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    32 core Ryzen for Zen 6?

    Wnat 12-16 Big homogenous cores on a single CCX withion a single CCD. Zen 6 I sure hope has it. Cause yeah software scheduling with hybrid still quirks!!
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    How well does Intel thread director work for P and E cores on hybrid CPUs with WIN10 and WIN11 for gaming and apps

    Thanks for the advice. Stating you would prefer 12-16 big cores on a single ring/CCX/tile but not happening anytime soon on desktop like you stated. In such case do you think for thread heavy games Intel hybrid design with all P and e cores on same ring/tile is better than AMD's more than 8 Big...
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    How well does Intel thread director work for P and E cores on hybrid CPUs with WIN10 and WIN11 for gaming and apps

    Is the Intel Thread director supposed to work seamlessly and make e-cores work well with all secondary threads in games so they work just as well if not better than if there were additional but less P cores. Like if a game thread beyond 8 (HT off) would use 10-30% intermittently of an additional...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Do you water cool or air cool Raptor Lake. Which one do you own and what RAM. What are your max temps? Just a gut feeling but trying to air cool these things is probably a bad idea. And probably best to keep temps 65C or lower at all times under full load with an excellent water cooler. Which...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Not so sure on Intel fixing it with micro code update with 13th Gen. I have even manually underclocked and had slight undervolt and differnet voltages applied with a 13700K and styill experienced weirdness issues anb instability at even enough voltage. Yes I think it is a blip and they will move...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    At least the CPU was killed right away and you can RMA or return it then correct the SOC to be lower with a new CPU. With Intel CPUs, they may work then BSODs or WHEAs down the road and wonder WTF is going on. Well degradation and random errors and who knows what voltage if nay actually fixes...
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    Long Boot Time for AM5 Normal?

    Yes its normal due to memory training on bootup. You can enable Memory Context restore and it will speed it up. However I leave it disabled as I use XMP and conservative (my own less aggressive higher numbers based on Buildzoids ones so not full blast with Buildzoid but use them as guideline)...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    It can be an issue if game threads do cross CCDs. Fortunately they usually do not thus your statement that dual CCD CPUs are still great for gaming. But when they do a bnig dip in 0.1% and 1% lows in most games which is not good., Though why doesn't AMD have more than 8 core son a CCD as any...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Is there really advantage of more cache on 7900X vs 7700X mean anything when the only reason the 7900X has more cache is because it has 2 CCDs vs one but each has same amount of cache. I mean any advantage of more cache only because of an extra CCD?
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Which games marginally benefit form more than 8 cores? Would it be Cyberpunk Spiderman Remastered and its addons like Miles Morales and The Last of Us Part 1 and Starfield and Dragons Dogma 2 be such examples of games that may marginally benefit form more than 8 cores?
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Thats only because the 8 P cores without the e-cores clock higher because of more thermal headroom. 12 P cores all would clock lower to compensate in all core workloads and have similar power draw. Its like all cores on 7950X clock lower than all cores on 7900X because there are more of them...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    1% and 0.1 lows tank because of it. I mean look at benchmarks and see how 7700X outperformed 7900X and 7950X because of dual CCD issues in early Zen 4 benchmarks Intel could have 10-12 P cores no problem as 1 P core is similar in power to 4 e-core cluster. Though their 10nm node is absolute...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Yeah that link is about overclocking degradation, but it seems Intel is more affected than AMD. Have AMD Zen 4 users experienced it and if so as fast as Intel users. And Any Zen 3 or Zen 4 degradation from just curve optimizer? Or only sttaic OC and PBO and if so how fast. I have heard reports...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Its got dual CCDs so cross CCD latency penalty which is not good in all situations and need to use stupid XBOX Game bar.. Why oh why is there no CPU with more than 8 P cores on a single ring/CCD? Well there is the 10900K with 10 cores on a single ring, but that is old architecture Comet Lake...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Bingo after trying so many 13th and 14th Gen CPUs, they have degradation and stability issues. You absolutely need a 2 DIMM board and please no Asus for faster than 6000 RAM and if even that. AMD is more stable and better and uses much less power thus much less heat dumped into the case and...
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    How many CPU cores are you running for gaming?

    Yeah why did Intel intend to fuse it off. What is worng with just leaving AVX512 as an option for those who disable e-cores as it works without them. And it can just be disabled automatically when e-cores are on at stock. Any reason other than Intel just being greedy and wanting you to pay up...
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    How many CPU cores are you running for gaming?

    Yes they did 10th Gen Comet Lake the 10900K and 10850K all on a single ring bus. And it had its own die I believe where as the 10700K and below had a single die with lower SKUs and parts disabled I think? Shame they do not have something current gen like that. And that was a great CPU and even...
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    How many CPU cores are you running for gaming?

    I do not think that was the reason at all for only 8 cores on Rocket Lake. It was because of Intel 10nm process and yield problems and they had to backport desktop Rocket Lake to 14nm and the new arch had less space on the less dense 14nm thus only room for 8 full performance cores. A shame to...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Yes thats all true though for some reason starting with Zen 3 and continuing with Zen 4, the 8 core CCDs either have 8 full cores enabled or 2 disabled for 6. There are no parts with more than 2 cores disabled. If they had 16 core CCDs, how many could be disabled on the yields. If not enough...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    I would agree no need for 16 core CCD. Though we should have more than cores on a CCD or ring bus. I mean Intel did it with Comet Lake and they had 10 cores last Homogeneous CPU to have more than 8 cores om a single ring or CCD. 10-12 core CCDs would be great and perfect. While 8 cores is...
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    Is it true that 7950X3D suffers from stutter on games?

    Not even need 16 core CCD. How about one with more than 8 cores. How about 10-12 core CCDs and AMD then can just sell 10-12 core CPUs and then the dual CCD ones will be the 20-24 core parts. I mean why not advance in that way if they have the die size now.
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    14900KS coming with new boards same 1700 socket TechYES video

    I agree with much of that point. AMD charges as if they are superior in all spaces. Reality is even 12th Gen clock normalized has a slight IPC edge over Zen 4 by like maybe 3%. But Intel does have higher power draw and max 8 P cores. But AMD also only has 8 P cores om one die, though you can get...
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    How many CPU cores are you running for gaming?

    Yes and its a shame neither Intel or AMD have more than 8 homogeneous cores on modern arch on a single die/ring bus/CCD on modern archs. It puts me between a rock and a hard place as I would like such CPU but stuck with 8 cores. The scheduling issues are real and its like pick your poison or...
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    ryzen 5000 real consumption?

    All else being equal. Though differnet CPU archiectures have differnet power requirements. Like Intel latest gen CPUs despite being a little faster do use more power on average. So a 6/12 Intel chip even with e-cores off could use as much as an 8/16 as last 2 gen Ryzen chips. Though Intel...
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    Yes I have heard Asus cards in Asus boards have terrible coil whine both 3000 and 4000 series. The reports of no coil whine RTX 4090s were with Asus mobos, but non Asus 4090s including even some MSI cards. But the non Asus 4090s were in Asus motherboards at least that's what lots of people have...
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    Well these cards all had too much. I had a Gigabyte Gaming OC 3090 TYi that had very faint to almost none. It was more like a slight quiet change of the pitch in dead air when under full load rather than an annoying buzzing/whine/humming that all 4090s I tried had. I expect a 4090 with no worse...
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    I just got an eVGA SuperNOVA 1600 T2. Those Leadex based Super Flower PSUs of which the eVGA SuperNOVA G2, P2, and T2 are based on are outstanding as yours is as well. The T2 in paryticular per reviews has best ripple suppression. It's a shame they are out of production now as they were some of...
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    Sounds like my luck. Every darn 4090 I have tried has too much coil whining buzzing and I have tried 6 of them including FE, 2 Gaming OC, an Aorus Master, and 2 PNY XLR8s. What kind of motherboard and power supply do you have and did you use direct connect 12vhpwr cable or included adapter?
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    And are you still using the same motherboard and PSU in your signature? Trying to gather as much data as I can for an RTX 4090 coil whine free gaming system.
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    Are your case fans quiet and no coil whine at all even if you out your ear close to the card when it is under a tough gaming 100% load??
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    Interesting though I have been told and it would make sense that it is very unlikely that motherboard would have anything to do with coil whine on a GPU and it would more be the power supply if anything, Well I could not go to Asus motherboard if I want to stick with DDR5 (2 X 16GB) 6000 to...
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    Not much now, but more for the future without having to build again in a year or 2. If I was to stay DDR4, miswell stayed with a 12th gen 12700K.
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    Another Asus user with good report for coil whine on RTX 4090 and this is under load you hear no whine at all as that is what counts. I had an Asus Tuf Z690. Then when Raptor Lake dropped and hearing of DDR5 RAM improvements and my parents a surprise gift of new car contribution money, I decided...
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    What kind of motherboard, CPU and power supply?
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    Coil Whine on Nvidia 4090 and 4080 cards

    I have been looking so hard for a coil whine free RTX 4090. I have tried 4 different cards. 2 Gigabyte Gaming OCs, a PNY XLR8 and a Gigabyte Aorus Master. All unfortunately have too much coil whine like buzz during a high end AAA game even at only 80 to 120 FPS. Not insanely bad, but...
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    Will Zen 4 be the real deal and a worthy upgrade from Zen 3

    Well yeah 5000 series CPUs were significantly better than 3000. And yeah they released 58003DX to respond to Intel. But why so soon to release 3D VCACHE on Ryzen 7000? Perhaps is Ryzen 7000 regular non-VCACHE CPUs going to be released within a month and ahead of schedule to get lots of sales...
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    Will Zen 4 be the real deal and a worthy upgrade from Zen 3

    https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000-raphael-x-zen-4-v-cache-desktop-cpu-launch-late-2022-confirmed/ AMD appears they are going to release Raphael-X CPUs with the 3D V-CACHE in November or December 2022. That tells me IPC and overall performance uplift is likely to be underwhelming compared to...
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    Will Zen 4 be the real deal and a worthy upgrade from Zen 3

    Don't you mean after Athlon 64 K8 days? Athlon 64 K8 was spanking Intel starting late 2003 until July 2006 when Intel dropped the superior Conroe and rest was history for AMD until AMD came out with Zen 2 which made parity with Intel Coffee Lake clock for clock and had higher core counts and was...
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    Will Zen 4 be the real deal and a worthy upgrade from Zen 3

    Yeah I agree. I buy based on cores and not SMT/HT. In fact I turn that off as I like real cores/threads. With 12 real cores, that is plenty for gaming and in fact overkill. but overkill in a good way as games start to scale with more cores. 16 cores is probably more than overkill for gaming and...
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    Will Zen 4 be the real deal and a worthy upgrade from Zen 3

    Heck yes it is. AMD has done am impressive job indeed and really right now only option I look at it as Intel is not so good beyond 8 cores as they cannot get more and I do not at all care for the hybrid arch and e core latency is horrible. With AMD you can get more than 8 p cores. Its quite a...
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