Videocardz: EVGA preparing GeForce RTX 2060 KO

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Interesting that EVGA has apparently decided to launch a lower priced ($299) 2060 SKU without NVidia approval:

https://videocardz.com/newz/evga-preparing-geforce-rtx-2060-ko
According to TechPowerUP, who are citing EVGA representatives at CES 2020, the company is set to launch a new model based on TU106 silicon, the RTX 2060 KO. The new model is allegedly priced around 299 USD and it should be available next week (January 13 or later).
We have been told that the KO model is EVGA’s own doing, NVIDIA had no saying in this endeavor. The company is simply trying to make a cheaper RTX 2060 on its own. Other AIBs may follow this suit.

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Priced only $20 above the 5600XT it will be interesting to see where the benches land.

Though I thought the 2060 should have dropped to $300 as soon as 2060 Super came out.
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I just sold my last remaining GTX1080 for $300, wondering how this compares to that.
 
So now we're getting 1070ti performance for $300?
 
Lol I bet nVidia approved of this. No way is an AIB partner going to create new gpu skus without nVidias blessing.
 
Yeah, nVidia knew because nVidia makes the drivers that work for all of the AIB's parts... and to do that they have to have advance notice of the hardware ID's for each card so the OS will know what driver to use and the hardwares' name in Device Manager. They know.
 
5150Joker said:
Lol I bet nVidia approved of this. No way is an AIB partner going to create new gpu skus without nVidias blessing.
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It does seem odd. Though I also can't see NVidia releasing a new SKU through only one AIB partner.
 
Guess KO stands for knock out edition. Well they succeeded. Shame on AMD for pricing their 5600 series too high. Now a prelaunch price drop will likely come.
 
Rvenger said:
Guess KO stands for knock out edition. Well they succeeded. Shame on AMD for pricing their 5600 series too high. Now a prelaunch price drop will likely come.
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AMD always launches high (50-100 too high) then drops in recent years.
Too bad it pisses people off almost as much as Nvidia high pricing.
 
The price ($279 / $299) is only for a week or so and then it will increase $20 on both the 2060 KO and 2060 KO Ultra.
 
iRevert said:
The price ($279 / $299) is only for a week or so and then it will increase $20 on both the 2060 KO and 2060 KO Ultra.
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That's lame and not as cool off a deal. Still way better than the $379 I once paid for a 2060.
 
Thunderdolt said:
The 1070 Ti launched at $450. Getting the same performance for 30% less money looks like progress to me.
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The 1070ti only exists to combat the threat from Vega cards. It came out 1.5 years after the 1070 (June 2016 vs Nov 2017) and is basically a lower clocked 1080. Compare it to the price of the 970 cards, it was also $120 more expensive. I'm fine with say 30% performance increase between generations. I don't expect huge jumps all the time but I also don't expect $50-100 price increases most of the time either.
 
lightsout said:
That's lame and not as cool off a deal. Still way better than the $379 I once paid for a 2060.
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There also is the question on what quantity of these cards are going to sold and if other partners will be releasing a card at the $300 price point. We don't even know if this is a limited release or a permanent SKU so there are a few questions that need to be answered when this card comes out.

Even at the $300 price point it allows for some pretty good sales / MIR or bundles so that's pretty nice. There also is the possibility we will see a Cyberpunk 2077 bundle as back in 2015 Nvidia did a deal with CDPR for the witcher 3, I think they announced the bundle in March and the witcher 3 released in May.
 
Ranulfo said:
The 1070ti only exists to combat the threat from Vega cards. It came out 1.5 years after the 1070 (June 2016 vs Nov 2017) and is basically a lower clocked 1080. Compare it to the price of the 970 cards, it was also $120 more expensive. I'm fine with say 30% performance increase between generations. I don't expect huge jumps all the time but I also don't expect $50-100 price increases most of the time either.
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So then you agree that significant progress has been made. Cool.
 
Liking what I see now. As mentioned above with this becoming the real price, sales could make things interesting.

Not that I need a card currently.
 
Yeah that bundle sounds very likely, what better way to move the new NV cards then with one of the bigger games coming out this year. I am currently sitting on my 1080Ti waiting to upgrade next gen.
 
iRevert said:
This is super interesting with the timing with the upcoming 5600 and with the current 1660 product stack.


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I'm sticking to my statement about a possible Cyberpunk/Nvidia bundle. Just not with the 2XXX line of cards now with the delay.
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Did you miss the news it's now delayed till Sept? Will help clear some old stock but ain't going to do much right now.
 
N4CR said:
Did you miss the news it's now delayed till Sept? Will help clear some old stock but ain't going to do much right now.
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That was the "now with the delay" part.

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If that came of snotty that wasn't the intention, I was aware of it and was adding an addendum to the prediction I had before that CP77 would be bundled with a NVIDIA card.
 
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Rvenger said:
Guess KO stands for knock out edition. Well they succeeded. Shame on AMD for pricing their 5600 series too high. Now a prelaunch price drop will likely come.
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IDGI

Assuming the 5600XT matches a 2060, then AMD's MSRP is still priced lower than Nvidia, even after their price drop.
 
chameleoneel said:
IDGI

Assuming the 5600XT matches a 2060, then AMD's MSRP is still priced lower than Nvidia, even after their price drop.
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They will trade blows, but I expect 5600xt will be slower than 2060, since it's running memory slower than NVidia.

2060 = 336 GB/s
5600Xt = 288 GB/s
 
Snowdog said:
They will trade blows, but I expect 5600xt will be slower than 2060, since it's running memory slower than NVidia.

2060 = 336 GB/s
5600Xt = 288 GB/s
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Benchmarks are going to be interesting, indeed. 5600XT has slower ram and slower core speed. But 5600XT has more shading units, TMUs, and ROPs. If we look at the 5700XT which has the same amount of shading units, TMUs, and ROPs as 2070 super and matches it in performance. Then.....it seems the difference in those numbers between 5600XT and RTX 2060 should not be trivial.
 
chameleoneel said:
Benchmarks are going to be interesting, indeed. 5600XT has slower ram and slower core speed. But 5600XT has more shading units, TMUs, and ROPs. If we look at the 5700XT which has the same amount of shading units, TMUs, and ROPs as 2070 super and matches it in performance. Then.....it seems the difference in those numbers between 5600XT and RTX 2060 should not be trivial.
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Really though, the 5700Xt is behind the 2070 super, and that is at equal Memory Bandwidth.

Here AMD is giving up Memory Bandwidth, and they tend to be a little less efficient in using it than NVidia.

Benchmarks will be interesting probably for some big Swings. Some games hit the memory hard, and there AMD will be held back, OTOH, on games that don't hit memory hard they will pull ahead with the big unit count advantage.

On top of that you have games that favor AMD, and games that Favor NVidia. Now when you get games that favor AMD, and are not memory dependent, it will boost that win even more, but NVidia favoring game that is more memory dependent, it will probably favor the loss more.

Might be in for some wild results.
 
Isn't competition great?

It looks like AMD is releasing a Bios that boosts clock speed in response to the NVidia price cuts:
https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-quietly-makes-radeon-rx-5600-xt-pulse-faster

Just four days before Radeon RX 5600 XT officially launches, AMD allegedly provided a new vBIOS to their partners, which increases the TBP to 160W (from 150W). This has a direct effect on RX 5600 XT clock speeds, which are higher than previously announced at CES 2020.
While we have reached out to our sources to see if this story is true, it turns out that Sapphire already made changes to their RX 5600 XT PULSE today, so this might be the update HKEPC is referring to.
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