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  1. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    A few big questions still remain that would potentially be huge gains over the 900C, beyond the 900D already supposedly adding detail to 4k via AI that the 900c lacks, and potentially being 20 to 30% brighter (not crazy that it might be somewhat brighter than the 900c, though it might be less...
  2. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    Might depend on your expectations, and your usage scenario needs in regard to the 900D. As you know from following the AVSforum thread, the owners there said the 900D's AI upscaling upscales 1080p material with appreciable detail increase, also some word on gaming. Still no word on the...
  3. elvn

    LG 48CX

    I think it's the "slim looks sexy" thing , like apple stuff and some misc manufacturer slim design gaming laptops that end up throttling their gpu more. I'd rather have rugged and functional.
  4. elvn

    LG 48CX

    Idk why they all insist on the slim form factor. I'd prefer a thicker chasis with vented grilles, full backplane heatsink and some active cooling fans with profiles like a rugged laptop or a gpu. . . . . Maybe you could at least avoid those dips by manually adjusting the brightness peaks...
  5. elvn

    LG 48CX

    Larger (perceived) pixel sizes, larger problems. Like viewing 4k at sub-60 PPD viewing distances, or 1440p native screens. In regard to asbl I agree that options should be given, (even if they would void warranties)
  6. elvn

    LG 48CX

    I'd also remind that a lot of people were shoe-horning oversized gaming tvs directly onto a desk, so the pixel sizes were larger to their perspective, exacerbating the text fringing, (and aliasing of anything else though text-ss mapping applied to non-rgb layouts is the worst offender). So...
  7. elvn

    LG 48CX

    It was avoidable with ASBL disabled but the problem with that scene was that it was graded too dark, below 1 to 2 nit. HDTVtest did a whole episode about it showing that it was graded bad for all tvs. " A peak of 1 to 2 nits is too dark for severeral reasons: 1. The recommended...
  8. elvn

    LG 48CX

    I swap the letters sometimes too, but it's AS automatic static.. ASS brightness limiter helps me to remember the acronym. https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/lg-oled-tvs-just-got-201653540.html "The type of auto-dimming that causes this issue in LG OLED TVs is referred to as Auto Static...
  9. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    You are probably talking about ABL slapping you in the face where he was specifically talking about the gradual step down in brightness that ASBL does. ASBL has been defeatable in some oled models using the service menu, but I never bothered to do it since it doesn't really bother me in media...
  10. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    I guess for those times you are standing in line picking your ass it could be annoying. Lol. just joking around, that's what the character in the Hawaiian shirt was doing. I get it, they all have their tradeoffs. I don't mind leaving that on personally. It would make desktop/app use...
  11. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    Perceived size is relative to viewing distance. A 32" 8k filling your central 60 to 50 degree viewing angle looks perceptually the same size and pixel density, width to your perspective as a larger 8k at 60 to 50 degree viewing angle. The difference is how much space is between you and the...
  12. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    I'll concede that. Perhaps I should have said not AS visible, (and to me not AS obnoxious) at the same frame rates as an OLED. But like I said, I'm not opposed to using some interplolation for movies and shows, (the newest AI upscaling, interpolation, and parameter shaping chips and...
  13. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    Agree. I like AI upscaling where purists like the softened 35mm filmic look too. I also don't dislike interpolation in itself at some levels, other than the fact that historically it has produced motion artifacts in complex scenes where the camera is moving through detailed/noisy areas...
  14. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    OLED stutters in movies, ironically because it's response time is so superior. Movies are low frame rate. LCD transitions are so slushy that it's not (EDIT:) AS visible, not stuttering AS much at the same frame low rates as compared to OLED. OLED requires some interpolation~processing to be...
  15. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    Why would you, or someone in general, use a modern FALD LCD as their gaming rig's display? Mostly for a few reasons I'd think. . . One is that OLED have very curtailed brightness levels, especially HDR mids and highs at 25%, 50% of the screen and more, because they are always trying...
  16. elvn

    LG 48CX

    As desktop/app monitors maybe. I don't think asbl is bad in media and games. I only use my 48cx for media and games and it's never bothered me really.
  17. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    Depends on your usage scenario. Very high PPD is nice for art and images, and graphics work. Besides, if you keep any same-resolution screens filling your central viewing angle at around 60 degree to 50 degree wide, they will all fill the exact same amount of your FoV and have the exact same...
  18. elvn

    Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 57" 7680x2160 super ultrawide (mini-LED)

    I think he might have ordered a newer AMD gpu to test out on the G95NC for 7680x4320 at 240Hz (or "up to" 240fpsHz using VRR more like it). While both hdmi 2.1's 41.x Gps ("48Gbps") with DSC 3x (3:1), and current Displayport 2.0~DP 2.1 implementation's 54 Gbps theoretical (though likely a...
  19. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    I find that the thread title is too generic. I'd frame it as: "Would you consider buying a modern FALD HDR LCD gaming display" after experiencing a "High performing HDR OLED gaming display" ? You can't compare an edge lit LCD or even a local dimming LCD that isn't a full array, or...
  20. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    Some of the glancing reviews so far are saying the 900D is 20% to 30% brighter than the 900c. Won't know if that is true until RTings and others do a fully fleshed out review showing real world performance. The 900C's HDR movie mode (8.7) . . Game Mode (8.8) To your point though...
  21. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    Some of the major tv manufacturers are putting out 4k FALD tvs with a little more brightness and brightness management chips but no drastic increase in the # of backlights (or MLA and fully phosphorescent OLEDs across the board in OLED lines) which would prob cut into profit. Most FALDs are...
  22. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    =================================== there are some remaining questions about the 900D that hopefully will come out in the wash as more people get these, and eventually once respected review sites do more fleshed out reviews of them: ================================ . . 1. . For pc gaming...
  23. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    Samsung Motion Rate 120, Sony MotionFlow 960, LG TruMotion 240, etc. Now Samsung "Motion Xcelerator 240Hz" (Xcelerator was not a typo lol). From samsung's 900D product page:"⁴240Hz is limited to 4K resolution and requires compatible content connection from compatible PCs. Motion Xcelerator...
  24. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    From the comments, the parameter output is great, and supposedly helped by the AI chip along with the FALD shaping. Some are saying it's 20% to 30% brighter than the 900c, but I'd have to see some real testing of that. I expect it to be a little brighter but if it's by that much I'd be...
  25. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    Per pixel emissive is definitely the way to go forward in the future, but OLED is not a microLED. For now we have two techs that can't do either method (FALD/emissive) without huge work-arounds. Backlight/emission granularity is one of the biggest weaknesses of LCD, but likewise...
  26. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    They are all hacks to squeeze more performance out of flawed technologies, and to mask their limitations. Clever design "Hacks" are a good thing, compared to not having them to leverage more out of each display tech. MLA is needed because OLED has to run at low burner mode on the stove. It...
  27. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    . . I love oled, but OLED require huge work-arounds to operate without burning through the emitters too fast. That was my point. Both FALD and OLED require tricks/hacks/work-arounds to squeeze what performance they can out of their flawed technologies, and to mask their weak points as best...
  28. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    He suspects that the 240hz is processing. However he's not sure exactly what it's doing with the frame rate in 4k 240. Will require a deep dive at some point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STyLUgh4L9M
  29. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    Tech wise, they both do the best to cover their faults or more like, reduce the impact of their weaknesses. OLED ABL and brightness limitations, etc. to reduce accelerated burn down of the emitters is a big fault on that end too (among a few other things). I just wanted to be clear that...
  30. elvn

    Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED?

    Even if avoiding outright bloom halos or keeping them to a minimum, the raised dark areas and muted bright areas in mixed contrast objects and at perimeters are always going to be a thing on FALD due to the # of backlights, like a patchwork where the contrast drops to 3000:1 to 5000:1 in those...
  31. elvn

    Where are the 8K Monitors?

    Owner's thread for the 900D up on avsforum with some early takes. Owners so far are more living room media leaning and not setting a PC up on them, but the OP said game mode is benefiting from the AI upscaling chip/tech even in game mode...
  32. elvn

    Questions & Confusion Over Some PC Gaming Controllers / Gamepads

    This might not be exactly what you are looking for, and depending on the game types and playing environment perhaps, but I love mine. Might be worth taking a look at if you are in a quest for "ultimate" pc controller types and like some aspects of keyboard+mouse (specifically, it keeps the...
  33. elvn

    LG 32GS95UE – OLED 31.5″ with 4K @ 240Hz and 1080p @ 480Hz Support - The death knell of LCD panels

    In the gaming tv realm, the highest performing FALD screens that can truly compete with OLEDs via performance gains/tradeoffs are actually more expensive than high performing OLEDs, especially over time. If anything, the highest quality FALD screens are the same price range as oleds. The...
  34. elvn

    Is OLED worth it?

    Also worth noting that fald gaming tvs typically drop some of their picture enhancements in game mode, and some of the samsungs spread their fald "blending" across a wider number of zones and with slower transitions when in game mode. Some very bright falds that don't have heatsink and...
  35. elvn

    Is OLED worth it?

    . . HDR OLED, especially glossy oled gaming tvs, can go darker and down to "infinite black" floor, at the pixel level right next to brightly colored pixels in HDR ranges. In mixed contrast areas, and even texture detail. FALD reduces mixed, contrasted areas down to 3000:1 to 5000:1 while...
  36. elvn

    Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 57" 7680x2160 super ultrawide (mini-LED)

    Oh I thought you meant the TV .. yeah the monitor was almost 100 lbs too lol, and similarly awkwardly front heavy to the screen side. I went through a few fw900's. Always take your belt off when lifting heavy screens like those.. belt buckle is bad mojo. Sweat pants or joggers all the way...
  37. elvn

    Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 57" 7680x2160 super ultrawide (mini-LED)

    I carried it myself across living room, out front door and down 3 concrete steps and over to my truck when I got rid of it. It was a bear for sure, almost 200 lbs. and most of that was front-heavy, plus just unwieldy bulk wise. When I had a PS3 I couldn't even play the quickdraw gunslinger...
  38. elvn

    Is OLED worth it?

    Like you said, probably varies from display to display. That might get better with different AI generations taking over those duties. DLSS and frame gen are also doing calculations on buffered frames (but that is with powerful hardware). . . . . . . Online gaming also uses buffered frames...
  39. elvn

    Is OLED worth it?

    You might want to check this thread for some balanced (as well as imbalanced/biased) insights, and general nit-picking info on limitations of each tech. Hardforum/Hardware/Displays: Would you ever go back to LCD after experiencing OLED? . .
  40. elvn

    32in 1440p vs 4k

    For me, for my main rig: 60 PPD is a minimum, 70 ppd if I can get it depending on the display size/dimensions. https://qasimk.io/screen-ppd/ ============================== That said, I still use 27" 1440p and a 32" 1600p at times. The 27" screens are better looking than the 32" at...
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