PG32UQX - ASUS 32" 4K 144 Hz HDR1400 G-Sync Ultimate

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I'm done with PC gaming. Sold my 2080 ti for ~$1730 and an adata m.2 ssd that I had bought recently for gaming storage for ~$385 (bought for $205), I guess it's chasing chia now... I'll be back probably in 1.5-2 years. Tired of waiting for a good gaming monitor which is the key part of the whole system. Also the lack of 3000 series on the market adds to that.
My current phone, the Nubia Red Magic 5G covers all my gaming needs. honestly, and by the way, it has a 144hz OLED display. Personal computer gaming is a relic of the stone age anyway.
I think this monitor is so slow due to the whole display trying to keep up with the slow ass FALD.

If your SSD is chasing chia, it'll probably be dead in a month or three. The write load it does utterly crush the maximum write limits of consumer drives. Not sure what the exact specs were but a few days ago I read an article that put it at 18 days to hit the headline write limit for a consumer drive.
 
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If your SSD is chasing chia, it'll probably be dead in a month or three. The write load it does utterly crush the maximum write limits of consumer drives. Not sure what the exact specs were but a few days ago I read an article that put it at 18 days to hit the headline write limit for a consumer drive.
Well, it really doesn't concern me anymore, whatever happens to that disk. I did think of mining, since I had a total of 5TB of SSD NVMe disk space, but decided against it. I don't like gambling in any shape or form.
 
Well, it really doesn't concern me anymore, whatever happens to that disk. I did think of mining, since I had a total of 5TB of SSD NVMe disk space, but decided against it. I don't like gambling in any shape or form.
Good call not to do it. Anything less than a high end write optimized enterprise SSD won't be able to survive the write loads chia does.
 
If I were wealthier, I'd mine for sure, though.
Mine to get wealthier?
Thsts why I am GPU mining.
Its still a gamble though since values fluctuate so wildly, but in the end I have made at current BTC value $500 in a little over a month
 
Mine to get wealthier?
Thsts why I am GPU mining.
Its still a gamble though since values fluctuate so wildly, but in the end I have made at current BTC value $500 in a little over a month
Chia is pure gamble unlike the ordinary coin mining.
Also I missed the 3000 series and mining with a 2080ti is not interesting enough. Had I a 3090 or two, I'd mine.
 
Ohhh MUUUUHHH GAAAHHHHHH

I'm seriously rethinking this purchase guys
1022 miles is a long way to return lol........
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Were the panel not $3k, I'd say you are picking nits. I'll agree that the image here and the stars video images definitely make the case for OLED. But 32 inch 4k 120hz + OLED does not exist yet.

Aside from this - your other posts on the monitor seem pretty positive. The 'field of stars' situation looks like one that does not come up all that often (but like you, I had to look a bit sideways at what I was seeing).

Is the cost / lack of perfection the main driver for wanting to return it? Or is it one of those monitors that has a few flaws, but is otherwise worth keeping?
 
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According to TFT the display is slow because the cooperation between Nvidia/Asus/Acer involved sourcing a panel that was tolerant of the much higher temperature involved with blasting 1600nits peak and 1000nits full field and performing consistently across that entire temperature range.

Maybe if they lowered their brightness target a faster panel could have been used but this is the current compromise to achieve their HDR PQ target.
 
I'm done with PC gaming. Sold my 2080 ti for ~$1730 and an adata m.2 ssd that I had bought recently for gaming storage for ~$385 (bought for $205), I guess it's chasing chia now... I'll be back probably in 1.5-2 years. Tired of waiting for a good gaming monitor which is the key part of the whole system. Also the lack of 3000 series on the market adds to that.
My current phone, the Nubia Red Magic 5G covers all my gaming needs. honestly, and by the way, it has a 144hz OLED display. Personal computer gaming is a relic of the stone age anyway.
I think this monitor is so slow due to the whole display trying to keep up with the slow ass FALD.
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I keep you up to date on the state of my PC. Congrats on the purchase.
Day 2: I have decided to keep it....we will see how many more times I waffle in the next 27 days.

I had a Rog 2 china phone...it died....bought a rog 3....gaming was fun for ten minutes.....same with the arcade machines I got...fun for ten minutes.....before returning to PC
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According to TFT the display is slow because the cooperation between Nvidia/Asus/Acer involved sourcing a panel that was tolerant of the much higher temperature involved with blasting 1600nits peak and 1000nits full field and performing consistently across that entire temperature range.

Maybe if they lowered their brightness target a faster panel could have been used but this is the current compromise to achieve their HDR PQ target.

Great so if we ever get an HDR4000 monitor that just means it'll be 2008 VA piss slow in order to cope with "temperature ranges"
 
Great so if we ever get an HDR4000 monitor that just means it'll be 2008 VA piss slow in order to cope with "temperature ranges"
They could put in louder fans

Edit - damnit, now I'm thinking of the xenon bulb projectors I used to work on.
Bright... But hot
 
They could put in louder fans

Edit - damnit, now I'm thinking of the xenon bulb projectors I used to work on.
Bright... But hot
Why stop at fans? Water cooling monitors seems like the logical conclusion.


Great so if we ever get an HDR4000 monitor that just means it'll be 2008 VA piss slow in order to cope with "temperature ranges"

Or they find a better liquid color matrix that is responsive while being temperature resistant. Alternatively, as I had stated in a previous post, Asus/Acer/AUO could have reduced the peak brightness targets for better G2G pixel response times. I recall most people being blown away by the brightness with the PG27UQ/x27 so slightly increasing the brightness while retaining the response times may have been the better option. But that’d mean AUO manufacturing two different panels instead of one and thus, likely additional expense. So they went with the cheaper/easier option.

One last thing that some aren’t accounting for is that while it does have 3X (not 4X) the dimming zones, the surface area also grew by ~41% going from 27” to 32”. The net effect is that each dimming zone surface area only shrunk by half on the PG32UQX from the 27” models, not a third. Hence, not as dramatic an improvement as expected by glancing at the dimming zones.

And yeah, the starfield effect was always going to be the worst case scenario and halving your dimming zone area was never gonna solve the issue.
 
Were the panel not $3k, I'd say you are picking nits. I'll agree that the image here and the stars video images definitely make the case for OLED. But 32 inch 4k 120hz + OLED does not exist yet.

Aside from this - your other posts on the monitor seem pretty positive. The 'field of stars' situation looks like one that does not come up all that often (but like you, I had to look a bit sideways at what I was seeing).

Is the cost / lack of perfection the main driver for wanting to return it? Or is it one of those monitors that has a few flaws, but is otherwise worth keeping?
I'm 99% leaning towards keeping it. I love the 32" 4k 144hz form factor. HDR in bright games is awesome and work productivity is very enjoyable on it. If you already have a PG27UQ or X27 then you really don't need this display unless you absolutely want the 32" size......I like the extra 5 inches (what she said)

However, it is a bit jarring when playing RD2 in game nightime and the stars are droppin acid. And it sucks ass to have to disable FALD on desktop SDR, which is not something I had to do on the PG27.

The SDR in desktop is not a deal breaker and I have 48cx for dark games.
 
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I'm 99% leaning towards keeping it. I love the 32" 4k 144hz form factor. HDR in bright games is awesome and work productivity is very enjoyable on it. If you already have a PG27UQ or X27 then you really don't need this display unless you absolutely want the 32" size......I like the extra 5 inches (what she said)

However, it is a bit jarring when playing RD2 in game nightime and the stars are droppin acid. And it sucks ass to have to disable FALD on desktop SDR, which is not something I had to do on the PG27.

The SDR in desktop is not a deal breaker and I have 48cx for dark games.

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People seem to be buying them up even at scalped prices. The sold from Amazon disappeared within 5 minutes of my order being placed so seems to either be very limited quantity or high demand.

If this thing was slightly faster in terms of pixel response I imagine it's a monitor one can keep for 3-5 years.
 
People seem to be buying them up even at scalped prices. The sold from Amazon disappeared within 5 minutes of my order being placed so seems to either be very limited quantity or high demand.

If this thing was slightly faster in terms of pixel response I imagine it's a monitor one can keep for 3-5 years.
I would imagine supply is very low. Most of the microcenters only had two in stock, I think the most I saw was four at one location. ShopBlt is showing only 2 coming in for over 8 pre-orders.

Also, its a new tech big ticket item and if people are paying 2-3 grand for 3080 & 3090s I would imagine a few of them have the coin to drop on a display to complement.

I think this monitor is going to be a pretty limited run
 
According to TFT the display is slow because the cooperation between Nvidia/Asus/Acer involved sourcing a panel that was tolerant of the much higher temperature involved with blasting 1600nits peak and 1000nits full field and performing consistently across that entire temperature range.

Maybe if they lowered their brightness target a faster panel could have been used but this is the current compromise to achieve their HDR PQ target.
So instead of reining in the specs to say 1000 nits peak, they decided that shit pixel response times were an ok compromise? It always amazes me that companies with decades of experience building monitors do this shit. You'd think it would be constant progress rather than one step forward, two steps back. Maybe next time they don't give the specs to marketing before they can actually achieve that without severe compromise.

I mean I have no complaints about the HDR image quality on my LG OLED even if it can do what, 750-800 nits peak and only on fairly small areas of the screen? It's that per pixel local dimming contrast that helps the image quality look great.
 
The slower pixels is not the end of the world people. I'm just just as bad at games on this thing as I am with the 48CX which has beastly pixels lmao.
Seriously though, I am probably actually a bit better on FPS on this thing vs the oled since the 32 size does not overwhelm my senses.

When I am playing BF4, PUBG, Halo CE and BFV...pixel speed is the last thing on my mind.

People are making a bigger issue out of the pixel speed then they need to. IMHO this displays bigger issue is the fact that its FALD is not much better than its
smaller older brother PG27UQ.

But what I do I know...I'm the only one who owns this damn thing right now lol
 
So instead of reining in the specs to say 1000 nits peak, they decided that shit pixel response times were an ok compromise? It always amazes me that companies with decades of experience building monitors do this shit. You'd think it would be constant progress rather than one step forward, two steps back. Maybe next time they don't give the specs to marketing before they can actually achieve that without severe compromise.

I mean I have no complaints about the HDR image quality on my LG OLED even if it can do what, 750-800 nits peak and only on fairly small areas of the screen? It's that per pixel local dimming contrast that helps the image quality look great.
1400-1600 nits is a lot of fun though.....like makes ya giggle like little school girl when laZor beams are sizzling out of the screen past your head!
 
So instead of reining in the specs to say 1000 nits peak, they decided that shit pixel response times were an ok compromise? It always amazes me that companies with decades of experience building monitors do this shit.
You write this as if companies are only serving gamerz as customers (and CS-GO influenced 'mo framez is mo bettah' players who cannot comprehend any value for a monitor other than as a frame pusher).

Three companies came together to put forth a gaming capable HDR display.

Contrast this with the gaming displays with 'shit HDR' that everyone pans.
 
The slower pixels is not the end of the world people. I'm just just as bad at games on this thing as I am with the 48CX which has beastly pixels lmao.
Seriously though, I am probably actually a bit better on FPS on this thing vs the oled since the 32 size does not overwhelm my senses.

When I am playing BF4, PUBG, Halo CE and BFV...pixel speed is the last thing on my mind.

People are making a bigger issue out of the pixel speed then they need to. IMHO this displays bigger issue is the fact that its FALD is not much better than its
smaller older brother PG27UQ.

But what I do I know...I'm the only one who owns this damn thing right now lol
I'd be more concerned with the speed of the FALD. The biggest issue that most FALD implementations are still dealing with is how slow they transition. On some displays it can be as much as 60ms. That is one of the things that NVIDIA in partnering with ASUS and Acer have really focused on and I'm glad they're doing it.
 
I'd be more concerned with the speed of the FALD
I'm not sure where I ran across it - but there was a suggestion for using a fast TN panel with just on/off pixels as the back light for a gaming IPS display - put forth as a cheap solution to expensive FALD and finer lighting control than merely 1100 zones or so.

From what I've seen - the best FALD is centimeter scale atm and getting to pixel scale would certainly challenge OLED
 
You write this as if companies are only serving gamerz as customers (and CS-GO influenced 'mo framez is mo bettah' players who cannot comprehend any value for a monitor other than as a frame pusher).

Three companies came together to put forth a gaming capable HDR display.

Contrast this with the gaming displays with 'shit HDR' that everyone pans.

Look I am glad that Asus is trying to push the HDR experience even further with this monitor. But come on there had to be another way to do it. Put a bigger heatsink on the backside of the monitor to cope with the increased power draw/temperature instead of neutering response times? Hell even Panasonic uses a heatsink on their OLED TVs to achieve 1000 nits.
 
I'm not sure where I ran across it - but there was a suggestion for using a fast TN panel with just on/off pixels as the back light for a gaming IPS display - put forth as a cheap solution to expensive FALD and finer lighting control than merely 1100 zones or so.

From what I've seen - the best FALD is centimeter scale atm and getting to pixel scale would certainly challenge OLED
Dual panel designs have been around for a while at the R&D level. IIRC the biggest problem is that they draw a lot more power because even at their most open state stacking 2 LCDs blocks a lot more of the backlight than just one.

Also, I don't think you'd want to use a TN for a filter panel. You'd get all it's viewing angle limits even if running in B&W mode. Better to go with either VA for the higher contrast, or IPS for being faster than VA even for the brightness panel.
 
You write this as if companies are only serving gamerz as customers (and CS-GO influenced 'mo framez is mo bettah' players who cannot comprehend any value for a monitor other than as a frame pusher).

Three companies came together to put forth a gaming capable HDR display.

Contrast this with the gaming displays with 'shit HDR' that everyone pans.
Everyone benefits from faster response times. When these same companies have managed to push those quite low for IPS panels it is frustrating to see one of the most expensive monitors on the market not keep up. At this price point pretty much everything about it should be top tier.
 
Reigning in brightness to 1000nits on this display isn't what I'd call progress. It's been 3 years since it's 27 inch predecessors launched and releasing the same thing but @ 32" after all that time was likely too much of a side step for both Nvidia and Asus.

1400nits is a nice marketing bullet point where as if it was faster in terms of pixel response, it would have gone completely unotticed.

I dunno if I'm the only one looking at it this way but this and the PG27UQ before it are basically the only displays pushing the PC monitor market forward.
 
32" after all that time was likely too much of a side step for both Nvidia and Asus.
I'm convinced that they're all nervous about 32. Like they 'think' the market is ready... but the don't 'know' the market is ready. My guess is that shortly after the 'this-gen' GPUs hit the home PC market in numbers that the real demand for 32 will show up. For now, its guys like us who know what we want and who are barely restraining ourselves from standing in front of their Corporate Offices and shouting "HURRY THE FUCK UP!!!!"
 
Reigning in brightness to 1000nits on this display isn't what I'd call progress. It's been 3 years since it's 27 inch predecessors launched and releasing the same thing but @ 32" after all that time was likely too much of a side step for both Nvidia and Asus.

1400nits is a nice marketing bullet point where as if it was faster in terms of pixel response, it would have gone completely unotticed.

I dunno if I'm the only one looking at it this way but this and the PG27UQ before it are basically the only displays pushing the PC monitor market forward.
I think LG has lit a fire under their ass ass well wiith 48cx
 
I'm convinced that they're all nervous about 32. Like they 'think' the market is ready... but the don't 'know' the market is ready. My guess is that shortly after the 'this-gen' GPUs hit the home PC market in numbers that the real demand for 32 will show up. For now, its guys like us who know what we want and who are barely restraining ourselves from standing in front of their Corporate Offices and shouting "HURRY THE FUCK UP!!!!"
I know a dude that drove 1022 miles to get one of these PG32's cause he was so fed up......
 
Looks like Microcenter is almost out of stock across the country so I said screw it and reserved the last one in Atlanta for pickup tomorrow.
Bro....I was just about to order that one, tell the wife I have to run out to Walmart and get some AAA batteries and then on the way back home take a 1022 mile detour and pick it up. FUCK.
 
So if a game or movie is made for 1000 nits peak brightness, what does this monitor do with it's extra brightness capability? Does it not use it at all or does it overbrighten the entire picture? Something like making 1600 nits the new 1000 and working down from there. I know that's what some Samsung TVs used to do with their extra brightness levels.
 
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