Little Mac owner here. Just saw this! Very impressive! I especially like the way you selected your GPU and placed the HDPlex to allow for win 140mm fans! That has got to be a very quiet and cool setup. I agree with your conclusion. The S4 is a better design for those that don't have any...
I've been down that road before.
Happy to report, that foil works, but it hads some caveats. In the end I went with an aftermarket riser from LiHeat. HDPlex also has an interesting silicon riser here.
There have been a few folks on this forum whom used PCIe riser cables to produce unique form factors. Those riser ribbons stretch a large swatch of high-frequency signals over a large surface area and expose them to EMI interference. That interference is real, and WILL bite you. However, I...
So ghetto-licsciously satisfying. Silverstone take note. That picture says it all.
Glad you finally have a quiet rig, even if you had to engineer it yourself!
I needed to compare ordered a Seasonic 350W TFX.
SPCR and JohnnyGuru both recommend as one of the most quiet and well-built TFX units.
It shows.
Here it is next to the Dell 330W laptop power brick. There are nearly the same size and dimension. TFX is a hair smaller, but taller...
Unless they were unlseeved and unbundled, I don't see how one could frequently snag wires with enough force to dislodge the pins. But I suppose its possible. Sleeve and bundle the wires and that risk is reduced. I agree that the bundled wires will ahve a larger diameter and they will be...
There is nothing special about this TFX unit that would make it attract more dust than any other PSU. You could of course put an 80mm dust filter on it if you wanted. That may make a nice addition, but it doesn't seem required to me. The edges are sharper,no doubt about it. If it is swinging...
I hope you don't mind, but I've narrowed down your post to what I think are valid concerns for most folks.
Additional connectors - Good point. While Molex connectors are sturdier and take more force to connect, they are NOT as convenient as a laptop DC connection. Until someone solves that...
NFC, I'm getting a total volume of 0.87L for the Dell 330W from those measurements, correct? I feel like I'm kicking a dead horse here, but external bricks being "too large" was a major concern at the start of this discussion. I want to get that out of the way before I move onto this PSU...
Thanks Aibohphobia. I think Saper linked to a Windows Central article that didn't have the relevant details about the single fury. Looks like they addressed it in the original article. Right below the photo was this text
Later on, they had this blurb about estimated PSU wattage.
I think...
If you could use pixel measurements to show that the 330W Dell is 0.4L instead of my guess at 0.8L, that would be helpful. Also, where did you get that photo of the single fury Quantum. Maybe the reviewer that took the photo would have adressed why they got a single Fury? If we're lucky the...
Sounds like you're rallying against AMD marketing here. I can sympathize. nVidia did similar things with their 3.5GB 970 GTX fiasco. That's marketing. I don't think it would be fair to say that these marketing tactics mean that they lied about quantum? You think it only had a single Fiji GPU?
Sorry to be short with you, but Project quantum used a dual Fiji GPU. Photos are not measurements. Passive PSUs don't require fans.
I can see that this is becoming a "pro vs con" power brick discussion for you. let's not have that. Many folks are effectively using external laptop adapters...
Historically, that node jump has yielded a real-world 30% power draw reduction. The current flagship cards recommend a 600W PSU. I'm predicting that the next gen flagships will only require a 500W or less PSU. SFX territory.
I do own the 350W Vodoo Firebird, and it is the same volume as SFX-L. One liter. I think that the 330W Dell adapter would be smaller, but not by much. Until someone can provide measurements, lets assume it is 0.8 liters, the same size as SFX, but to your point a different dimension. If you...
The power savings going from 28nm to 16nm/14nm paired with a move from GDDR5 into more efficient HBM2 is going to be bigger than most folks anticipate. Remember, this is the first transistor shrink for GPUs in four years. What to expect? From TSMC's website.
So, sure... Manufacturers...
Do you think that people would be willing to increase the size of their adapter in exchange for a more powerful GPU? Which is larger, an SFX power supply or 300W+ laptop power supply? What's the size difference?
What size coolers do you expect will be on the next generation of cards? Do...
It would be the only nice SFF case with a flagship level GPU.
I'm watching the GPU market. AMD is moving down from 28nm to 16/14nm FinFet. That means reduced TDP across the baord for them. AN area where they are currently struggling. I'm expecting the majority of their line up will now fit...
First, awesome! Next, suggestion .... The wires that ship with HDPlex are usually way too long. Leaving you bundling and cramming unused wire into whatever precious excess space you have. Track down some low profile and short ATX power wires if you can. Good luck and subbed!
Was about to post this over here, but a made a separate thread instead. Why not use a modular ATX bridge.
It looks like the S4 might could fit it and that let you cut out the cost of the HDPLex and use your power supply of choice.
It occurs to me that all of the smallest, most powerful designs produced this past year came way of pairing an mITX graphics card with an internal DC-DC power board instead of a traditional power supply. By now, we are all aware that both AMD and nVidia will have flaghsip cards of the mini...
Tom's covered it here. I wish AMD had engineered the peak draw of this card with us SFF DC-DC folks in mind. They had a knockout for our niche with that shrunken PCB and HBM. I guess we'll all be waiting for Pascal.
I can back up SaperPL on that. A torn PCIe riser cable will exhibit similar symptoms. You can boot and do some things, but you'll get extremely low FPS, reboots, etc. Retest with the GPU inserted directly into the PCIe slot.
The R9 Nano does spike much harder than the 970. Toms reported some brief 437W pulls from the GPU alone. QinX 's thread on SFF is seeing brief spikes over that.
@UpDawg the Would you mind upgrading your power brick to the HP Firebird Voodoo 350W? That is the most powerful power brick...
Just watched the video. Thank you. I sincerely appreciate the legitimacy and professionalism you are bringing to the SFF scene. Your presentation and that case oozes craftsmanship and class. I'm hoping that the S4 will be a huge success for you. Not to mention that the S4 in orange is...
NFC - Just got done watching your FAQ video. It's inspiring to see someone with the drive and design chops to advance SFF form factor to the next logical layout. Thank you. You may be familiar with my Little Mac build which is similar to the S4 mini except for GPU orientation. And that's...
The HDPLEX doesn't have the connections for two cards. If it did, there still is no two-card combo that the HDPLEX is capable of powering that wouldn't be better served by a single card.
Look at the ports on your single slot waterblock of choice. Now imagine connecting two together. Does it...
Esplin2966, the solution is the LiHeat. Go with it.
BUT! In the sake of science, and if you have the time... I would love to see SaperPLs theory tested. I am curious to see if an EMI shielded POWERED riser would net better results than your current unpowered riser. The thought being that if...