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Yeah, I don't think many will care about people who normally get paid the same whether they work hard or hardly work. Also, if AMD can survive for years while hemorrhaging money, I think Intel will come out the other aide fine.

Did you forget that AMD identified a "small" batch of the defective vapor chambers? I do. That means they should know which cards were affected; and yet AMD chose to not issue a recall of those units. So, they either know which units were affected and should coordinate with their partners to...

I literally told you someone posted tight here in this thread. Go back and read it yourself. And no, you'll just defend AMD and give them yet another pass. Good job. Edit: This issue is their responsibility to fix, full stop.

Sure it is. Edit: Actually, quote your source, how about that?

Funny enough, I have worked retail. And returning products back onto the sales floor even when a defect is found is not uncommon, in fact it's an every day practice. But hey, keep burring your head in the sand and giving AMD another pass.

Yeah, it's not like someone just posted having the same problem that's at the heart of the still current issue with a brand new card 6 posts before yours. How silly of us to come to what is at this point an obvious conclusion. You heard it here, boys. AMD doesn't have an issue, nothing to see...

This seriously wouldn't surprise me in the least.

The 4090s cooler really doesn't need to be swapped out for WC unless you are desperate for the slot real estate. That cooler is just on another level.

You would figure that it's obvious that anyone who purchases such a product already threw caution to the wind when it comes to power draw; and yet we get people cracking jokes about extreme products. Look no further than the 4090 Ti thread. The only humorous part is those cracking jokes aren't...

It'll melt only if you don't make sure to properly seat the connector. 🤷‍♂️

Interesting take, but reality is seldomly that interesting. The reality is we were stuck on quad cores because AMD didn't have shit that could compete with those 4 cores. Had intel pushed their advantage, I doubt AMD would even still be around. Sad, but true. :meh:

I guess that's the pit fall of having most of these developments primarily on consoles. They tend to be tailored to a very narrow set of hardware that rarely gets upgraded. I do, however, fully believe that the game developers should be putting more effort into properly supporting these...

The issue was proven to be user error. Users were not seating the cable correctly all the way into the connector.

Wait. You actually trusted AMD? Word to the wise, never trust a corporation. o_O

I'll leave this here for you to read. http://jongerow.com/12VHPWR/index.html

No matter how idiot-proof you make anything, there will always be an idiot to out-idiot the idiot-proof. Never underestimate the stupidity of humanity. :coffee:

Rotting on the shelves means not selling almost anything at all. Perhaps you should read what I wrote again.

But... but... but... They aren't selling, we were told they are sitting on shelves rotting. :shifty:

Oh? The rug pull cycle has begun again you say? Suckers born every minute... :meh:

User submitted time codes, it never assumes, everyone just pitches in by reporting start and end times of sponsor segments if you run across a video that has not yet been. I'm there 3+ years I've been using it I've had to report maybe 6 videos total, so there is definitely a ton of people...

Fair enough, I can't really speak for their reputation outside of the US, so I'll take you at your word on it. What?!?!? Since when is speaking an opinion (a well founded one at that) hate and bitterness? All I can think of is EVGA fanboyism, but you don't rub me that way so w/e. Maybe, but...

Niche can work fine. What doesn't work is a niche of a niche, which this most definitely is.

GN has 3 videos total of EVGA dark board reviews, 1 from a year ago, 1 from 3 years ago, and 1 from 5 years ago. HU has no content on EVGA Dark board, neither does Debauer. Just how known do you think they are for those boards when there's basically crumbs of content on them? Here's some food...

Guessing you have never heard of a loss leader? EVGA just buried their loss leader, and as such will slowly but surely proceed to be forgotten; unless they do something to stay in the public eye, like said video. I don't blame most people for not seeing through their thinly veiled attempt at...

All well and good, but they have absolutely no reason to show this at all except to stay fresh in people's minds. They know full well that their GPU side of the business was THE business. And like they say, there's a sucker born every minute.

Possible, perhaps an attempt not to look like they come groveling back, but rather returning as heroes. :confused:

Last ditch effort to remain relevant before fading into obscurity, and finally shuttering their doors? Just a guess.

Different amount of VRAM, different bandwidth; it is NOT apples to apples. FULL STOP Edit: I will also be ignoring this bullshit comparison from here on out as it is already so far off topic that this thread should already get scrubbed.

No one is using power consumption as a metric, that was my point. Everything is wrong with his math, again, apples to oranges. [H] has been a staunch voice against this type of bullshit comparisons for decades. No, it's not; no matter how hard you pretend it to be so. Again, apples to oranges.

A burnt 8 pin? But AMDs marketing told us that 8 pins were safe! But really, I would contact EVGA to see if they will replace it, before they go under.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Whatever you think you've seen so far is incorrect, plain and simple. Different amount of VRAM, different bandwidth and a different architecture. The fact that the 4080 can perform far above a 3080 all while consuming considerably less power should tell you...

This is incredibly flawed. You are assuming that the 3080 and 4080 behave the same clock for clock, and just this fact alone should invalidate your math. Does anyone have a source for any clock for clock benches? Without clock for clock benches, both lines of thinking are neither proven nor...

Haven't you heard? Nvidia bad, AMD good! Don't question it, just join the cult team red. :rolleyes:

This is what happens when you think you can be cheeky and get away unscathed. It's like watching someone open their mouth just to insert their foot. :banghead:

Even a broken watch is right twice a day.

If a midtier card pumps out the performance of a 4090, is it really midtier though? 🤔

So, no MSI afterburner and EVGA is likely to drop Precision X1 as soon as no one is looking; well, shit...

Did the people who design and build these things ever walk around their city/town? Most places have terrible walking architecture. Hell, most of the US has garbage for bicycle infrastructure and they can't seem to fix something as simple as bike lanes.

Sir, that's also a mistake. 😂