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Selling a used DS Lite, I've probably logged around 100-120 hours onto it and it is in good condition. It comes with a M3 DS Real cart with the updated Sakura Firmware loaded, complete with a 4gb MicroSd card. M3 Real is a slot 1 adapter and only needs an additional Slot 2 cart for GBA games...

It is glaringly obvious that no matter what you say, Terra will still claim a visual difference using that link as proof, arguing with him/her is a futile effort.

It won't really make a difference

So essentially it's a non-issue? Cool.

Wait, isn't this thread supposed to be about something positive?

Can't any of you find ANYTHING more important in your lives then bitching about something you can't do anything about, for hours on end?

Let me just be the first to say, Congratulations on your first locked/deleted thread.

And guess what, that card will have 8 pipelines, it's not going to be going against the top of the line

That's the floppy disk connector, can't tell whether it would get in the way or not

I'm pretty sure OpenGL already has native multi-threading support. Does it say anywhere specifically the gains are from multi-threading, or are they just assuming that?

S3 is not making cards for the top-end, only midrange and below

The R520 will not have the same limitations, only lower cards will

damn my mouse....

So you don't believe him? Wow, can they ever tell the truth, or does there have to be another secret motive in every statement they make?

Wow, what a gigantic waste of time

I didn't realize my comment was so offensive, seems completely tame to me, but thanks for your heartwearming response. Anyways, do you actually think you're right, and can take the stance that you are when doubt is being cast on the article from so many different sources? Do you, personally...

And likewise to you about negative news, neither of you are right until the card gets actually released, neither of you

Are you saying an effect can't have a high and low quality level? If it's not the highest level, it doesn't count?

It's amazing how some people look at this and still believe it *could* be real.

Don't forget to mention the leagues of Nvidia users who said they saw no shimmering, and are now jumping on the bandwagon to bash ATI for an issue they said didn't exist, since they had no explanation and cannot hold any guilt. But enough wasted words.

They're a budget motherboard maker who make tons of wierd products I haven't seen a single person buy or use, mostly just motherboards that can support basically any hardware configuration (AMD and Intel, every known socket) with add-in cards

And market cap is a very fickle way of determining the size of a company, those numbers were switched around 2 years ago. It still doesn't change the fact that ATI has both more employees and is much older than Nvidia

It's amazing the amount of people who actually believe ATI is the smaller of the two companies...

I think the problem really is that people don't use the vendor specific forums for vendor specific news, this forum would be a lot more cleaner if stuff was posted in the correct areas so you don't have to sift through so much bs to get what you want. I think it's just that some people want...

Whoa, what? Is that a sensible comment I see? It....it can't be....!!

But you're obviously not aware of where ATI was as a company before the R300, you know, when their stock was at <4 and thier profits were less than a third of what they are now

Is everybody an analyst now? I can tell you haven't been following ATI as a business for more than a year.

Wow, like this thread wasn't made on purpose to annoy everybody. And somehow moderators aren't locking or deleting these threads.... oh wait, there goes one...

And does anybody care? Every company in competition with another steals ideas, if this is a new fact of life to you I suggest you get out of the house more. Funny you question someone else's age when you make childish statements like this one

What? The reason the FX sucked in 32-bit precision was because NV allocated a pathetic amount of registers for 32-bit work, if they didn't waste space using fp16 it would have no problem running fp32 at an equivalent amount of speed, the only negative being it takes more transistors to run fp32...

How exactly do you "make" something cheaper?

I'll take the gullible option, any company can keep consumers on their toes with sweet sweet words and promises

What? There aren't any pipes hidden on the GTX, it has a max of 24 pipes, so that means all of the 32 pipe cards have to be coming from a different line of silicon in the foundry (which by itself costs tens of millions of dollars). But, not every chip coming out can have 32 pipes, so they use...

Then you're setting yourself up to be disappointed when they don't do that. People said they were stockpiling faster cards in every generation past the NV30, and they never did. Doing this would just waste money, not make it

This is like the 10th time we've heard about how many pipes the R520 has, just wait until it's released for crying out loud. Where did you hear this, having a 512-bit bus is unfeasible

Which is then covered in this thread

Is it just me, or does anybody else stop reading once they get to this line? :confused: Bitboys does make GPU's for phones and handheld devices you know

I think you would be better off spending that $5k on something more useful

Net income was way down when the 5800 actually arrived on store shelves, it went from 180 million to 90 million during the year that had the delays, and it still isnt anywhere near the 180 million it was

Well atleast their market share is up http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=8425