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good comments, but depending on how you define "small server", I am skeptical that amd isnt attractive vs intel.
good comments, but depending on how you define "small server", I am skeptical that amd isnt attractive vs intel.
there are many components to tco, & intel just seem laughably behind on so many metrics. Any evaluation will eventually encounter a deal breakingly bad one.
any cost effective system for smaller enterprise must embrace Hyper Converged Infrastructure - its just so liberating & cost effective - just add another host to expand - intead of replace with a bigger box
the various hosts appear as one manageable unit.
amd seem to have a killer edge - the key being where servers get primitive - the interconnect speeds between hosts.
we see amd get deal after deal in exaserver contests, & that same magic applies in HCI on a smaller scale
if by small u mean they have a small server for this and a small server for that - i suspect thats a very uneconomic model from here on - hci will not only be best, but cheapest.
I do not know the large S&P 500 business scene, but as a small business owner myself, I would argue that consolidation of most cores to one 1U -rack is very important to small and medium size companies. The rent of 1U -rack at the city centre (inside the bedrock and backed up daily to the cloud somewhere) can run from USD 100 up to 300 per month (that does not include data and electricity, only the space of 1U server) > with such a high rental cost, you would want to consolidate as much as possible, because it would be crazy to hold 4 separate servers and pay USD 100-300 per month/each, when probably the whole sh*t hardware is not worth 12 months rent.By small I mean anything with 16 cores or fewer, these days typically 1P servers with a bunch of I/O and drives used for things such as consolidating services, storage, or networking. Milan isn't really viable at that level - a 155W part built out of five dies that idles at 100W is a poor choice for sporadically-loaded servers. Intel has some nice parts in this range, for example, the 5128R is a 125W part with good turbo, a reasonable idle, and a good price.
I do not know the large S&P 500 business scene, but as a small business owner myself, I would argue that consolidation of most cores to one 1U -rack is very important to small and medium size companies. The rent of 1U -rack at the city centre (inside the bedrock and backed up daily to the cloud somewhere) can run from USD 100 up to 300 per month (that does not include data and electricity, only the space of 1U server) > with such a high rental cost, you would want to consolidate as much as possible, because it would be crazy to hold 4 separate servers and pay USD 100-300 per month/each, when probably the whole sh*t hardware is not worth 12 months rent.
Still can. Modern consolidation rates, you'll still cut license count SIGNIFICANTLY. Last DC design I did took 84 nodes down to 18 - even doing that on EPYC (would have been... 14 I think, due to cluster constraints) would have been WAY fewer licenses than the original 84x2.Man I wish VMware didn't crap on licensing in v7 to core count vs physical socket, but I as we have a bunch of xeon v4 boxes that could consolidate to one.
They have SOC based Epyc for that - low cost, 8 core or so. Generally ITX sized boards.Right, unless your servers are incredibly old though you are probably going to consolidate into something with 48 or 64 cores, and a single-socket AMD system makes a lot of sense there. But there are times where you aren't looking for maximum density, for example you might want redundant bare-metal firewall(s), a dedicated SAN that provides central storage for your virtualized infrastructure, or machines that have specialized expansion cards, and that's where AMD sort of gets pushed out of the market.
We just bought a v7 license and we were still able to purchase it per socket, we bought two 1 socket licenses for the dual CPUs in that box. Got it through CDW (technically CDW-G). Is licensing per core the new vmware standard now?Man I wish VMware didn't crap on licensing in v7 to core count vs physical socket, but I as we have a bunch of xeon v4 boxes that could consolidate to one.
Each socket up to 32 coresWe just bought a v7 license and we were still able to purchase it per socket, we bought two 1 socket licenses for the dual CPUs in that box. Got it through CDW (technically CDW-G). Is licensing per core the new vmware standard now?
Each socket up to 32 cores
Yeah. Big selling point early on was "cut your VMware licensing costs in half! Single socket, 64 cores!"Ah, that makes sense. That box has 2 32 core processors in it.