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    5900x, running hot

    I doubt it, I feel like they're scrambling right now in a big way with the USB issues. A lot of people are saying it's not fixed with AGESA1.2.0.2 on 500 series boards. It's not a good look. I know they're trying to cut off all the BIOS modders with by putting the locks in place to prevent...
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    5900x, running hot

    9 Asus boards now have AGESA 1.2.0.2 beta releases, including two lowly B550 boards. Only vendor with 1.2.0.2 releases out right now. Other than 20+ years of good luck with them, this is why I always run Asus. I'm expecting 1.2.0.2 on my X470 board before any other vendor has them out for 400...
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    5900x, running hot

    Yup, it does put it at 1.050V with XMP on.
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    5900x, running hot

    If this is the right value, mine doesn't change. Of course this is 2133 as I'm able to test P95. Idle SoC Voltage (SVI2 TFN) 0.9750V, no change under P95 torture blend.
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    5900x, running hot

    Just got done testing this out. CMOS reset and XMP failed. Tried it with and without setting the TRC. Reset and loose timings with XMP also failed (16-16-16-38). Both of those behave exactly the same, reset immediately (sometimes with a bluescreen sometimes just a hard reset) upon starting P95...
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    5900x, running hot

    XMP doesn't work for me now at all (meaning P95 torture test). The shocker is that I can't even leave it on auto, bump up to 3200 and voltage to XMP value, and have it work. I'll have to try yet another CMOS reset to be sure. I swear I had it working, and it seems like when I make changes to...
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    5900x, running hot

    It's stable at 142W P95 torture test blend with 2133. And it was stable in that test at 3200. 😠 Damn thing. I did try auto timings including checking that TRC was set to auto, and only bumped up the memory speed to 3200 and the voltage to 1.35 (XMP), swore it ran stable on first reboot at...
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    5900x, running hot

    There's nothing wrong with my RAM itself. It's passed multiple nights running memtest86 at its rated XMP speed (3200) on 4 different CPUs on 2 different motherboards. This started immediately after installing the latest BIOS that uses AGESA 1.2.0.0 (and also on .1). I ran optimized defaults...
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    5900x, running hot

    So I wanted to drop in here again since you helped me quite a bit on this issue.. but I updated to AGESA 1.2.0.1, reflashed my BIOS, cleared CMOS RAM, tried a format (that part didn't change anything, so I installed my backed up image), and narrowed my Prime95 instability to the RAM speed. On...
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    5900x, running hot

    I've never noticed any significant difference in the areas that both Ryzen Master and hwinfo measure. I'm not going for a 100% idle state, I'm doing work but my CPU package power in hwinfo is between 30-39W
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    5900x, running hot

    For possible comparison, here's what an X470 + 5900X system "idles" at on a typical workday. RDP session open, Firefox, bunch of tray applications like TeamViewer etc. CPU power bounces around from 8-17W by the second. Of course my system is affected by the 125W max AGESA bug in 1.2.0.0, I've...
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    Import passwords into Firefox?

    It should be pretty clear that I fully realize that, and didn't say otherwise. My comment there, in context was that it was the closest thing to what he wanted but removing such an error-prone setup. I don't care if my passwords are on someone else's server. The risk involved, someone or someone...
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    Import passwords into Firefox?

    The closest thing to that other than having a risky/error prone setup like you're running into, is the KeePass database on Dropbox or OneDrive. That grants you a standard format, ~30 days of backup through the cloud provider, and as much security as you can while still gaining redundancy. To...
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    Import passwords into Firefox?

    If you install the old version of Firefox that you had, it could have saved that addons data in Firefox's sync storage. Chance of it. Once you get that out, might be a way to get it into Firefox's Lockbox. I use KeePass on OneDrive and it works well, no reliance on any browser addons.. plenty of...
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    5900x, running hot

    That's still the method if you don't have an equivalent of bios flashback or even if you do, and have to force any rollback. I remember the even older days when there were no BIOS updates. If you got any sort of patch, it came on a floppy disk in the mail. Which I did do a number of times, but...
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    5900x, running hot

    I've stayed on the hunt and I realize I'm the only one here that cares about this issue but my quest may help someone else that's doing a search on this. I did find another user with an MSI board that reported the same 125W limit on AGESA 1.2.0.0. Once he rolled back, it was back to 142W. I'm...
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    5900x, running hot

    Ah wow, I feel tricked! I don't even look or read beta version descriptions on Asus's site.. I'd never install one. My UEFI/BIOS is not something I'm ever going to run a beta on so I missed that. I don't feel my issue is in AGESA but in some sort of configuration by Asus. They probably just...
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    5900x, running hot

    I'm not using either of those, ezflash or biosflashback. AMI's utility is done off a flash drive, it always worked for me in the past. I'm not going to tempt fate though. I'm sticking with what I have and whatever they put out going forward...
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    5900x, running hot

    I spent the last day or so trying to flash back my bios to that older version to test.. I've flashed to older versions before on this board using the AMI DOS utility, and it's not a fun feeling to do.. worked out of course, but this time it failed a security check that wasn't a problem before...
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    5900x, running hot

    I also see your power deviation is 108% during CBR20 runs, which is probably near the margin of error, as I'm nearly exactly at 20% under 142W, and getting 130%. I'm out of ideas other than going to an older BIOS or waiting for a newer one. There's no reason under default BIOS settings why the...
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    5900x, running hot

    I agree, I'm not fretting over the score but I do want it to be right. If it is right, I'd like to hear an explanation as to why they are. Preferably from Asus, who I think is the guilty party here. Going from 7700 (PB) to 8400 (PBO) on this board isn't a change, but I'd prefer 8400 at base PB...
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    5900x, running hot

    I set Ryzen Master back to default for both the advanced and basic view. Back to the same old 125W / 7600 score. I did run CBR using AMD's autoOC profile untouched and back up to 8300. It doesn't seem to have a problem running 200W / 120A, but with that it only matches your base PB performance...
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    5900x, running hot

    I agree, my board should be fine for matching yours with standard PB, but should fall down in comparison with PBO. I'll never hit that 9000 score you have. I think the answer is that Asus is playing with settings / bad defaults. My control mode is "auto overclocking" while yours is just...
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    5900x, running hot

    I'd go big air even if it were significantly worse. I want to be able to never touch it again. With a graphite thermal pad, all I'll have to do is check if the screws are tight on the heatsink.. some year down the road when I have it apart and it comes to mind. I don't think I've seen mine go...
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    5900x, running hot

    It is strange. But I'm hitting over 200W with PBO, and with PBO disabled I'm hitting 142W with the manual setting (just halves my CBR20 score). 200W has to indicate the board is "powerful enough"? My bios changes are also as light touch (mem/fans/wake on LAN), I set defaults to be sure I never...
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    5900x, running hot

    That being your stock result, is what I'm getting with PBO enabled. Last two runs were 7588 (PBO off), and 8456 (PBO on). Yes I am on AGESA 1.2.0.0. The only other non-beta bios available to me was 1.0.8.0 which worked great, in fact it seemed better in some ways, but I don't think I ever ran...
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    5900x, running hot

    Changing this setting allowed it to go to 142W. But then my CBR20 performance overall was cut in half. I think Asus has some bugs or did too little testing on my board. I did a reset to optimized defaults and tested, still the 125% overreport / 125W limit. I do think a combination of setting...
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    5900x, running hot

    Disabled some Asus OC settings, but hwinfo showing 125% Power Reporting Deviation in CBR20 multicore. Which is spot on with the 125W vs 142W difference. Will have to play with more settings, not sure why its overreporting.
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    5900x, running hot

    I'm on the AMD chipset software from 2/4 (2.13.27.501). I think it's unlikely, but I wonder if a format would make any difference at all. What's your Power Reporting Deviation in hwinfo? Mine is sky high, 200% just in normal desktop use. I think there's some sort of "performance" setting that...
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    5900x, running hot

    The answer to the 125W issue is that EDC/TDC limits are being hit first, when not enabling PBO. With PBO enabled, my scores are basically in line with everyone else, at stock I'm lagging a bit, by about 400 points in CBR20.
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    5900x, running hot

    My PBO crash took a long time to occur as well. Due to the nature of how PBO works, high load testing ie. Prime95 isn't enough. 1000 +/- 300 points in CBR20 multicore it doesn't really make sense to me, people are netting ~14% multicore improvements for the chance of instability and mostly, and...
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    5900x, running hot

    No PBO, no monitoring, finally seeing about what I expected out of single thread.
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    5900x, running hot

    I tried increasing this but no change in reported package power consumption in hwinfo from 125W, no multicore gain in cbr20 either. Maybe it's the wrong test (uses avx I believe?). Either way, I would've expected to see something change and it didn't. I think it would require enabling PBO...
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    5900x, running hot

    The only way I'd get a newer board is if the chipset fan was 60mm so I could put or replace any dead fan with a standard Noctua. Then it wouldn't be a big deal. I just didn't want to fuss with a hard to get to, mini or proprietary fan. The 140W default on X570 must just be due to raising the...
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    5900x, running hot

    My understanding was that 125W was the default limit for these CPUs from AMD. That's odd that anything is boosting to 140W if CPU limits are enforced. Maybe it's a way to encourage people to move to X570. I would've, but counted myself lucky to not have the chipset fan. I'll upgrade once there's...
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    5900x, running hot

    Disabling all the PBO, I just got my best single core score yet of 619. PBO on- PBO off- It's fun to play around with. What you were saying before is true though, basically that you don't get a massive amount of performance gain out of PBO, for an awful lot of heat and power. AMD has their...
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    5900x, running hot

    Just did about 5 multicore tests in a row and pulled the voltages and saw another VRM temp reading, this one says 90C. Here was a test done on similar VRM to mine, the Asus Prime X470-Pro. From https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8o8tbx/asus_prime_x470pro_in_the_boxcase_vrm_temperatures/
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    5900x, running hot

    I'm not sure in that case if it was a single run or not. I try to run the multicore test twice, the single core I only run once in a while and just one time, since it takes so long. Just now, I ran a multicore CBR20 test and VRM temps went from 38C to 74C on a single run. While my CPU has a D15...
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    5900x, running hot

    My single core scores kinda suck. Just got 609 in CBR20. Best I've seen was about 614. I have to wonder if it's the 3200MHz memory or just a bad chip for single core performance, or maybe my board. It is an old X470, Asus x470-i. For me, I'm less concerned about games, I'm really looking for...
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    5900x, running hot

    I think you're right about this.. just checked in CPU-Z. 75 48 Fixed, thank you. :)
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