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Yep my W10 is free -- https://hardforum.com/threads/windows-10-reactivation-hassle.1951854/#post-1043415758

Hello, Microsoft cannot harm your CPU, only their OS. But yeah, starting bid $500 for my quad Phenom II .

Here's a better 1-month chart:

... and my AMD laptop, completely un-patched as well: $ sudo ./spectre-meltdown-checker.sh Spectre and Meltdown mitigation detection tool v0.31 Checking for vulnerabilities against running kernel Linux 3.19.0-32-generic #37~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 22 09:41:40 UTC 2015 x86_64 CPU is AMD...

Vulnerable, I have not installed updated BIOS or any kernel patches. $ sudo ./spectre-meltdown-checker.sh Spectre and Meltdown mitigation detection tool v0.31 Checking for vulnerabilities against running kernel Linux 4.11.12-041112-generic #201707210350 SMP Fri Jul 21 07:53:15 UTC 2017 x86_64...

The Asus list is showing updates for H170 bios version 2602, but it's not available. Why even bother if it's going to reduce performance? It's AMD from now on φuckers!

Samsung has a PDF data sheet that describes thermal tolerance, and a quick description here.

Samsung M.2 already comes with a heatspreader, adhesive label includes a thin layer of copper, read the spec.

A CPU hardware operation is replaced by OS software to overcome a design defect, more wait states, etc. A 10% hit sounds very optimistic.

I think I'm going to skip the patch for now, I'm worried it may bork my Linux, Asus officially does NOT support Linux. re. my OP, does the BIOS+Microcode update include the ME update?

At no time should the OS bork your computer, of any vintage. Just install Linux Mint.

Thank you. I have 3 Skylakes and 1 Kabylake that I'm about to replace as soon as Ryzen APU is out. I won't even bother with the "patches". I even pressed my AMD FX-8350 back into service, feels nice & toasty right about now, lol. Also, I never liked the stupid Intel mobo pins that bend if you...

If you paid $300+ for a CPU with design defects, you'll notice and you won't forget either.

Two updates available, I’m pasting directly from Asus website. Does the BIOS+ Microcode update 1001 include the ME update? I’m running Linux and cannot run Windows executable for ME. Version 1001 2018/01/04 7.87 MBytes STRIX H270I GAMING BIOS 1001 1. Update CPU Microcode 2. Improve system...

A while back Google Drive stopped rendering web pages, prompting you instead to download a copy and run it locally in your browser. So Google has obviously known for a while the JavaScript is a security risk for their servers. Intel & Google were keeping this private. But when others found it...

As far as I know Windows 10 is free. I downloaded W10 from MS when it was first released and installed it into a virtual machine, it still works and has done several version updates.

Next launch will be the POTUS

I bet I can sell my old Phenom IIs for $400/ea.

That press release reeks of double-speak and corporate arrogance. Class action suit coming your way MOFOs

I switched to Intel because of the lack of high-end AMD ITX boards and look where it got me -- all my Intel machines now have defective/vulnerable CPUs. I like your under-the-desk vs. on-the-desk comparison. On-desk ITX being closer to the user you also get more noise from spinners, so you have...

Looks like a 1-piece APU like my Samsung A8 quad. You removed the spinner completely?

Is this it? Doesn't HP have a User Service manual like Dell? Does it have a removable battery? http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-envy-x360-convertible-laptop-15z-touch-1za07av-1

I would run Linux and boot w7 as a VM (if you must).

Awesome, thank you. Does it have 1 SATA and 1 NVME M.2 slot with easy access?

Very impressive benchmarks. Is that the HP Envy? I can't find a decent photo of it, does it have num pad and separate ins, del, home, end keys?

Doesn't Intel Management Engine need a Windows driver to work? What about those of us running Linux?

Intel ME firmware Big Brother backdoor is scary. Does AMD have the same?

I have an H270 Strix with M.2 front/back and temps are about the same even without the double-decker.

I can't wait to see mini ITX mobos for the 2700U. Looks better than both my i7-6700 and i7-7700 APUs, I can see Intel losing market share to AMD big time.

And the last one, a Q07 with i5-6500, an HTPC for the living room. A TV replacement operated by remote control, idles at 15W at the wall. It's tucked behind the screen so you can barely see it, only access is for the power button & USB3 ports. Just like the Q03 and Q11 above, it's a Linux...

That red inspired me, so here's some more. This is my Q11, i7-6700, no plumbing, two photos, front view and guttyworks. My Q33 is here, and A17 is several pages back.

Here's my Q03, i7-7700, no plumbing. Second photo is the back with the almost-removable M.2

Love that red. Why do people keep such large cases on their desk instead of on the floor?

Failure is more statistical than testable. So an initial test-OK may be statistically insignificant. I'd do dd & cmp a 500GB image and listen for excessive vibration and weird "clonk" & parking sounds.

I have a Thinkpad 770ED in new-like condition, with video capture, all accessories, even a floppy drive -- maybe it is now a collector's item?

Here's the item with CF flash drive, replaces any 2.5" IDE

It's worse than mine, I'd return it to Intel. I already told you (above in post #10) that it will overheat with ANY heatsink.

You have to add your labor to that, unless you consider your time to be worthless. In the end it becomes a $1000 cpu without warranty. For most of us delidding and plumbing are out of the question. AMD CPUs are soldered, so you have a better option.

New CPUs make very little heat, my i7-7700 ITX idles at 15W at the wall. Today's technologies are more efficient at any workload compared to CPUs from 10+ yrs ago. The i7-7700 is no exception, problem is the laws of thermodynamics, it's a smaller die = smaller surface for heat transfer + the IHS...

I'm using a Noctua NH-L9x65 for my i7-7700. It works but this i7-7700 runs ~10 degrees hotter than both my i7-6700. I think Kaby lake heats up quickly and is very slow to shed heat, it will do that with ANY heatsink.