Stop mixing IPC and other metrics.
It's all about latency to memory and core to core.
Intel has better Latency with their Ringbus cpu's, Mesh has Worse.
Meaning HCC chips like 7900x, 10900x, 10980xe etc have worse latency than their Coffee lake and even zen2.
Amd beats intel in IPC across the...
Broadly speaking M2 is generally through chipset and at minimum 2 first are through chipset for first gen x299 due to Kabylake-X if they have 3 they may use cpu lanes and be non KBL-X exclusive.
The m2's through chipset is a X299 specification
On second gen motherboards we might assume this is...
unless you use AVX512 they will be slower than zen2, a 12 core zen2 will beat a higher clocked 14 core.
Only arguments in My book is.
X299 boards aren't that pricey.
quite a lot of pci-e lanes (3.0 though)
4 channel memory for memory capacity.
My arguments against...
what's funny is that zen2 3800x matches coffee's 5ghz allcore 9900K in most cases, so you're getting 5ghz allcore intel performance from these and in games within short distance.
appearantly the gap is gonna become somewhat smaller soon with new microcode (No miracles!) but it's already...
at amd he couldn't do more interesting stuff.
he's designed some risc based cpu's there too which have not seen the light so amd could just BAM Arm chip out.
So he probably left cause he couldn't picture what was required a decade ahead in time and don't blame him, but Zen is definitely not...
they have half the write performance but per chiplet there is no difference.
Read is same, you read more than write so it's a non issue, I was worried of this but there is only one place where you see it and that's in Aida64 and memory benchmarks which show total throughput.
The audience was all in unison with reactions with the when questions.
sighs until she said what they wanted.
05:40PM EDT - Q: How is AMD approaching the workstation market? How does that pertain to threadripper? A: We love the workstation market, and yes there will be a next...
WHEA bug might be your issue, AGESA 18.104.22.168ABB should fix it (Fps tanking)
even at 4Ghz a 3700x should be killing 4790K in singlethread performance even at 4.8Ghz easily, if something is very latency sensetive it's different story but we see that is very rare in pretty much every test.
I'm in europe, it's not impossible....
Know of many who's ordered even two weeks ago and got it from caseking already.
AMD said in earnings call they sell 3.5 X as much as the "not paper launch" zen+ so I guess demand is up there.
My 2 cent.
Amd has better I/O, better multithread, security.
At a cost of ever so slight reduction in singlethread.
and higher latency. - This is masked 96% by huge L3 cache.
I find the 9900K difficult to recommend as it's pricey for "little", the platform sucks in comparison with I/O etc, the...
Navi beating 2080TI, dead easy.
Question is.. will they ?
Will it be worth it ? Nvidia on 10 or 7nm will easily beat it.
1750 mhz 80 CU Navi with big fat 384 bit bus and 16gbit memory chips, issue solved and it'll be a lot faster. but as above.. will they....
I had an asus board, bought the cheapest asrock board.
Granted the asrock bios menu suck.. big time, but my god it's been good to me!
Asus board is now as the server, trying now desperately to get my 1700 + 64gb ram to work.
Asrock AB350M pro4, reset bios, insert the 1700 + 4 sticks 16gbX4...
Steel Legend Vs Extreme4 - Extreme 4 has front usb-c, Steel Legend has Displayport rear - Same pcb.
Phantom Gaming 4 and Pro4 are identical - Difference is Pro4 has M2 cooler and USB-C out in the rear. - Same pcb
CPU VRM I believe is identical, but I'm a proponent that it's highly overstated...
I'd do a different take.
It's same ballpark but I chose to blame latency for most of it.
Latencies, every industry see higher latencies as bandwidth and capability increase, may that be internet, the playing a song on a modern device, display standards like DVI, DP, Hdmi vs good ol d-sub.. even...
50 feet is apparently 15 meters.
My 25 meter cat 5e link disagree cause it runs 10gbit without issues :)
That just strengthen the claim that cat 5e is underrated, but if I'd lay cables I'd get cat6-8 where price being the factor for choosing.
if cat 5e is in walls already I'd try before swapping.
So, I got an Aha experience.
replacing 1st gen 32mb cache samsung 7200rpm 1tb drives with a single 8tb hdd 7200rpm baracuda pro.
I could raid 4 of those samsung 1tb's together striped and the 8tb was still heaps faster, in everything but seq read\write it was still up to 4x faster!
I looked into them.
They're nearly identical but there is a big difference to me...
Amd's just works, enable it and done, freestyle is not.
It's not overly aggressive nor too soft to not show any difference, doesn't generate artifact, ignores mostly what should be ignored.
In the end, it's not...
If I can manage to stack up to 40% rebate I might go nuts with a XT on water and see if I can push 2200 mhz.
Hopefully we get a 5800 or so before november when my rebates run out - got a shit ton of rebate points for my etailer because of zen2 purchases.
Every 9900K on a 360 AIO will do 5ghz no issues... in a AC controlled room, without I go down to 4.8 for my friends, made two profiles, this for winter and that for summer.
the 8700k's is far easier to handle when it comes to temperature especially when you pass the 30c ambient mark.
had no idea cause I don't use them either :)
but my "value calculation" is rough and pretty accurate, a 400$ board can easily exist and people want and need the features.
700.. well people buy rtx titan so enough said :)
Sheet is highly overly cautious, there is enough tests of cheap b350's and 3900X just.. working well without any issues on internet now :)
no problems after an hour run of all 12 cores loaded at 4.3 ghz! :)
it's toasty at 95 ish c, but who cares.. not like they're actually burning up.
I pay 210 or so for a microatx 2 nvme, x570, 8 sata, 1x 16x, 1x m2 wifi key, 1x 4x slot and a open 1x slot I believe.
+ more usb bandwidth.
That is a bit steep but "Ok"
Add 10gbit, 100 $.
Add 1-2 nvme more 50$ more.
Add premium sound 10-20$ more.
beefier vrm - 10$
400$ is the most I can think...