Intel: We Will Not Skip 10nm For 7nm, Ice Lake On Track For End Of 2020 Launch

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So the truth is finally out!

"The company has no plans of ditching its 10nm process. In fact, Intel will be doubling down on it and introducing + and ++ generations on it as well. This is something they have pulled off with great success on the 14nm node and should give them more time to prepare for 7nm. TSMC on the other hand, and ironically, seems to be aggressively pushing forward into 5nm (equivalent to Intel's 7nm) and should have products on the sheld by 2021."

https://wccftech.com/intel-we-will-not-skip-10nm/
 
Verado said:
So.. That means they have trouble with their 7nm process aswell as 10nm?
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I think it means they sunk so much into 10nm that they have to get something out of it before moving on.
 
I feel like that's what they've been saying, although nobody seems to believe them.
 
You can't just measure one thing and claim it's equivalent to 7nm tsmc lol. Everyone claiming that last time ignored the sram cell sizes (I didnt) and look at how much damn cache the zen2 chiplets have, no one saw that coming because of it.
Yeah some features are similar size on 10nm vs tsmc7, but that's not the entire story. In the end, one has high 90% yield and the other is nowhere to be seen and years late.

Its like comparing your brothers car that isn't finished or ready, in a drag race vs your cousins car that is...
 
I'll stick with 14nm.... I don't need a dumpster fire. I saw that vid.

Seriously, I bet what Intel has for us in the next few years will be decent, and push the competitors. Progress man. It's good
 
Over the past few years, Intel has been unable to move their process forward, so they have gone from being a generation ahead to being a generation behind.
It is a performance that should be a Harvard case study, how to destroy a franchise while swimming in money, but thus far there has been zero acknowledgement of the disaster by Intel.
Imho, Intel's BoD needs a drastic makeover, as they allowed this massive failure to happen despite numerous warnings. They have damaged the country by their inaction, as semiconductor leadership has now moved to Asia.
Meanwhile, they have zero credibility and their process technology forecasts can be safely disregarded.
 
etudiant said:
Over the past few years, Intel has been unable to move their process forward, so they have gone from being a generation ahead to being a generation behind.
It is a performance that should be a Harvard case study, how to destroy a franchise while swimming in money, but thus far there has been zero acknowledgement of the disaster by Intel.
Imho, Intel's BoD needs a drastic makeover, as they allowed this massive failure to happen despite numerous warnings. They have damaged the country by their inaction, as semiconductor leadership has now moved to Asia.
Meanwhile, they have zero credibility and their process technology forecasts can be safely disregarded.
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Why aren't heads rolling in the Fab Division? You would think there would be some accountability SOMEWHERE? Corporate America is a joke.
 
Mega6 said:
Why aren't heads rolling in the Fab Division? You would think there would be some accountability SOMEWHERE? Corporate America is a joke.
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Well, the Board did fire the CEO under a pretext of inappropriate relationships, but that ducked the real issue.

I'd not blame the Fab division, that entity presumably is starved for resources by management, how else can one explain the ongoing capacity shortages? I've seen no evidence of any effort to add sufficient capital spending to resolve that problem either, so denial of reality continues in the Intel C suite,.
 
If they don't sort this out by late 2020 this time around, its quite possible Intel will go the AMD route and spin off its fabs.
 
etudiant said:
Well, the Board did fire the CEO under a pretext of inappropriate relationships, but that ducked the real issue.

I'd not blame the Fab division, that entity presumably is starved for resources by management, how else can one explain the ongoing capacity shortages? I've seen no evidence of any effort to add sufficient capital spending to resolve that problem either, so denial of reality continues in the Intel C suite,.
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Follow thew money. Spending money now to help in the long run will end up possibly hurting the board of directors / shareholders pocketbooks in the short run.. and we can't have that, now can we?

I, for one, think that Intel is finally getting their comeuppance for how they tried and did damage AMD quite massively back in the days of the Athlon 64 with their downright illegal and scummy actions. All they got was a tap on the wrist.
 
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