I Bought a 6800 / 6800 XT Today!

I Bought a 6800 / 6800 XT Today!

  • I bought a Radeon 6800.

    Votes: 18 3.6%

  • I bought a Radeon 6800 XT.

    Votes: 18 3.6%

  • I bought one of each or two or more!

    Votes: 3 0.6%

  • I tried to buy a 6800 / 6800 XT and Failed.

    Votes: 197 39.2%

  • Did not try to buy one at all.

    Votes: 267 53.1%
  • Total voters
    503
TaintedSquirrel said:
Looks like AMD launched a cheap, impressive reference card in low supply to trick consumers into paying obscene AIB prices... Where have I hard that before?
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Dont worry the word on the street is AMD is busy “backloading” the channel and it’s all NVIDIAs fault. Not only that, we were told AMD takes care of it’s AIB partners better than NVIDIA and was giving them ample supply. LOL! Maybe we’ll get some investigative reporting to find out where all the backloaded 6800/6800XTs went! Im sure someone here has 25 years of experience in the industry and will let us know asap.
 
I agree that this should be kept in perspective, and yeah we are only a week or so out now from the original ref launch. Tweetgate aka Frank didn't really do much to help keep that perspective considering how things have turned out in the short term here.

It would've been nice had AMD been able to capitalize on the hole in the market left by Nvidia but that just hasn't come to pass. They've got the same problem. Can't crank them out fast enough. Not even close.
 
Supply blows. Demand is way up. Prices are too. Its best to just wait it out and game on med settings or go through all those older titles in the back log. So many people are losing their minds over GPU and hardware availability in general and it really isn't the worst thing to happen is it? This year right? Hey I love instant gratification as much as anyone but have some patience, eat some turkey , pour a drink and chill out.

Well my dumb ass volunteered to work today so making a few extra bucks is another option I guess!
Happy Turkey Day my fellow Americans and Happy Thursday everyone else on here too. 🤘
 
I sold my 3090 to a personal friend at my cost, and am on a backup 5500XT GPU starting this weekend. I'll 'survive' this somehow I suppose lol. I'm trying to get a 6800xt as a hold over for a aib 6900xt, but I am unable to camp discord during the day because work. So, it may be 2-3 months before I can score one.

Thankful for the 5950x order I got in on amazon though, and the fact I have so many other non tech related things going for me in life right now.
 
FrgMstr said:
Cannot blame you for that at all. Smart position. Bottom line, there will not be enough cards to go round.

I have put off any thoughts of a new build till Q2 very likely. 2080 Ti is still doing just fine anyway. :)
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Ouch. These are words I didn't want to hear. I will f5 with vigor however until I get a card.
 


Looks like the red devil is THE 6800xt to have.

Steve from HWUB also says margins are razer slim on this product compared to previous products and as a result prices for AIB cards are astronomical. He is stating it is not retailers upcharging. Thoughts on this FrgMstr ?
 
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Looks like the red devil is THE 6800xt to have.

Steve from HWUB also says margins are razer slim on this product compared to previous products and as a result prices for AIB cards are astronomical. He is stating it is not retailers upcharging. Thoughts on this FrgMstr ?
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I really wanted to get a liquid devil but if they are marking up this much. I’ll grab a 3080 evga with block for 809. Whenever I can get on the wait list for one lol
 
Makeroflostsouls said:
I really wanted to get a liquid devil but if they are marking up this much. I’ll grab a 3080 evga with block for 809. Whenever I can get on the wait list for one lol
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Same. Only thing that sucks is the 6800xt seems to hit astronomical clocks/has huge headroom so I really think navi2 would be more fun to play with.
 
I've been on and off the forums for a while as a lurker, never posted. I don't like to post "brag" crap, but I am one of the handful of folks who got the XFX AIB card yesterday on Amazon (I'm voter #9 on the poll). Truth be told it was pure luck, and I'm as surprised by anyone I got one.

I've been reading through this with a lot of interest. The unique insight we get here is certainly helpful in maintaining my perspective, especially as I have a thimble of understanding of supply chain and manufacturing. These coupled together have really lent to a better understanding of what's going on. I obviously can't dispute what's been said, but as an executive myself, I can say that AMDs handling of the situation has not been good for their image. I understand AMD can't out NV, and neither will either of them post actual production schedules, active pipeline, or delivered product. However, AMD watched the fiasco that was the NV launch and should have taken several lessons to heart. Lisa (or someone) should have come out and said: "Hey, we see the demand. We new it would be high, but couple with the 'other' failed launch and our new parity with our competitor, we are going to see demand that completely outstrips our ability to produce chips. So while we are producing chips and delivering them as fast as we can, it's going to feel like there is no supply. However, these are the things we are going to do:
  1. We are instructing our channels to take pre-orders on a first come, first served basis. We will designate fully half (or 2/3rds or whatever) to pre-orders and will fulfill promised shipments so your favorite retailer will have a good idea when you can expect your order to be delivered. It may take some time, but we will get you your items.
  2. We will have staggered releases of product each week, with notice of when these will be so you can be prepared if you want to try and grab one in the wild.
  3. We will work with our partner retailers to implement full anti-bot measures, and we will go after anyone scalping. While there is always a measure of this in a capitalist market, we will do everything in our power to make it difficult, painful, and unprofitable for those who wish to take advantage of the current situation."
Truth be told, it wouldn't take a lot of effort for them to do this, generate an enormous amount of goodwill (which does actually impact the bottom line), and make NV look even dumber. Hopefully AMD will come to their marketing senses after Thanksgiving weekend here and we'll get some positive message.

Anxiously awaiting my XFX and still trying to get my 59xxX to complete my build, Happy Thanksgiving.
Rael
 
Currently using a 30 inch 1080p 60 htz LG telly as my monitor with my trusty rx480 8gb ( great card even if old) No way am i paying 750 plus euro for a card when my current one is giving me 70fps plus in bf 5 etc and a solid 50 in AC Valhalla on High. Guess my 3700x is doing the heavy lifting and I have not even clocked it over 4 g. not like my old Core 2 quad with a 50% oc LOL. We seem to pay a 50% premium here in Europe for components. so a 500 dollar card ends up here being 750+ euro, I see a 3090 on Caseking.de up at 2000 euro WTF ! Un less you have a very capable monitor the cards from the last 3 years are over kill.
 
FrgMstr UFD Tech calling bologna on you now. Seems a lot of people are eager to make the same mistake... quote you about "AMD back loading their supply" and "decent supply through Q4" and "impossible for AMD to fill the void Nvidia left," then immediately expect to be swimming in supply on day/week one. :facepalm:

 
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SPARTAN VI said:
FrgMstr UDFTech calling bologna on you now. Seems a lot of people are eager to make the same mistake... quote you about "AMD back loading their supply" and "decent supply through Q4" and "impossible for AMD to fill the void Nvidia left," then immediately expect to be swimming in supply on day/week one. :facepalm:

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Funny, some people can't read. Never said huge stocks on the 25th, and I am pretty sure I said the quarter will be "backloaded" and ramping. Wouldn't it be awesome if tech news guys actually reached out for comment? That would be too hard though....right?
 
We should see AIB card models at MSRP around 11/30. I see the press is up in arms. I guess they still have not figured out that AIBs do not lead with their lowest cost cards on review day.
 
FrgMstr said:
Funny, some people can't read. Never said huge stocks on the 25th, and I am pretty sure I said the quarter will be "backloaded" and ramping. Wouldn't it be awesome if tech news guys actually reached out for comment? That would be too hard though....right?
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Thats tech tubers for you. Emotions run wild and they overtakes their brain. 25th was a phantom date tech tubers made up, they pretty much made review embargo hard launch for AIB cards but no AIB or AMD even said such a thing lol.

Second as you mentioned it boggles my mind that tech tubers are out to bash AMD a week after launch when nvidia has had 2 months. MLID is probably the best one with cool head, he kept saying yesterday that tech tubers and people are losing perspective. He basically confirms what you have said that they will have more cards flow through and will get better through December. But will everyone be able to get one? nope same argument as yours that demand will still be high. But the chances to get one will be there and better then Nvidia was during first month and half.
 
FrgMstr said:
We should see AIB card models at MSRP around 11/30. I see the press is up in arms. I guess they still have not figured out that AIBs do not lead with their lowest cost cards on review day.
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So damn true. They all are mad about the TOP TIER model for each AIB. I mean seriously there is stuff under it lol.
 
Well guys my amazon bot picked me up a gigabyte 6800xt reference card. Supposed to arrive wed. dec 16th.

The seller is 'Amazon.com Services LLC'.
The price? $799

Looks like amazon be joining up with scalpers my bois.

I am trying to get a price match/reduction, but they are fighting it since the newegg listing is not on their site. They only want to match prices that are on their website.
 
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Riptide_NVN said:
Well guys my amazon bot picked me up a gigabyte 6800xt reference card. Supposed to arrive wed. dec 16th.

The seller is 'Amazon.com Services LLC'.
The price? $799

Looks like amazon be joining up with scalpers my bois.

I am trying to get a price match/reduction, but they are fighting it since the newegg listing is not on their site. They only want to match prices that are on their website.
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You might be able to use your credit card's price protection, assuming you used credit. I know a lot of retail banks stopped offering this, but it looks like Capital One, Navy FCU, and Wells Fargo are some big box banks that still offer price protection. Here's WFB's policy, "Price Protection. If you see eligible items advertised for less within 60 days of purchase, you can be reimbursed the difference up to $250.00 per item and up to $1,000 a year."
 
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I had a 6800 in my Amazon cart on launch day and got very close about 5 times with an XFX 6800XT on Newegg but Newegg is garbage and always has been. As much I want to pay a premium to get a card now, I refuse to pay more then MSRP for a "used" card out of principle and will wait until I can get a card directly from retail.
 
Priller said:
I had a 6800 in my Amazon cart on launch day and got very close about 5 times with an XFX 6800XT on Newegg but Newegg is garbage and always has been. As much I want to pay a premium to get a card now, I refuse to pay more then MSRP for a "used" card out of principle and will wait until I can get a card directly from retail.
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Newegg used to be primo.

It's been trash since it got bought out by a Chinese company.
 
I did have two interesting discussions last night that really caught me off guard. Apparently AMD AIBs were running into difficulties getting air freight out of China. I was told that Apple has sucked up a huge allocation on that service with new iPhone shipments. And Apple swings a bigger stick than any AIBs, or AMD, or NVIDIA for that matter. Two AIBs told me they ran into shipping delays and had to pay premiums to move cards, as much as 3X cost to ship. So just another thing driving retail costs up.
 
SPARTAN VI said:
@FrgMstr UDFTech calling bologna on you now. Seems a lot of people are eager to make the same mistake... quote you about "AMD back loading their supply" and "decent supply through Q4" and "impossible for AMD to fill the void Nvidia left," then immediately expect to be swimming in supply on day/week one. :facepalm:
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FYI, email sent. We will see if he responds or not, or cares for any clarification on my post which he seemed to no fully understand.
 
FrgMstr said:
I did have two interesting discussions last night that really caught me off guard. Apparently AMD AIBs were running into difficulties getting air freight out of China. I was told that Apple has sucked up a huge allocation on that service with new iPhone shipments. And Apple swings a bigger stick than any AIBs, or AMD, or NVIDIA for that matter. Two AIBs told me they ran into shipping delays and had to pay premiums to move cards, as much as 3X cost to ship. So just another thing driving retail costs up.
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The normal cost of air freight during covid is around double with the reduction of cargo space previously used on passenger planes.
 
FrgMstr said:
I did have two interesting discussions last night that really caught me off guard. Apparently AMD AIBs were running into difficulties getting air freight out of China. I was told that Apple has sucked up a huge allocation on that service with new iPhone shipments. And Apple swings a bigger stick than any AIBs, or AMD, or NVIDIA for that matter. Two AIBs told me they ran into shipping delays and had to pay premiums to move cards, as much as 3X cost to ship. So just another thing driving retail costs up.
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Interesting... with the shutdowns I'd expect there would be a surplus of shipping available.
 
FrgMstr said:
I did have two interesting discussions last night that really caught me off guard. Apparently AMD AIBs were running into difficulties getting air freight out of China. I was told that Apple has sucked up a huge allocation on that service with new iPhone shipments. And Apple swings a bigger stick than any AIBs, or AMD, or NVIDIA for that matter. Two AIBs told me they ran into shipping delays and had to pay premiums to move cards, as much as 3X cost to ship. So just another thing driving retail costs up.
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Now this does not surprise me at all. Apple has enough cash to pretty much buy anyone they choose to, and with upcoming releases and holdiay shopping, seeing them tie up shipping channels should be an expected outcome. It's probably not been noticeable until this year.
 
SPARTAN VI said:
FrgMstr UFD Tech calling bologna on you now. Seems a lot of people are eager to make the same mistake... quote you about "AMD back loading their supply" and "decent supply through Q4" and "impossible for AMD to fill the void Nvidia left," then immediately expect to be swimming in supply on day/week one. :facepalm:

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FrgMstr said:
Funny, some people can't read. Never said huge stocks on the 25th, and I am pretty sure I said the quarter will be "backloaded" and ramping. Wouldn't it be awesome if tech news guys actually reached out for comment? That would be too hard though....right?
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FrgMstr said:
FYI, email sent. We will see if he responds or not, or cares for any clarification on my post which he seemed to no fully understand.
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Worth noting, he already got back with me and we are having a discussion. Good on him.
 
FrgMstr said:
Worth noting, he already got back with me and we are having a discussion. Good on him.
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I'm glad. Personally indifferent to that channel, but I empathize with the dude because he's moved back to the US for his young son's treatment (who is suffering from a genetic disorder SYNGAP1). He seems to have a good head on his shoulders, but still sensationalizes to get that precious YouTube click/ad revenue (algorithm slavery). It's a bit of a crutch, tbh.
 
I'll be happy if I get a 6800XT by March. I'm certainly not surprised by the childish responses of the masses of spoiled rotten adolescents these days. The current generation just needs to grow the fuck up and get over themselves. I laugh at these fools daily and thank my father for teaching me to exercise patience when thing don't go my way.
 
SPARTAN VI said:
FrgMstr UFD Tech calling bologna on you now. Seems a lot of people are eager to make the same mistake... quote you about "AMD back loading their supply" and "decent supply through Q4" and "impossible for AMD to fill the void Nvidia left," then immediately expect to be swimming in supply on day/week one. :facepalm:

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UFD Tech? Never heard of her.
His video comes off like one of those "Pissed-Off guy in a truck" Snarkey, angry and trying to groom every listener to jump to his conclusion.
 
learners permit said:
I'll be happy if I get a 6800XT by March. I'm certainly not surprised by the childish responses of the masses of spoiled rotten adolescents these days. The current generation just needs to grow the fuck up and get over themselves. I laugh at these fools daily and thank my father for teaching me to exercise patience when thing don't go my way.
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learners permit said:
I'll be happy if I get a 6800XT by March. I'm certainly not surprised by the childish responses of the masses of spoiled rotten adolescents these days. The current generation just needs to grow the fuck up and get over themselves. I laugh at these fools daily and thank my father for teaching me to exercise patience when thing don't go my way.
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We had a talk and he committed to correcting the spin on my words. All good.

I have watched Brett for a couple of years now, and his content dramatically changed due to issues with his son's illness. (I know how that goes, so I am sympathetic.) That said, he gets big kudos from me for just listening. I was not expecting for it to be publicly "corrected." Not a lot of YTers that will still go that extra mile.
 
NKD said:
So damn true. They all are mad about the TOP TIER model for each AIB. I mean seriously there is stuff under it lol.
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To be fair, aside from Red Devil,all the other seem like the stock card with a tiny mild OC and 2c cooler thermals that doesn't make a lick of difference in real terms but charge $100+ more for the same performance as the reference card. If that means top tier, I'm afraid to know what comes after. An underclocked 6800XT for only $30 more than reference, maybe?

Stock card is too good, and AIBs aren't doing anything to justify the prices they're charging over reference MSRP
 
Could it be that the reference cooler this time around is actually good? I thought gamersnexus was suggesting to avoid it on their tear down video.

And yet here we are. I'd love a red devil too, but it doesn't matter when they aren't in stock. Who cares what the price is at that point.
 
5150Joker said:
I’m glad he’s doing reviews now, he’s on another level compared to your avg or even top hardware reviewer. He also gives an honest no bullshit opinion, no bias or shilling.
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Great review, and exactly my thoughts. Holy shit this thing is fast. I'm a 1440P/144 type, and it's damn perfect.

I did some tinkering with it last night.. and well, lol.

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What I want to know is how 1. driver optimizations will improve with time for AMD, 2. once developers start developing with AMD in mind vs nVidia only (we have some examples already such as Dirt 5, Forza Horizon I believe, Godfall, a couple more I'm forgetting now where 6800XT does much better than 3080). 3. How their DLSS equivalent will shape up and if we'd see it soon (hopefully at least next year, with DLSS 2.0 equivalent form in gains). The fact that this console generation is all AMD, means developers will have to learn the ins and outs of AMD approach, and will be able to apply this knowledge to current and future games, to then transfer to the PC side.

I'd say, as a launch product with launch drivers, according to benchmarks from reviewers, the card goes head to head with 3080 -- which had months of driver optimizations and developers mainly developing with nVidia gear in mind, compared to the 6800XT. So it's incredibly promising. I have a feeling in 6-12 months the 6800XT will consistently beat the 3080 by even greater margains perhaps! Thoughts?
 
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I don’t know about driver optimizations. I already encountered quite a few problems with AMD drivers. After every wake from sleep I have the mouse lag problem. Half the time I wake it up from sleep my 3rd monitor goes from 1440p to 640x360 and won’t revert back without a restart. Also half of the time a restart results in a blank screen. I kind of have regrets but I already bought the water block too. I am going to give it another month or two and see if updates resolve these issues
 
///AMG said:
I don’t know about driver optimizations. I already encountered quite a few problems with AMD drivers. After every wake from sleep I have the mouse lag problem. Half the time I wake it up from sleep my 3rd monitor goes from 1440p to 640x360 and won’t revert back without a restart. Also half of the time a restart results in a blank screen. I kind of have regrets but I already bought the water block too. I am going to give it another month or two and see if updates resolve these issues
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Good to know, keep us updated. Although what you describe are a minor inconvenience and not really dealbreakers imo.
 
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