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Though luck my friend. :( What do you plan to hook up the disks to? :)

Good news then i guess! I think I'll buy an intel one as soon as it becomes available locally.

Interesting issue. However it looks like it should work. good news is Intel didn't sabotage the chipset so cards other than graphics won't work. :)

I see that the new Zotac and Intel mini ITX boards have x16 PCIe slot. I was thinking of trying to plug a hardware RAID controller into that. Is there any reports that's such a configuration wouldn't work? Is the slot compatible with other things except graphic cards...

I see that the new Zotac and Intel mini ITX boards have x16 PCIe slot. I was thinking of trying to plug a hardware RAID controller into that. Is there any reports that's such a configuration wouldn't work? Is the slot compatible with other things except graphic cards...

Just get the one intel, dude! Forget about it all... raid and stuff, and start using it! You won't feel any tangible difference between those any way.

I had lots of instances when something wouldn't work quite qood as it used to after defragmentation. I only noticed that on heavily fragmented OS disks. In that light it's better to fragment more often than doing a big defragmentation. My 2c. You are lucky the OS is showing you what is wrong...

I still don't get the Hitachi 2TB drives... what are the main differences? looks like Ultrastar uses less power... But it costs a fortune like RE4 from WD...

Spindown would be my first choice as well. Turning them off physically could cause lots of other problems. Maybe it could work if you installed your OS as AHCI. than maybe it would be gentle to hdds. Treat them as e-sata drives maybe. If not, I wouldn't risk my data by just cutting their power...

But Hitachi has Deskstar and Ultrastar drives. Ultrastar 2TB uses less power and is "built" for 24/7, BUT costs a fair bit more. However, if ultrastar is the only one that supports "TLER" like function than using cheap Deskstar could prove just as dangerous as using consumer green drives from WD...

I use similar bays but without fan turned on. Granted only GP drices are inside. They operate at 40C. The way I did it is only a 12cm fan sucks the air out of the case. All holes are taped shut, so the air gets pulled through the 5in3 cages. :) Server is low power, but still. If I open the case...

So what is the other difference between Deskstar 2TB and Ultarstar 2TB http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/5EDA5472B7792D9D8625760A0003E88B/$file/UltraStarA7K2000_datasheet.pdf...

So hitachi doesn't have the "TLER" issues on HW controllers like others might develop? How much is their power consumption?

I cant find any info on that specific model? Who mkes it? The price is awesome! Will it be available on the site you posted? :)

Non RE WD drives have a risk of dropping out of hardware raid cause of lack of TLER feature on them. How high is that risk? I don't know. IMO high enough not to consider dumping TBs of data on a possibly knowingly faulty setup from day one. The way I see it is this: if you spend that much cash...

^^ hahah! Admittance is the most important step towards the cure! :D

Pretty cool! But how lazy must you be to spend $$$ not to install allover and enjoy a fresh Win install

I bought a SuperTalent Pico USB 4Gb from ebay for a test! It does reported 30MB read and 8-10MB/s writes! same as on the page you posted! Just ordered a 16GB!

Get the Gigabyte G41 or G43 board... they have good undervolting options in BIOS. Ita can save you another 10-15W

A,B,C... feels like I'm watching Black Adder or Monty Phyton. Sorry I can't help. :(

thanks nitrobass:) I remember that a setting permissions for shared folders outside storage pool couldn't have been done through the WHS console like described in a screenshot above. Is that still the case?

So I can click on a user and see all the shared folders he can gain access to? No need to enable his access/denials on each shared folder individually?

do each drive with a long surface test, trash the array for some time with benches and r/W tasks... than redo the long tests.. Use it that way for at leas a week... :)

yes... but aren't Hitachi drives power hogs? Their speed is not that important here IMO.

Statistically looking... yeah thats about what happened to me. I lost 2 of 8 during my initial stress testing and playing around with the array. And mine were 1TB FYPS = RE2 drives! So I'm thinking, for you, the worse is over... but be prepared for unexpected! :(

1. be careful... non-raid edition drives have a high possibility of not playing nice with hardware raid cards due to time out or TLER functions that are disabled in "cheap" consumer intended drives :)

I see it supports new i3 CPUs and G9650 with GPU on their package. But what happens if you use this cpu? Which graphics chip gets used? CPUs or motherboards? I'm asking from a low power usage perspective. Would using a voltage tunable H55 board from gigabyte yield better results?

Don't do an image. reinstall win from scratch is the way do go. That way it will get optimized the proper way

in the bios there must be a "boot from usb" device option. If there isn't well.. :(

pipe dream FTW

I use a 500GB GP drive as a system drive on my server. Doing, torrents and even trying to copy something while it is doing that or extracting... brings the system to an almost halt. I think mine has bad sectors... but I'm to lazy to log onto it locally to check... Do some more real world...

Exxxcellent! :D

just jump to w7 and join us all here in the present! :D

Only because the topic is VERY general. People will ask all sorts of various questions, which is great, but for someone looking for an answer maybe posted here, it's gonna be a search nightmare if the thread grows to mega proportions!:D You better subscribe if you wanna keep tabs on the info...

this should prove to be a very messy thread. :)

I havent noticed that on my 3ware 9650... It added about 10W to the system, but each drive connected added only ~4W each. nothing more :I

You mean officially? :P: lol there must be a written policy on that issue. But my guess is: Unofficially... I bet they sent the data recovered to be sifted through by some computers and than analyzed by someone in some think-thank. I mean honestly... it's an opportunity like few out there to...

can you post it? :) nwm: Users-Properties My Documents-Location-Apply-OK :D

+1 The only upgrade that's actually worth the money! Sad thing is you'll get used to speed in a day or two and wont notice it. But every other machine you work on from that point on will seam slow for some reason! :P

I thought that to but proven to myself to be wrong Your performance statement is very untrue in real world... Even single platter 500gb drives are slow in install and loading apps. the only thing the can compete are big file transfers and synthetic benchmarks that show exactly that strength...