EA Appears To Be Permanently Banning Linux Players On Battlefield V

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Man, can't EA come up with a resolution to support Linux Players? :(

"We've seen this happen on multiple occasions with Blizzard, but they eventually fixed the problem the first time. In a comment on Hacker News, user jchw writes: "Anti-cheat software is an absolute shit show of cat-and-mouse tactics. It's often difficult to distinguish anti-cheat software from rootkits or spyware. They're invasive and user hostile, and they frequently cause collateral damage that is swept under the rug and that support tacitly refuses to acknowledge...""

https://linux.slashdot.org/story/20...nently-banning-linux-players-on-battlefield-v
 
Does the license specify windows only?

Can you only watch a DVD in a stand-alone player or can you watch it in your pc as well?
 
Auer said:
Point is, you can hardly hold a publishe/dev responsible for a product not working as intended when not used as intended.
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From the sounds of it, it appears it was working until the publisher deliberately broke it.

If you buy a (street) car new from Chevy and then drive it on the track, but a Chevy mechanic sees it & says "you shouldn't be doing that" and slashes your tires, is that ok?
 
Once in a rare while check game screenshot vs one rendered on the cloud.
If screenshots don't match within reasonable limits, flag for further review.
Such measures need not be locally vulnerable, nor eat into performance.
 
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This terrible anti cheat/theft device games that hook into the kernel to ensure your not cheating or stealing are horrid. We should all really stop buying them regardless of what OS you want to use.

To be clear what is happening here.... is the Linux version is providing all the user space APIs required to run a windows game. The game is trying to hook into shit it has no business hooking into... beyond software frameworks and apis. There are plenty of ways to employee anti cheat / theft software that don't require breaking an OS.

This is why developers mostly only support windows btw. MS has no idea what constitutes a secure system... and allow software to do some super shady shit as long as you the user clicks Sure UAC GO, make all the changes you like. lol

I guess I'm saying how cares if your banned... wtf did these people pay this shit developer to begin with.
 
ChadD said:
This terrible anti cheat/theft device games that hook into the kernel to ensure your not cheating or stealing are horrid. We should all really stop buying them regardless of what OS you want to use.

To be clear what is happening here.... is the Linux version is providing all the user space APIs required to run a windows game. The game is trying to hook into shit it has no business hooking into... beyond software frameworks and apis. There are plenty of ways to employee anti cheat / theft software that don't require breaking an OS.

This is why developers mostly only support windows btw. MS has no idea what constitutes a secure system... and allow software to do some super shady shit as long as you the user clicks Sure UAC GO, make all the changes you like. lol

I guess I'm saying how cares if your banned... wtf did these people pay this shit developer to begin with.
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I use Origin under Lutris to play C&C titles...Is that bad?
 
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So we have one player saying they weren’t cheating and EA saying they were.... Lot of people run BF5 on Linux and don’t get busted for cheating, why this guy?? Every year forums get flooded with people claiming that Publisher X is unfairly banning players for something, overlays, recording software, LED tie ins, you name it. With a few exceptions where the developers have stepped up and said it was an error they have all been cheaters. I am actually gonna side with EA on this one, maybe they weren’t “cheating” but they were altering resolutions, render distances, or aspect ratios for an advantage. Something EA has been cracking down on as of late on all their multi player game’s.
 
Lakados said:
So we have one player saying they weren’t cheating and EA saying they were.... Lot of people run BF5 on Linux and don’t get busted for cheating, why this guy?? Every year forums get flooded with people claiming that Publisher X is unfairly banning players for something, overlays, recording software, LED tie ins, you name it. With a few exceptions where the developers have stepped up and said it was an error they have all been cheaters. I am actually gonna side with EA on this one, maybe they weren’t “cheating” but they were altering resolutions, render distances, or aspect ratios for an advantage. Something EA has been cracking down on as of late on all their multi player game’s.
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I can agree with this. I can't get BF4 running anymore under Lutris due to Punkbuster issues, but from what I read a lot of Windows users are reporting the same issue so...Meh.

Every time there's a blanket banning of Linux users reported, eventually it comes to light that it was the users fault and not specifically the OS in question or the developer - Having said that, I don't like EA.
 
Mazzspeed said:
I can agree with this. I can't get BF4 running anymore under Lutris due to Punkbuster issues, but from what I read a lot of Windows users are reporting the same issue so...Meh.

Every time there's a blanket banning of Linux users reported, eventually it comes to light that it was the users fault and not specifically the OS in question or the developer - Having said that, I don't like EA.
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I like a few titles EA puts out, Jedi and Anthem being the main ones. And having fun playing the Deponia titles. That said I also don’t like EA they are a corporation and they will always do what they feel is best for their bottom line and that while shitty is at least predictable.

in regards to the Punkbuster issue have you tried removing its directory in BF4, manually downloading the punkbuster installer and running that. It should prompt you for the game you are installing it for and reinstall. Some users have reported success after 2 or 3 attempts, it tends to time out during the install.
 
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Lakados said:
I like a few titles EA puts out, Jedi and Anthem being the main ones. And having fun playing the Deponia titles. That said I also don’t like EA they are a corporation and they will always do what they feel is best for their bottom line and that while shitty is at least predictable.
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Predictable shittyness! I like this. :)
 
Mazzspeed said:
Furthermore, off the top of my head, isn't EA's anticheat server side?
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I'd guess there are client and server side components.

It's a shame people are having fun playing BF games while I can't even run Quake Live with Lutris.
 
dgz said:
I'd guess there are client and server side components.

It's a shame people are having fun playing BF games while I can't even run Quake Live with Lutris.
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I run quake champions under SteamPlay, is that similar? Once textures cache the game runs a treat.
 
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From the sounds of it, it appears it was working until the publisher deliberately broke it.

If you buy a (street) car new from Chevy and then drive it on the track, but a Chevy mechanic sees it & says "you shouldn't be doing that" and slashes your tires, is that ok?
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That is a very extreme twisting of facts.

The proper analogy would be: Chevy sees idiots on the streets tailgating from 1 feet and adds a feature that prevents this, which as a byproduct also prevents you from driving it on the track.
 
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Lakados said:
So we have one player saying they weren’t cheating and EA saying they were.... Lot of people run BF5 on Linux and don’t get busted for cheating, why this guy?? Every year forums get flooded with people claiming that Publisher X is unfairly banning players for something, overlays, recording software, LED tie ins, you name it. With a few exceptions where the developers have stepped up and said it was an error they have all been cheaters. I am actually gonna side with EA on this one, maybe they weren’t “cheating” but they were altering resolutions, render distances, or aspect ratios for an advantage. Something EA has been cracking down on as of late on all their multi player game’s.
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not one player... https://forums.lutris.net/t/ea-banning-dxvk-on-battlefield-v/7810/2
 
/dev/null said:
From the sounds of it, it appears it was working until the publisher deliberately broke it.

If you buy a (street) car new from Chevy and then drive it on the track, but a Chevy mechanic sees it & says "you shouldn't be doing that" and slashes your tires, is that ok?
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If you buy a chevy gas car and put diesel in it and then return it as broken is that ok?
 
dgz said:
The product is working fine on Linux. That's why they are banning people. Can't you read?
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I'm sorry, I did not realize there was a conspiracy theory here, rather than just a game not working anymore on a platform it was never designed for.

Maybe some of you Linux Justice Warriors could relax a little and at least consider the possibility of EA not supporting Linux in this game officially could be the real reason something stopped working?
 
Auer said:
I'm sorry, I did not realize there was a conspiracy theory here, rather than just a game not working anymore on a platform it was never designed for.

Maybe some of you Linux Justice Warriors could relax a little and at least consider the possibility of EA not supporting Linux in this game officially could be the real reason something stopped working?
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#:banghead::confused:
 
Auer said:
I'm sorry, I did not realize there was a conspiracy theory here, rather than just a game not working anymore on a platform it was never designed for.

Maybe some of you Linux Justice Warriors could relax a little and at least consider the possibility of EA not supporting Linux in this game officially could be the real reason something stopped working?
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Well, there's a difference in "not supporting" and "denying the use of". I haven't read through all the information, so I can't come to a conclusion on which way EA is facing, but [if the banned are to be believed] denying claims of fair-play because a poorly implemented DRM is hypersensitive doesn't look good for any consumer (hell, I still hear people on Win get perma-banned when they decide to use a new case lighting or mouse software because DRM hasn't been updated to recognize it).
 
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