MistaSparkul
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FYI I just tested BFI at 100Hz and although it works totally fine, the results aren't as clean looking as 120Hz as expected.
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Thanks!....now I notice that too on the cx48, now can un see....ignorance is bliss.....
hdmi 2.0 only goes up to 18gbps of bandwidth.
Speaking of which, anyone know of a bandwidth calculator to see what could theoretically support what resolution and color bit depth?
This one seems like the numbers are off.
https://k.kramerav.com/support/bwcalculator.asp
Looking for something where you could set the paramaters you are looking for, and figure out the missing variable from there.
So if you want 2560x1440 resolution, 10 bit color for hdr, 4:4:4, what framerate could you get to within the bandwidth budget of hdmi 2.0?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_HDR10_video
You can do 1440p 120Hz 4:2:2 HDR without issues. You can do 4k 60Hz 4:2:2 HDR. But HDMI 2.0 simply doesn't have the bandwidth for HDR @ 4k 120Hz at any bit depth.
This dude nailed it, finally
Sorry CX users
How was that achieved?
You serious? I thought with that adapter you can't do FULL RGB? do you have a source link to that thread?With the Club3D adapter mentioned in this thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED/comments/ho1aal/how_to_get_4k_120hz_on_an_lg_c9_today/You serious? I thought with that adapter you can't do FULL RGB? do you have a source link to that thread?
This dude nailed it, finally
Sorry CX users you will have to wait for the hdmi2.1 cards, looks like C9 is first off the ranks with 4k@120 4:4:4
The G9 does not use a FALD. It is edge-lit with 10 zones. If it had a FALD it would cost at least $1,000 more than it does.the OLED gets more crisp the farther away (within reason) you sit
That image is taken sidelong and at way too near of a viewing distance to be fair. Cameras also have their own bias as was mentioned up front. I wouldn't sit closer than 40" to 48" (4') away viewing a 48" and as a gaming/media monitor it would be directly viewed from that viewing perspective.
Yes it even looks pale compared to the 43" on either side of it because they are 4200:1 and 6100:1 contrast 60hz VA TVs with the accompanying black depths while the 32" LG gk850g is lucky to get near 3000:1. Still way better than non-fald TN and IPS edge lit 860:1 to 1000:1 contrast and accompanying weak black depths for now. These oleds are in a league of their own all being inf:1 since they can be turned down and off per pixel.
I just watched the linus vid on a 5120x1440 samsung Odyssey G9 260Hz curved gaming display which wasn't even hdmi 2.1 capable (dp 1.4), has 8bit rgb, 1152 zone FALD and cost around $1600. FALD helps but it won't be per pixel "off oled black and infinite:1 contrast ratio. It's definitely wide but it's still a belt at only ~ 13 tall, like two 27" 16:9 monitors side by side. A FALD will be trying to balance "dim halos" and "glow halos" in their limited humber of zones which has it's own trade-offs in the end result. With the dim/glow zone balancing they aren't capable of hitting their peak HDR color volume / color-brightness % windows that they are spec'd to be all of the time and they will lose some detail in colors and detail in blacks throughout scenes. . I'd still consider a FALD or ULED for my living room tv someday since I have direct sunlight heat concerns vs running an oled with it's back to my picture window, but I am not really intersted in ~13" tall pc monitors without hdmi 2.1 (or dp 2.0) at very high prices anymore.
Same thing happened to me with Best buy. No text, email or notification. It was sitting on my porch on the freakin 4th of July! If I didn't need to go get ice I would have never known it was there. Unbelievablehey cool guy, I live on the southern coast of alabama, and i got mine in 2 days too..best buy is getting these things like they stole them.
I did find it kind of weird that bestbuy/fedex didn’t require a signature on a 1,600 purchase..seems like I’ve had to sign for almost everything like $400+. but they just sat it at my door, a giant blue box with the giant font reading LG CX OLED, just sitting at my front door step like it was a pizza.
How big is your window.? 27 or 32 inchesI just tested this and it works! I enabled GPU scaling (No scaling) in de Nvidia control panel and set 1920x1080 resolution with 120Hz. I indeed do get a small window in de middle. The tv still reports 3840x2160 and 120Hz as the input resolution.
Eh? With the Club-3d adapter, the CX can also do 4k@120 4:4:4. The only thing in the picture the CX cannot do is 12-bit color, which is a non-issue since the panel is 10-bit, just like on the C9.
THE question that is still outstanding that yet no one reliably has been able to answer; can the Club-3d adapter do 4k@120 4:4:4/RGB with HDR at 10-bit color on the CX.
The G9 does not use a FALD. It is edge-lit with 10 zones. If it had a FALD it would cost at least $1,000 more than it does.
Samsung Odyssey G9 Full Specs - 420 nits (typ), 1000 nits (peak), 2500:1 Contrast, 10-Bit color support, 125% sRGB, 95% DCI-P3, 92% Adobe RGB, 88% NTSC, FreeSync Premium Pro, G-Sync Compatible,
Same as the CRG90 - just 10 local dimming zones.
Obviously Samsung has no business calling this an HDR monitor, but it's the best in its size class. It can reach 1000 nit peak brightness and has a 3000:1ish contrast ratio which is absolutely fantastic.
This is basically a more curved CRG90 with a higher refresh rate.
I feel that it's a step backward for me; I place (some) value on color accuracy, and I've thus far failed to achieve through over half a dozen passes that have incorporated progressively more manual tuning with my Spyder 4 what can be achieved on any of my IPS screens in a single automated pass.I thought the 850G was great after coming from an IPS.
My 55B7 behaves exactly like this. I notice it when I'm walking by, but not across the room on the couch; I haven't tried to put it to use as a desktop display given its location and that I'd need to move my gaming desktop rig over to put it through its paces. I did use it briefly while doing some testing (only 'spare' monitor at the time), and for stuff like navigating UIs and terminals, it was fine.I took a quick shot of my 65" C7 while on a gray background. I was at about a 45 degree angle and maybe 3ft away. If I were to walk left across the screen, the "red" would move with me. From 6-7' away and centered, it's far more difficult to perceive.
My C9 doesn't look as nearly as bad as the C7, and the camera makes things more pronounced than I see with my eyes. I find it hard to imagine anyone being bothered by it in normal situations...I hadn't even noticed it.
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I just sold my LG 38" after using it for a few months and replaced it with the 48CX. They are both nice but the colors on the OLED are amazing(my first one).I feel that it's a step backward for me; I place (some) value on color accuracy, and I've thus far failed to achieve through over half a dozen passes that have incorporated progressively more manual tuning with my Spyder 4 what can be achieved on any of my IPS screens in a single automated pass.
I don't even think that the greater contrast is of much value given the abysmal response times that darker tones incur, and the panel definitely isn't as sharp as it could / should be.
On balance, I can live with and work with damn near anything, so I haven't thrown it out; but it's also definitely my last VA for personal use.
I'm looking at either the LG 38" ultrawide or the 48CX.
What games have you played that give 60 fps and at what resolution? I have a 2080 Super in my rig and a 48CX sitting in my closet. I haven't had a chance to set it up yet. I would love to get 60 fps @ 4k when Horizon Zero Dawn drops.I just sold my LG 38" after using it for a few months and replaced it with the 48CX. They are both nice but the colors on the OLED are amazing(my first one).
I am using a 1080 Ti currently and looking forward to the 3xxx series to really unlock the CX.
Currently I am playing generation zero and warhammer 2. Both can run at the 60fps at 4k. If I drop to the 4:2:0 then I can do 120hz at 4k. Looks ugly on the desktop but games do not seem to be affected the same way.What games have you played that give 60 fps and at what resolution? I have a 2080 Super in my rig and a 48CX sitting in my closet. I haven't had a chance to set it up yet. I would love to get 60 fps @ 4k when Horizon Zero Dawn drops.
I have a 2080 Super in my rig and a 48CX sitting in my closet.
Mine seems to title forward a bit Any one else notice that?
https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/z1-pro-gen-3.html is what I use.Just got my 48 CX. Does anyone know which arm mount can hold it up on a desk?
About 5 feet. Part of it could be perceptual coming from a curved monitor that was tilted upwards slightly.How far back do you sit from it?
HAHAHAHAHHA ...same here, but it's because I'm still deciding what wall mount arm to get...I still haven't peeled the film off the front/back because after doing so it becomes a used product in my brain. Gonna take the mental leap today.
I've been progressively working myself down, and am now doing WFH desktop work at OLED light 0 on a sunny day with no trouble seeing anything. STAY AWAY BURN IN!
OLED light 0? That's gotta be like 50 nits or something. Don't worry too much about burn-in with higher OLED light values, as long as you are taking the proper precautions, you'll be totally fine . People here have been using their OLEDs as monitors for YEARS without burn in while running reasonable brightness levels. This is probably gonna hurt some feelings but I say the only way you're gonna get burn in within less than 5 years is if you are just dumb and careless with your OLED.
It's totally usable for coding/productivity, and I definitely have windows sitting around in the same positions for long periods of time while WFH, so why not? Better safe than sorry.
For SDR gaming/videos I run it at OLED light 40.
HZD will probably support DLSS since death stranding does, I'd have thought almost any super card could do 4k@60 with dlssHere is my cunundrum. I
What games have you played that give 60 fps and at what resolution? I have a 2080 Super in my rig and a 48CX sitting in my closet. I haven't had a chance to set it up yet. I would love to get 60 fps @ 4k when Horizon Zero Dawn drops.
Adapter plate yes. There are probably many options available. I used https://en.newstar.eu/monitor/vesa-adapter-plates/fpma-vesa400-newstar-vesa-adapter-plate/ which actually has more holes than in the picture. Only downside is that it covers some of the CX's ventilation holes.did you have to buy a new mount for the monitor?
Mine is on order also and supposed to be here next week.Anyone else do more testing with the Club 3D adapter? A guy on AVS forums says he also has problems with adapter blanking out, needing power resets etc. Wondering if I should just cancel my order for one.
Anyone else do more testing with the Club 3D adapter? A guy on AVS forums says he also has problems with adapter blanking out, needing power resets etc. Wondering if I should just cancel my order for one.
i have an amazonbasics arm but i think the CX might be too heavy for it (arm is rated for 25.3 pounds/monitor weights 33)... may have to get your arm, as well.Adapter plate yes. There are probably many options available. I used https://en.newstar.eu/monitor/vesa-adapter-plates/fpma-vesa400-newstar-vesa-adapter-plate/ which actually has more holes than in the picture. Only downside is that it covers some of the CX's ventilation holes.
SoCali said he ordered one, said he would have it last Friday last I checked.Mine is on order also and supposed to be here next week.
Not sure how many ordered/have one in this thread?