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    i7 4790k price are ''falling''

    Not true. Many games scale well beyond 4 threads now.
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    i7 4790k price are ''falling''

    This. The 4790k is still the go-to gaming processor right now. The x99 platform is only really useful if you do CPU intensive productivity work, at which case the 5820k hits a good price/performance breakpoint - 6 cores for ~350, but still a premium for DDR4 and mobo. The 4790k will be...
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    The Official - Haswell-E Overclocking results thread

    Intel added Haswell-E to their performance tuning plan today! http://click.intel.com/tuningplan/purchase-a-plan Registering my processor now. 3x480 rads ready to cool my 5960x. Just waiting on the mobo and RAM to get here...then it's balls to the wall max stable OC time. I don't really...
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    YMMV - Sennheiser Momentum on-ear $99 in-store Best Buy

    Nice low impedence unlike other sennheiser products. These should make quality sound without a headphone amp. The on-ear design can cause some ear irritation after long use if you're not used to it...but this model looks to have softer padding than what I'm used to - might not even be a...
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    Quality water cooling for 5960X?

    It will, probably up to 4.5/4.6, but not much higher. I didn't want to lose IPC over my 3770k@4.8 with my upgrade, so a heavier OC with a heavier cooling solution is required. :) Competitive pricing. High quality. Performance focused (they generally rank very well in reviews). I have only...
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    Quality water cooling for 5960X?

    The general rule of thumb does not apply to the 5960x, it's not a little quad core. It produces a LOT more heat. I'd say a 360 rad is more the minimum for the 5960x if you want better performance than an AIO cooler. Switching from a 240mm h100 to a 240mm monsta rad custom loop on my OC'd i7...
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    i7 970 vs Xeon X5650

    I've owned two 970s. One still holds steady at 4.2ghz, the other one has degraded and wont hold over 4.0 stable (might have something to do with me putting 1.55v on it with inadequate cooling for a few months). The x5650 is definitely a higher quality chip than the 970. It's the one I'd use...
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    Ah, okay. Well, if you put your 5930k @ 4.2-4.4ghz or so, you'll notice a bump in performance across the board from what you have now. It'll be slight, but the performance benefit will be there, especially in heavy load situations. As far as gaming goes, you'll notice more stable, higher...
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    If your 2600k is pushed to it's maximum, it will have about the same IPC as haswell-E pushed to it's maximum. Unfortunately you will not see a performance increase in most games aside from the heavily multithreaded friendly (battlefield, ARMA). If I wanted a 6-core platform i'd go with the...
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    E-Sports Drawing Big Crowds and Big Money

    E-sports has been steadily growing since I started following it about a decade ago. It used to be a joke like many of you think it is; however you'd be quite silly to brush it off as a simple fad, or something that's not serious. It's a multi-billion dollar industry globally, and the...
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    Movies Have Worst Summer Since 1997

    17.00/ticket (non-imax) in San Diego. Fuck Hollywood. Movies suck compared to almost anything else i can spent my entertainment budget on. This downward spiral will continue for them - they have priced themselves out of the entertainment market in many major cities.
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    Intel Haswell-E Core i7-5960X CPU & X99 Chipset @ [H]

    Correct, let me clarify high clockspeed - anything over ~3.8ghz. The heat output and voltage requirements at that clockspeed would be immense, so immense that it puts it out of reach of even 99% of the enthusiast community based on technical issues if the price itself doesnt do the job. A...
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    No LEDs, board dead?

    I would not buy a used mobo unless I confirm it works first. :) Soooo many different parts that can break. Why would this dude randomly have a motherboard with no CPU paired with it? Smells fishy. My sabertooth z77 has different lights that turn on and off depending on if the CPU/RAM/GPU is...
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    e5-1680v2 would like to get one…

    More level 3 cache (25 vs 20) More RAM support (256gb vs 128gb) ECC Memory support It's a server processor. Its special benefits will be server related. It's not meant to be price competitive with the 5960x.
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    Intel Haswell-E Core i7-5960X CPU & X99 Chipset @ [H]

    Or maybe it's more simple. Maybe SB-E and IB-E sold like crap compared to x58. Intel likes money. Also, the rate of advancement with processor tech is slowing down. This isn't some conspiracy theory - we are hitting the limits of silicon. Each new advancement outside of core count requires...
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    Intel Haswell-E Core i7-5960X CPU & X99 Chipset @ [H]

    The Anandtech staff has a very basic understanding of overclocking, or at least that's what they show in their reviews. They are focused on providing OC results that even the most mongoloid of readers can achieve. I love the quality of Anandtech reviews overall, but they do not take OCing...
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    I think that this reserves a thread. Best RAM on Haswell-E

    Save money. Don't get expensive RAM right now. Faster kits (4ghz+) will be out in a year or two. Use the money you saved at launch to buy a faster kit later. :) I personally went with a 2400mhz g.skill kit.
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    PCI-E lane saturation has not happened in previous generations before a new standard is out. By the time it happens with PCI-E gen 3, gen 4 mobos will be out and our x99 systems will be long in the tooth.
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    Intel Haswell-E Core i7-5960X CPU & X99 Chipset @ [H]

    less than 1% performance difference, even dual GPU cards will only have a few % performance hit at most from being in a 8x PCI-E 3.0 lane. The difference is there but it's one of the last things that matters if you're building on a budget. Generally every time we get close to maxxing out the...
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    I love my Noctua NHU12P-SE2, Intel i7 Haswell-E 5930K

    It's not like there's some unbiased 3rd party group that rates fan performance and tells the companies what to put on their boxes. The fan producers themselves make the tests, all with slightly different methodologies. Generally, "on the box" fan statistics are only useful for comparing fans...
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    Extra cache helps when the processor is heavily multitasking. It gives more space to manage data, it doesn't add more speed necessarily, but it can add a few % of performance under heavy load, depending on what the workload is. I agree, the 5930k seems pointless. Those that need the PCI-E...
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    X99 mobos launched! (Asus first)

    You and many others are echoing good things about Asrock lately. If the OC formula is available at launch, I'll probably be going with that mobo. Specs look right on for a fatty OC, and it should be priced more reasonably than the competition.
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    Need is a very strong word to use when we are talking about bleeding edge enthusiast stuff. :cool: With how mobile-device focused the world is these days, I can easily see M.2 becoming the next big thing. Those drives are tiny even in comparison to a 2.5" drive. Small is good. Once the...
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    Depends on the speed of the PCI-E connection. x1 or x2, sure, not a big deal. But a 4x lane connection provides 32GB/s bandwith. Thats over 5x the speed of SATA 6GB/s connection. from: http://www.asrock.com/microsite/IntelX99/ Doesn't look to be ASRock specific either, Asus is touting...
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    M.2 is new (released 2013 i believe), I doubt it will be replaced in the next few years. it has a distinct advantage over the SATA interface by providing a direct link to the CPU without having to go through as many hops. If i needed an OS SSD for my x99 build, I'd definitely get an M.2...
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    +1 for no reason to go x79 at this point unless you can get a great deal. x79 is now an EOL product while x99 is just launching. DDR4 should scale beyond 4ghz speeds in the next few years. Sure, ram performance makes a minimal performance impact, but we're still talking about a performance...
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    i only see the 5820k for $344 : http://www.frys.com/product/8133815?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG Where's the 5960x :( 6 cores for as much as i paid for my 3770k though...finally, after 3 years some decent progress from intel. I can dig it.
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    Amazon Buys Twitch…Is Valve Next?

    This could happen, but I really don't see it soon. Picking up Valve to head their game development stuff would be a genius move - especially considering both companies are already stationed in Seattle. However Valve is worth an order of magnitude more money than Twitch. Amazon has pretty thin...
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    I love my Noctua NHU12P-SE2, Intel i7 Haswell-E 5930K

    Having used similar coolers, they wont provide more than a few degrees difference over what OP already has. The cooler he has is actually decent to begin with. The TJMAX of these processors is 100-105c, and you can run them right up to that TJMAX without damage (per intel's chief...
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    Even if your cooling setup is beast, no reason to pummel your processor. Wasted electricity at the least. 1.4-1.5v should be able to get you rock solid @ 4.8. I'm doing 1.4v/4.8ghz on a 3770k now, 100% stable for many months now under custom water loop. I've seen reports of 1.6v killing...
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    Hashwell-e reviews

    Fair enough. Not trying to tell you what to do with your money! :D Just throwing it all out there for others like me, who are sitting on way too much cooling power waiting for the 5960x to arrive... :) God bless solder.
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    Hashwell-e reviews

    Consensus based on what? "Extreme chip degradation"? Having to bump vcore by a bit (~0.05v) a few days after stressing your new OC is normal. Unless you are pumping dangerous levels of voltage (>1.52v), or you have insufficient cooling, the degradation rate isn't anything to worry about. Max...
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    I love my Noctua NHU12P-SE2, Intel i7 Haswell-E 5930K

    4.3ghz really isn't a lot of heat if it's set up correctly. A lot of chips can do 4.3ghz with the stock intel cooler. The cooler you have can probably handle up to 4.5-4.6ghz OC pretty handily.
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    The Offical - Who is buying a Haswell-E 5960X, 5930K or 5820K Thread

    Unless Intel has lied to us repeatedly. Yes, all solder has been confirmed via multiple releases...someone even delidded a ES 5960x to make sure. I'm getting a 5960x. Built a new loop for it - 3x 480 rads in push pull & mcp35x2 pump. Good enough to keep my non-soldered, non-delidded 3770k...
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    Seagate Ships World’s First 8TB Hard Drives

    I remember that. The reasons I decided to pick up the 6tb seagate drive is it's a new design and it's noticeably faster than other 6tb models available. Also, it's been several years since that failure streak happened. Companies don't stay in business if their products keep failing...
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    The most stupidly named video card of all time ?

    mach 64? I think we have a winner.
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    Seagate Ships World’s First 8TB Hard Drives

    Cool data, looks like the majority of Seagate's HDD problems are limited to their smaller drives.
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    Seagate Ships World’s First 8TB Hard Drives

    Just picked up a 6tb seagate drive last week. 215MB/sec real world transfer speed, way higher than the 130-150MB/sec real world transfer speeds I get from my older WD blue/black 500gb-3gb drives. The 128mb buffer and high density platters doing some serious work. Hope it's as reliable as it...
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    Haswell E press packet leaked.

    Absolutely. But if you want to game, encode a video, record video, and stream at the same time like I plan to do...8 cores at 5ghz might just be enough. :) Edit: I think that's the first picture I've seen of an x99 Asus mobo that looks production ready.
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    Haswell-E, DDR4 and 8 core. Good upgrade from sandy bridge.

    Latency doesnt matter as much with modern intel processors. They get a performance boost from using faster ram with looser timings. Lots and lots of data out there on this. Here's one article on it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell Skimming over that...
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