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To me it's not worth the hassle of RMA and I wouldn't be surprised if a "new" card has the same issue because it seem to be firmware related (MSI x570). I'll wait it out and see if there are any vBIOS / SMBIOS udpates. In my case UEFI doesn't do much for me. I use a run of the mill Acer 4k60...

Indeed. I did all the fixes and still have issues, thus why I asked if any others were having issues or im just unlucky. :ROFLMAO:

All of that and it's the latest MSI BIOS. My guess is that it's typical MSI quality. I even pulled the CMOS battery and unplugged the PSU. I'm just going to leave it in CSM until Win 10 goes EOL and I have to upgrade motherboards.

:LOL: Did all that and more. Only thing that works is switching from UEFI. Seems shit is still broken.

Yes, I know there is a vBIOS udpate and it is applied to my 4090. I figured I'd ask anyways... Anyone having issues with blank screens with UEFI turned on? Just some of the wackyness. To get into the BIOS I'd have to boot into Windows and then restart. The BIOS flash utility wouldn't display...

Took some troubleshooting and searching but it appears that the 4090 hates UEFI, at least on my MSI x570 Gaming Plus. To get into the BIOS I'd have to boot into Windows and then restart. The BIOS flash utility wouldn't display on screen. Sometimes I'd lose signal when switching KVM sources...

It has a standard backplate. I reused the Zotac thermal pads used on the back of the memory. Everything runs about 15c cooler than stock. I will use Gelid pads the next time I have to repaste it. The specific block. Bykski Zotac 4090

It looks like my x570 Gaming Plus has weird issues with the 4090. I migh revist Linux after I am confident those issues are resolved or I buy a new mobo.

I used the QDC for the first time today. No leakage whatsoever. They were a bit sticky to get apart but that could be down to the fact that I have them crammed in there pretty tight. I would recommend them to anyone.

I'll give mint a shot.

Power consumption seems "normal". What flavor of Linux are you using, I tried usuing the latest Ubuntu release (22.04.2) and the FAH control app doesn't respond. I have installed python but it seems the specific version that FAH control wants has been depricated.

I thought about going the VM route but I'm a bit lazy about that. I'll wait to see if the issue gets fixed. The 4070 ti and 4090 have similar boost clocks. My 4090 is running >3Ghz

Seems plausible. The 4070 ti is at the top on some WUs and the 4080/4090 are essentially identical. There is something wacky going on for sure.

That makes sense on the ppd drop. Still wondering why the 4070 is faster.

Could well be. Might create a Linux USB stick and see what happens.

For sure some WU pay out more than others but I'd assume that a 4090 ( > 2x CUDA cores) would complete the same WU faster than a 4070 ti. In most cases it does. It seems the client needs to be updated to utilized the increased core counts / chip architecture. Alz 18601 as an example. I know...

Ineed, and it's not the only project where the 4070ti is beating the 4090 by a large margin. At first I thought it was just me but it seems there are oddities in general. I ruled out a driver issue, I rolled back to 527.56, same issue. The PPD drop does not coincide with a windows udpate...

Projects like this are killing PPD on the 4090. Time to upgrade to a 4070ti :ROFLMAO:

I might have some time later. F@H temps for reference.

My Zotac 4090 with Bykski block running furmark. My GPU vs hotspot delta is 8c. I'm using one 420mm * 44mm EKWB radiator with fans / pump @ 40%. Coolant temp is ~11c above ambient. My clocks are just a tad higher but within margin of error.

Oh and I now have room to add a 4070ti for more PPD if I choose to.

Finally finished getting the 4090 under water. I went with the Bykski block for a few reasons. EK kept delaying the Zotac 4090 block and I got tired of waiting. The Bykski block is shorter than the EK block by ~1" , leaving a lot more room in a cramped case. I don't care for RGB and removing...

I was curious so I fired up Furmark. Zotac 4090 / 5800x / water loop 600w from the wall. This is not typical or real world. Running games or F@H pulls down 450ish for me. Absolutely no worries on my Seasonic 850 focus platinum.

Bump. Free for anyone in the San Jose area.

Used for a few weeks while I waited on the BTOS cables. Asking for $15 shipped (covers the cost of a padded flat-rate envelope). $15 Heatware: https://www.heatware.com/u/132109/to

Got some of my EK fittings and the ZMT, yup it smells like a pond liner. :LOL: Edit: durr... EPDM is also used for automotive coolant hoses.

I just ordered the bykski ones. I'll give them a good leak-down test before putting any fluid in them. Going to use the same EK fittings I'm using for the rest of the build.

The ZMT is EPDM, the same stuff used to line koi ponds. Pond liners have a useful life of more than 20 years when exposed to sunlight.

I'll check those out. I'm going to be using that exact ZMT in my build. I was also looking at the Bykski QDC. https://www.primochill.com/products/bykski-g-1-4in-female-to-female-quick-disconnect-fitting?variant=41035039604905

Which QCC? I was looking at the EK ones but they basically want $90 per.

I'm going full ZMT in my build. Then again I have no RGB and a steel side panel. :LOL:

Whatever is $1599 (or close) that isn't Palit. After that it's just a comparison of which company has the best RMA process in case the card dies. Unless you want an AIO, then it's MSI. Edit: I bought the Zotac Trinity because it was available without markup. I've been running F@H on it 24x7...

I think I am in need of an update.

As other have stated, the air cooler on the 4090 is massive and keeps the thing cool and quiet. The power efficiency curve of the 4090 is pretty much flat past anything over ~70% power limit or undervolted. My Zotac is at 65% PL which seems to be the sweet spot for F@H, my hotspot temps never...

Running the Seasonic Focus platinum 850W with 4090/5800x3D. Full load the system pulls ~550w. No concerns.

Yeah, I thought we might have broken it with all the extra work. :LOL: Reboot didn't help this last time, fortunately it was a short wait for the next WU. Today will be a low scoring day, most projects have been in the 8-12m ppd range.

Client stuck downloading again. Restarting it didn't help this time. Anyone else having issues? Took it ~10 minutes to pick anything up. Forgot about the server status page. https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats

I'll keep it up until PG&E makes it completely impossible.

I asked him about 6 months ago when he mentioned he was idling all his hardware. I would be renting his hardware, but I get it. :LOL: He would charge me $.08 per kwh, I pay $.44 in CA.