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DanNeely said:
Other than as a short term speedbump, I don't think this would help much either. There's enough money to be made scalping them now that the bot runners shouldn't have any trouble getting a few friends/family members in for a cut of the action.
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Could easily blacklist names/addresses after 1 use, or straight up ban people for using bots. But why bother, a sale is a sale to them.
 
So at what point does bb just drop the queue nonsense and just let it be a free for all? If the bots have defeated their queues, all they're doing is making it impossible for humans.

Conspiracy theory time - some bot owners have paid bb to keep the queue system up to ensure they will always get all the product now. I can't think of any other reason keeps the system in place now that it's defeated.
 
Someone posted that stellar claimed 200 cards, which out of an install base of 10000 is a 2% success rate (and you can bet every stellar user was going for these cards). Yes some individual users will have great success but that may be a function of their location as well. If bots have a 2% success rate then I guess fugggetboutit. Also, 200 seems awfully low is that was indeed 70% of the drop? So BB had 300 cards total for all of NA? I'd imagine it to be more on the lines of a few hundred cards per SKU...
 
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undertaker2k8 said:
Someone posted that stellar claimed 200 cards, which out of an install base of 10000 is a 2% success rate (and you can bet every stellar user was going for these cards). Yes some individual users will have great success but that may be a function of their location as well. If bots have a 2% success rate then I guess fugggetboutit. Also, 200 seems awfully low is that was indeed 70% of the drop? So BB had 300 cards total for all of NA? I'd imagine it to be more on the lines of a few hundred cards per SKU...
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I don't doubt anything your saying. I had just posted something that I saw on Twitter, unfounded or not. Stellar definitely has a hype machine behind it though, the more it looks like they succeed the more people are lining up to dump $300 plus $30/month. The reality is that they are succeeding in keeping these cards out of the hands of gamers, otherwise we wouldn't have a thread like this.
 
Fritzz said:
I don't doubt anything your saying. I had just posted something that I saw on Twitter, unfounded or not. Stellar definitely has a hype machine behind it though, the more it looks like they succeed the more people are lining up to dump $300 plus $30/month. The reality is that they are succeeding in keeping these cards out of the hands of gamers, otherwise we wouldn't have a thread like this.
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Agreed though what will be very illuminating is the total volume of cards per drop if someone can find that data. When Amazon had the massive 50k PS5 drop middle of the night few weeks ago (which is in nearly as much demand), it took about an hour to burn through the inventory....
 
LightningCrash said:
I got a win on the TD Discord this morning. They notified on the BB drop before the other discord I'm in. A member of my gaming clan will be playing on the card as soon as it comes in.

There are no affiliate links or any crap like that. They're just in it to get gamers connected to cards.
https://discord.gg/tYfv3PjGxV
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I am a member of this doscord also
 
Archaea said:
You'd think so - but it's relatively trivial for those bot programs to make a bunch of random accounts. And juggling accounts is done in milliseconds, so it wouldn't' make much difference. Limiting 1 per account would help, but it probably wouldn't help for long, as that's a trivial code change.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but what BB is doing now is just feeding botters and not letting anyone else have a chance. The Stellar bot has had the please wait queues completely defeated for at least two months, and BB hasn't fixed it. My discord acquaintance with the Stellar bot says it literally doesn't have a wait queue. So while we are just sitting there at the gray button ready to push yellow when it changes, all the cards are being vacuumed up behind the scenes by the bot. Apparently they can beat all the captcha safeguards too, which is why BB doesn't even implement those - because it takes a human far longer to do a capcha than it does an advanced bot like Stellar. I think one solution would be to implement a new captcha every drop that the bots weren't programmed to bypass. Shouldn't be too hard. Can do Audio, Visual mathematics, make them complicated. Have a picture of a bunch of animals and ask what the fourth mammal is from the left. Play an audio clip of someone whistling a super common nursery rhyme song, and ask what the song was.
A bot couldn't do those types of things out of the gate, and no one could program for all the variations you could make on random questions like that - those types of capchas would be easy to create/modify, but nearly impossible to program for. It would just take a little creativity and interest on the part of Best Buy. But it's far easier for BB to just to let it go as is.
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Linus did a drop and had a game to play and other steps. I think that strtaegy and to be different each time will stop it.
By tghe time Stellar learns its changed.
BB and Amazon likely dont care who buys the cards though
 
Bassman99 said:
Linus did a drop and had a game to play and other steps. I think that strtaegy and to be different each time will stop it.
By tghe time Stellar learns its changed.
BB and Amazon likely dont care who buys the cards though
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Yeah I did that once, first it was "were you listening to this episode because the url is somewhere involves a word that was said", then multiple choice quiz of a bunch of games I never played but was able to guess my way through with only a couple mistakes, all of that to be shown nothing was in stock, meanwhile those who did get cards "verified gamers" most likely will still scalp the cards because who would say no to possibly making a $1000 profit on something that cost them less than $1000?

So stopping bots? But all that does is open up the playing field to non-bot scalpers, similar to those who camp(ed) out at Microcenter every night.

Ultimately the only thing that is going to change things is production of more cards and flood the market to the point where it's not favorable to buy for the option to scalp, unfortunately there's a limit to what manufacturers want to do because they too make more money by making sure there's some level of scarcity to the market.
 
sfsuphysics said:
Yeah I did that once, first it was "were you listening to this episode because the url is somewhere involves a word that was said", then multiple choice quiz of a bunch of games I never played but was able to guess my way through with only a couple mistakes, all of that to be shown nothing was in stock, meanwhile those who did get cards "verified gamers" most likely will still scalp the cards because who would say no to possibly making a $1000 profit on something that cost them less than $1000?

So stopping bots? But all that does is open up the playing field to non-bot scalpers, similar to those who camp(ed) out at Microcenter every night.

Ultimately the only thing that is going to change things is production of more cards and flood the market to the point where it's not favorable to buy for the option to scalp, unfortunately there's a limit to what manufacturers want to do because they too make more money by making sure there's some level of scarcity to the market.
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Yeah it doesnt stop scalpers for sure, but non bot owners can game or scalp lol.
 
PurduEE said:
It gets worse...

My buddy won the shuffle for an EVGA 3070FTW, but the package was "lost" by UPS. I guess it's "select your bonus" season at UPS.
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Bassman99 said:
Any package shipped from Game Stop, Newegg etc...is at risk
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This is no joke. When someone on a discord has mentioned UPS "losing" a GPU they shipped someone, I sometimes ask if they happened to use a Newegg box, and they typically did.

Anecdotal, and UPS handles thousands of Newegg boxes per day without incident (I assume), but I'd suggest turning a Newegg box inside out if you're going to re-use it to ship something valuable. Don't add unnecessary risk.
 
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DPI said:
This is no joke. When someone on a discord has mentioned UPS "losing" a GPU they shipped someone, I sometimes ask if they happened to use a Newegg box, and they typically did.

Anecdotal, and UPS handles thousands of Newegg boxes per day without incident (I assume), but I'd suggest turning a Newegg box inside out if you're going to re-use it to ship something valuable. Don't add unnecessary risk.
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Good idea
 
Fritzz said:
The reality is that they are succeeding in keeping these cards out of the hands of gamers, otherwise we wouldn't have a thread like this.
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There is an unbelievable, mind bogglingly big demand for cards, and plenty of people just watching YT/Twitch live videos or Discord to hammer the sites when stock drops. For every easily faked screenshot I've seen by someone wanting my money, I've also seen hundreds of Ws by regular people saying "I finally got a card'.
 
For those of you looking to get your hands on a 3xxx card quick and don’t mind the prices of 3090’s, you can buy an evga 210 from Adrorama for $50 and step up to the 3090 ftw3 ultra from there. Supposedly only a few day/week wait for that queue at this point.
Only issue is I had to spend $10 for the 5 year extended warranty because it took Adrorama about 2 weeks to get it to me, so it was a few days past the 14 days from purchase requirement for step up.


https://www.adorama.com/ev01gp31313.html

Just submitted mine to the queue today, so we’ll see what happens.
 
sparky1_2007 said:
For those of you looking to get your hands on a 3xxx card quick and don’t mind the prices of 3090’s, you can buy an evga 210 from Adrorama for $50 and step up to the 3090 ftw3 ultra from there. Supposedly only a few day/week wait for that queue at this point.
Only issue is I had to spend $10 for the 5 year extended warranty because it took Adrorama about 2 weeks to get it to me, so it was a few days past the 14 days from purchase requirement for step up.


https://www.adorama.com/ev01gp31313.html

Just submitted mine to the queue today, so we’ll see what happens.
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If that works, you should be able to buy a 210 direct from EVGA:

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The prices/availability really make me a :mad: panda. Currently on a GTX 1070 and have a GTX 970 as a backup for now. Really wanted to move up to GTX 3xxx but no way in the effin' universe am I paying the current extortion $$$. Not buying a pre-built just for the GPU either, local Craigslist where I live is beyond a joke with mostly Intel 2nd/4th gen crap Dell desktops for sale and hardly any GPUs. No way I could find someone here to buy a GPU-less pre-built. (read: this town is full of cheap-ass bastards ROFL)
 
sparky1_2007 said:
For those of you looking to get your hands on a 3xxx card quick and don’t mind the prices of 3090’s, you can buy an evga 210 from Adrorama for $50 and step up to the 3090 ftw3 ultra from there. Supposedly only a few day/week wait for that queue at this point.
Only issue is I had to spend $10 for the 5 year extended warranty because it took Adrorama about 2 weeks to get it to me, so it was a few days past the 14 days from purchase requirement for step up.


https://www.adorama.com/ev01gp31313.html

Just submitted mine to the queue today, so we’ll see what happens.
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Is the step up only fast for the 3090?
Or are the 3060, 3070, and 3080 fast as well?
 
Bassman99 said:
Is the step up only fast for the 3090?
Or are the 3060, 3070, and 3080 fast as well?
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Supposedly only the 3090 is quick. I’ve been in the queue since May 12th stepping up from a 3060 so it definitely isn’t just a matter of days or a week. And I think if it sounds too good to be true (quickly stepping up from GeForce 210 to 3090) it probably is too good to be true.
 
LFaWolf said:
There are some GT 210 with 3 years warranty that could be eligible. https://www.evga.com/products/Produ...mily=GeForce+200+Series+Family&chipset=GF+210

Info from EVGA - https://www.evga.com/support/stepup/
"Register your qualifying 3 Year Warranty product purchased new from an authorized reseller within 14 days of your original purchase date"

Best to contact EVGA to confirm though.
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IMO this explains why the 3yr 210s and 7xx are always sold out new from every authorized reseller, but simultaneously always in abundance on the EVGA B stock page.
 
Thanks for the tip! Going to try it out! Just ordered. What happens if Adorama doesn't ship till late does the 14 days still go in effect the day I order it?

https://www.evga.com/support/stepup/

Did they change it to 90days now to register instead of the 14days?
 
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dcun201 said:
Thanks for the tip! Going to try it out! Just ordered. What happens if Adorama doesn't ship till late does the 14 days still go in effect the day I order it?

https://www.evga.com/support/stepup/

Did they change it to 90days now to register instead of the 14days?
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I ordered the 5 year extended warranty for $10 and it allowed me to step up after the 14 day mark
 
Been seeing more GPU's for sale in FSFT compared to last few months, not sure if good or bad sign???

Hopefully the LHR cards will help.
 
singe_101 said:
How is St. Louis Park, MN's Micro Center for a 3070?
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I've gone in there a few times, I think you have to be very quick or committed to get anything other than a GT 410 or something stupid. Their video cards are always gone.

I think it's "special" that we're almost a year since the RTX 3080 was announced. At this point it makes sense to hold out for next gen.
 
Zinn said:
I've gone in there a few times, I think you have to be very quick or committed to get anything other than a GT 410 or something stupid. Their video cards are always gone.

I think it's "special" that we're almost a year since the RTX 3080 was announced. At this point it makes sense to hold out for next gen.
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That's probably another year out... 2022 late Spring?
 
kirbyrj said:
Maybe longer. Turing to Ampere was over 2 years compared to the ~18 months between cycles that would generally happen.
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I was thinking late 2022 or early 2023 with how things are right now, no real incentive to release the new arch if current arch is selling like hot cakes.
 
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