Nvidia Ampere Purportedly 50% Faster Than Turing At Half The Power Consumption

Yuanta Securities Investment Consulting Co has some very juicy details on Nvidia's next-generation GeForce

Yes, because we all know what investors love doing when they find out something that gives them a clear edge over other investors is to make it public knowledge so they lose their advantage.

These guys being the named source makes me far less likely to believe this is based on any real information.
 
That doesn't make sense as you can get a 2080S right now in that price ballpark. If it's not 2080S performance at a LOWER price, it's a waste.

Really? Who sells a $600 2080 Super?
 
I just got my 2080 Super... Um.... Should I return and wait? lol

I just got a 2080 super too. I would have gotten a 2080 ti but with Ampere around the corner I thought this would be fine for a while.
 
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I am sure he meant I7's but, *shrug*, Intel is having major issues and even if they had been 10nm successful, that would not have made them any better than they are now. It was still the same architecture they have used for a long time now, more or less.

Yeah forgot i9 is a relatively new thing. Point is that Intel's flagships were still rocking 4 cores when Zen dropped.

There's no way anyone can argue that Intel was pushing the envelope on the desktop. And it's not because of 10nm.
 
I'm all for extracting as much rendering oomph while using as little power as possible, so I'm keeping my eye on Ampere.
Hope RDNA2 can compete with the power to performance metrics.
RDNA2 will maybe only match the 2080ti while Ampere will blow both out of the water I think. Basing it on AMD having no halo cards and high end NV cards running so much better in terms of efficiency with respect to power consumption and sound at load
 
Yeah forgot i9 is a relatively new thing. Point is that Intel's flagships were still rocking 4 cores when Zen dropped.

There's no way anyone can argue that Intel was pushing the envelope on the desktop. And it's not because of 10nm.

It probably was, at least. partly due to 10nm's failure. Look at how much power 9th Gen uses and how hot they run. And if the leaked slides for 10th Gen are true those are going to use even more power and probably run warmer. Intel is desperate to try and keep up with AMD where they can, but it seems like their 14nm chips can barely handle it.
 
RDNA2 will maybe only match the 2080ti while Ampere will blow both out of the water I think. Basing it on AMD having no halo cards and high end NV cards running so much better in terms of efficiency with respect to power consumption and sound at load

That's what my gut tells me, as well.

Power consumption and heat at a given level of performance are, primarily, what have kept an nVidia GPU in my gaming system since the GeForce2 days.
With the exception of the GeForce FX 5000 series that I had...that was a mistake.

Really hoping for much lower load temps with Ampere and RDNA2 Navi parts, but it's all going to depend on how effectively the heat can be pulled off the more densely packed cores made with the smaller nodes.
 
Tom's Hardware usually doesn't post BS sometimes they do if this is true this card is going to be out of reach for most people due to the price.
 
I don't expect something like this, but if it's true...my wallet is ready.
I don't think any of us should feel like that. It makes me think I have to bend over and wait for Jensen to pound me from behind on whatever he wants to charge for his RTX Beta Test, Round 2. I wish Intel would become a competitor in this space but I think they are a couple years out from doing anything meaningful on the high end. AMD can't sort their shit out and release anything worth a damn on the "Big Navi" side... hell they can't even put Navi on their 7nm APUs. They are slapping Vega on them... If Nvidia has no competitor, (and we do want the fastest stuff so we can finally game at 4K without chop) we are in for another shit show on the pricing side of things.

I am with you, in a sense. However, my wallet and my ass are far from ready for this round of Nvidia stupidity.
 
I definitely want to believe it. I believe the 50% RT performance, but 50% raster performance? Something makes me not want to trust that.
 
Tom's Hardware usually doesn't post BS sometimes they do if this is true this card is going to be out of reach for most people due to the price.

Tom's hardware in my mind is about as accurate as WCCFtech. Maybe a bit more.

Ever since the "Just Buy It" Debackle they've yet to pull their heads far enough away from their asses not to see crack every time they open their eyes.
 
IMO, always track as far back to the original source for any Rumor:

Tapipeitimes is as close as we can get:

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2020/01/02/2003728557
A graphics processing unit (GPU) upgrade by Nvidia Corp is expected to drive growth in the global gaming industry this year and benefit local firms with high exposure to the sector, Yuanta Securities Investment Consulting Co (元大投顧) said in a client note on Friday.

The US chipmaker is to launch its new Ampere-based GPU in the second half of this year, leading to a rebound in demand for gaming GPUs and notebook computers after weaker-than-expected sales in the sector last year due to Nvidia digesting inventory, Yuanta said.

A successor to units based on the Turing architecture, Nvidia’s next-generation GPU based on the Ampere architecture is to adopt 7-nanometer technology, which would lead to a 50 percent increase in graphics performance while halving power consumption, the note said.


Really this sounds like the worse kind of nonsense. It really looks like they are just assuming that 7nm change is driving this. Some clueless junior analyst just got it into his head that 7nm is 50% better than 14nm., and thus assuming it will give 50% performance boost along with halving power consumption. Which is completely ridiculous.

IOW: This is complete bullshit based on nothing.
 
Which boggles my mind since buying a brand new 2070 Super that offers about the same performance is around that price point.

Its silly but a factor of 11GB ram vs 8gb ram and rtx being overhyped and overpriced. Thus people still thinking its a good buy at 2.5 years old despite Turing having more longevity at this point for newer games.
 
Which boggles my mind since buying a brand new 2070 Super that offers about the same performance is around that price point.

Not sure what is so mind boggling about large amount of people not being interested in playing Ebay Roulette trying to find a good deal on used card. I would rather just buy something new with a warranty even if it has worse price/performance.
 
This 50% is pretty vague. I don't think it is across the board 50% gain in every aspect. I HOPE the RT is 50% better though, since fps is pretty lackluster w/ the 1st gen.
 
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Not sure what is so mind boggling about large amount of people not being interested in playing Ebay Roulette trying to find a good deal on used card. I would rather just buy something new with a warranty even if it has worse price/performance.

I'm not sure if you misunderstood my post, but that's was I said: I'm boggled that people ARE playing the eBay roulette and paying the same price for a used 1080Ti instead of just getting a new and similar performance 2070 Super.
 
This 50% is pretty vague. I don't think it is across the board 50% gain in every aspect. I HOPE the RT is 50% better though, since fps is pretty lackluster w/ the 1st gen.

Only 50% RT improvement would be very disappointing.
 
I heard that the Ampere lineup of products increase your virility by up to 70% and makes you grow studded leather jackets to match your new badass beard. If you buy 3 for SLI it comes with a complementary Harley and a Keg. The cards are so completely mind-blowing it transforms your entire life for the more awesome.
 
I am liking the console option more, the game choice is abundant, just hook up and play no need for constant upgrades and cut the power bill down. Xbox one and PS 4 were the start of the future where console is not limited in content due to disk's, downloaded games have the exact same content and DLC as PC and smart capability with smart TV'S make it cheaper to run.

PC doesn't even have MLB the show
 
I'm not sure if you misunderstood my post, but that's was I said: I'm boggled that people ARE playing the eBay roulette and paying the same price for a used 1080Ti instead of just getting a new and similar performance 2070 Super.
Wait, ppl are paying $500 for 1080tis? I got mine with a block for $475.
 
I heard that the Ampere lineup of products increase your virility by up to 70% and makes you grow studded leather jackets to match your new badass beard. If you buy 3 for SLI it comes with a complementary Harley and a Keg. The cards are so completely mind-blowing it transforms your entire life for the more awesome.

0/10 Sorry. Next, LOL!
 
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Anyone remember the last time a GPU company found 50% more performance in one generation. Believe it when I see the benchmarks.

Maxwell to Pascall exceeded 50% jumps from 980ti to 1080ti pretty much across the board

timestamp 5:20 proof:
 
Wait, ppl are paying $500 for 1080tis? I got mine with a block for $475.

Most recently sold used working 1080Ti's:

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Maxwell to Pascall exceeded 50% jumps from 980ti to 1080ti pretty much across the board

timestamp 5:20 proof:


Right, because it happened for Pascal, it must have also happen for every release, like for Turing....

Can you see how that breaks down?

50% gain in performance is EXTREMELY unlikely in the current environment.

Half power usage at same performance (let alone while simultaneously increasing performance 50% as in rumor) is borderline impossible in one generation.

This rumor is complete bullshit.

The financial analyst ("source") knows nothing, it was just a naive assumption that the change to 7nm gives that kind of benefit. It should be obvious to anyone that follows the current state of technology that it doesn't.
 
Right, because it happened for Pascal, it must have also happen for every release, like for Turing....

Can you see how that breaks down?

50% gain in performance is EXTREMELY unlikely in the current environment.

Half power usage at same performance (let alone while simultaneously increasing performance 50% as in rumor) is borderline impossible in one generation.

This rumor is complete bullshit.

The financial analyst ("source") knows nothing, it was just a naive assumption that the change to 7nm gives that kind of benefit. It should be obvious to anyone that follows the current state of technology that it doesn't.
Huh?

Who said it must happen everytime?
I was just saying it has happened (+ some) before and recently.
 
I am liking the console option more, the game choice is abundant, just hook up and play no need for constant upgrades and cut the power bill down. Xbox one and PS 4 were the start of the future where console is not limited in content due to disk's, downloaded games have the exact same content and DLC as PC and smart capability with smart TV'S make it cheaper to run.

PC doesn't even have MLB the show

Constant upgrades? No one has needed "constant upgrades" for the last decade. As for power, even in places with how power cost the difference is a few bucks a month. Preferring one over the other is fine, but try to keep the BS to a minimum.
 
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