200

infinity fabric aka bus connecting everything. this should be run at 1800 mhz and 1:1 setting for IF:mem clk (so ram runs 3600) for max throughput. the drop going below that speed is nothing any oc will make up for, especially if looking at ram R/W. do a aida64 memory&cache bench and compare...

running ryzen below 1800/3600 on IF/ram is usually the biggest perf drop, not much what you get from pbo, ignoring that your still running the bus below its optimal clock, slowing down everything that your doing on the pc..

pendragon1 worth finding out what die it is, and look for improvement (clock vs timings), as gains can be significant. eg. i can easily do 16-16-16-16-32-48/16@1T, 320 RFC while using 1.35, and get much better perf than stock XMP/AMP profile (14-16-16-36-52/40) @1.45v

scoobert little cheaper. any coil whine is mostly hig fps, capping should fix it. worst case clear coat of nail polish over the coils seems to be the best DIY solution.. :D sapphire Asrock pavel have bought a few cards from Amazon warehouse (directly), try to look for open box/like new...

sure, ment it more regarding stuff they dont have anything to do with (job/position wise).

Strange bird havent seen much benefit for the avg pbo user to use scalar of x4, +50 maybe 100mhz, and unless you have actually stability tested, i would go further than -5 for all cores, not sure if there is a big diff on that vs me using 5800/5950. set pbo to enabled (auto = disabled), with...

Anyone asking about asking access for something they dont already have, is usually not for proper stuff. When i was temp. covering IT in large gov store, anytime anything close to not being kosher, i replied "let me just check with OPS mng.." Never gotten a follow up mssg, asking why they didnt...

psy81 using things like AMP profile or DOCP (and what other brands name it), is considered ocing (ram/bus). so far, using ryzen its better to manually set clocks/voltages/main timings (according to ram spec), and not those auto modes. @owcraftsman most XMP profiles will not work good on amd...