Silicon Valley’s psychedelic wonder drug is almost here

Dark12 said:
Shrooms are better to start with due to shorter effects, but nothing beats LSD.
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Yes, 2c-e does. Sadly it was made illegal. I disagree with Shulgin, as, I found it to be incredibly profound, and very pleasurable, physically and mentally. The audio enhancement alone was worth it. Especially with a pretty girl or two.

And now the legal LSD analogs, here in Canada at least, such as 1p lsd. Due to the not going to jail part, are pretty intteresting. Anyways, I hated LSD. I find all psychedelics boring these days though - that includes marijuana. Though I have fond memories from my early 20s.

And I can find ibogaine extracts legally here as well - It'll be awhile before we find an Ibogaine analogue that probably doesn't fucking suck to suffer through.
 
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Arcygenical said:
Yes, 2c-e does. Sadly it was made illegal. I disagree with Shulgin, as, I found it to be incredibly profound, and very pleasurable, physically and mentally. The audio enhancement alone was worth it. Especially with a pretty girl or two.

And now the legal LSD analogs, here in Canada at least, such as 1p lsd. Due to the not going to jail part, are pretty intteresting. Anyways, I hated LSD. I find all psychedelics boring these days though - that includes marijuana. Though I have fond memories from my early 20s.

And I can find ibogaine extracts legally here as well - It'll be awhile before we find an Ibogaine analogue that probably doesn't fucking suck to suffer through.
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Ah that's pretty sweet. And yea. LSD plus a girl are the best combo. Hours upon hours of fun with no exhaustion.

With any of those analogues though the law is gray. At least in the US, they passed an analogue act that says any modification of inactive chemical groups of controlled substances are considered to be controlled in the same manner as said controlled substance. This was an effort to stop designer drugs. So I say just go all out.
 
Dark12 said:
Ah that's pretty sweet. And yea. LSD plus a girl are the best combo. Hours upon hours of fun with no exhaustion.

With any of those analogues though the law is gray. At least in the US, they passed an analogue act that says any modification of inactive chemical groups of controlled substances are considered to be controlled in the same manner as said controlled substance. This was an effort to stop designer drugs. So I say just go all out.
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Yep, thank god we don't have an analog act here in Canada. I mean, drugs are for losers, microdosing is hogwash, and big pharma is best pharma.
 
What is this drug users anonymous?
Best drug is one that affects dopamine levels, feels like winning everything all at once all day long no matter what you are doing. Combine that with time dilatation and an indescribable feel of connectivity and interest in everything (especially because it tricks the part of your brain which records things and makes them familiar, so everything is new and beautiful like it is your first time seeing it even if you stare at it for hours). To bad that drug causes mania.
 
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filip said:
What is this drug users anonymous?
Best drug is one that affects dopamine levels, feels like winning everything all at once all day long no matter what you are doing. Combine that with time dilatation and an indescribable feel of connectivity and interest in everything (especially because it tricks the part of your brain which records things and makes them familiar, so everything is new and beautiful like it is your first time seeing it even if you stare at it for hours). To bad that drug causes mania.
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I'm not sure what the dopamine drugs are, but I can promise you the best feeling drug I ever did was MDMA, and that releases a ton of serotonin.
 
dgz said:
Dopamine is for people hooked gambling. Now, serotonin, that's happiness.
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Too much is not good for you, especially long term.
I tried something called 5 HTP that is available freely on Amazon to help with a sleep issue I was having, which boosts production of serotonin.
It took a few weeks to metabolise and jeez I felt so rough.
I cant remember the effects (it will come to me) but I was so poorly, it took me a while to work out what had changed in my life.
A week after I stopped taking it normality resumed, I was so grateful.

So perhaps it is a good idea to take it, then you realise how the status quo is much better lol.
Unless of course you have naturally low serotonin levels ...
 
As someone who had Serotonin Syndrome from medication, don’t mess around with it. It’s scary stuff.

Psychedelics acting on Serotonin receptors is a completely different story though, the molecule displaces normal Serotonin and fits into receptors like a lock and key. It’s quite astonishing it is naturally formed and so similar to our brain chemistry. It like it was made for it.
 
aokman said:
As someone who had Serotonin Syndrome from medication, don’t mess around with it. It’s scary stuff.

Psychedelics acting on Serotonin receptors is a completely different story though, the molecule displaces normal Serotonin and fits into receptors like a lock and key. It’s quite astonishing it is naturally formed and so similar to our brain chemistry. It like it was made for it.
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Very interesting topic indeed.

Then you got things like MDxA class drugs like ecstacy that tell your body to dump serotonin supplies. This can cause you to feel down and low energy for a couple days while your body regenerates it's supply.

And ya psychedelics mimic serotonin which cause a surplus for a couple days after which leaves you with an 'afterglow', a feeling of calmness and well-being.

I agree with you, psychedelics are just simply better.
 
Nenu said:
Too much is not good for you, especially long term.
I tried something called 5 HTP that is available freely on Amazon to help with a sleep issue I was having, which boosts production of serotonin.
It took a few weeks to metabolise and jeez I felt so rough.
I cant remember the effects (it will come to me) but I was so poorly, it took me a while to work out what had changed in my life.
A week after I stopped taking it normality resumed, I was so grateful.

So perhaps it is a good idea to take it, then you realise how the status quo is much better lol.
Unless of course you have naturally low serotonin levels ...
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I was talking about MDMA but thanks for the sound advice
 
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nilepez said:
I'm not sure what the dopamine drugs are, but I can promise you the best feeling drug I ever did was MDMA, and that releases a ton of serotonin.
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It does a lot more than that, it changes The Binding Affinity of both dopamine and serotonin channels allowing for crosstalk, particularly with dopamine ligands. That's one of the main main causes of neurotoxicity actually, allowing molecules to bind where they're not normally supposed to, and synergistically so.
 
Arcygenical said:
It does a lot more than that, it changes The Binding Affinity of both dopamine and serotonin channels allowing for crosstalk, particularly with dopamine ligands. That's one of the main main causes of neurotoxicity actually, allowing molecules to bind where they're not normally supposed to, and synergistically so.
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I suppose, but while there's no doubt that MDMA increases your body temperature (which I assume is hwat you're referring to), if you stay cool and drink water (but obviously don't drink too much water), it was all fine. Now if you go to a place that's already hot and you do MDMA, I imagine that could be a problem. Back in the day, I generally found that spot that had a power AC vent and stood by it a lot, which could be embarrassing, when it was in the bathroom :LOL: But once cooled off, i was back out on the floor.
 
filip said:
Cocaine.
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Ok, well that is definitely one of the more boring drugs, IMO. Don't get me wrong, if you do it, you want to do more, but for me I mostly did it as a social thing. And eventually I just said, "pass," because a drug that makes your heart race and keeps you from sleeping and does little else bored the fuck out of me.
 
Arcygenical said:
I found it to be incredibly profound, and very pleasurable, physically and mentally. The audio enhancement alone was worth it. Especially with a pretty girl or two.
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What do you mean "a pretty girl..or TWO?" Just how much of a stud are you?

I've never been able to pull off this move. My pickup game is tight "ladies, tonight just got HOT!", they're impressed by the barbwire bicep tat, I've got a mouthful of breath mints. But we get back to the house and things seem to fall apart somewhere between introducing my action figures and starting the movie Hostel.
 
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odditory said:
What do you mean "a pretty girl..or TWO?" Just how much of a stud are you?

I've never been able to pull off this move. My pickup game is tight "ladies, tonight just got HOT!", barbwire bicep tat in view, mouthful of breath mints. We get back to the house and things fall apart as I'm introducing my action figures by name.
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‘Two women? What am I supposed to do? ... I can barely disappoint one!’
- Costanza
 
Dark12 said:
Didn't get a chance to watch all those yet, but so far they look great.

Shrooms are better to start with due to shorter effects, but nothing beats LSD.
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i did synthetic peyote once, really hard to dose. i had like blackouts on that xD and crashed prety hard but, was not in a good state of mind then alot of anxiety and fear from before. shrooms were prety great tho. shrooms are great! it's just too bad they fixed the loophole on spores in norway as they didnt contain any active psilocybin. only other choice is picking in the fall, but i dont have a car and i never really found any. sort of limited with just a bike, and then just going around on a field private or ++ just isnt so apealing either.

think it is sad that shrooms are so demonized i think they could have real value. they are non toxic also. i think alco is probs one of the worst drugs, but that is so socially accepted. i do think shrooms were sort of educational. a good trip is like a drug induced supercharged meditation xD only thing close to some sort of enjoyment like that is xtc. used properly i dont think shrooms are bad.
 
Jagger100 said:
Maybe my generation's drugs weren't so refined. I could sort out who did psychedelic's (mushrooms excluded) by their paranoia level. I'm talking years later. If figure there's some rewiring of the brain that happens. Anyone who says it's all upside, I need lots of scientific proof.
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maybe they're not paranoid and your just brainwashed? ever think of it like that?
 
d3athf1sh said:
maybe they're not paranoid and your just brainwashed? ever think of it like that?
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id be paranoid too if I had just had my brain opened up to the world, only for the President to declare war on said drug for fear of an independently thinking population.
 
think mushrooms did me more good then harm. right now i just want to see if they can help me in other ways. i had anxiety for like 10+ years now, might not be in a better state of mind, i was better but. overall i think that and meditation have had quite profound on effects on how i see my thougts and this world. schizophrenia is more like a common disease. one thing to actually have visual or auditory hallucinations. but not beeing able to fully see the impact the mind have on reality is in my eyes just the same as schizophrenia, that is most ppl really. they are just hallucinating from the the contents of their mind shaping reality.

real auditory hallucinations or visual is one thing. but to be delusional of seeing the world but not interpreting it in a certain way that is the other side of it. and the mind can interpret something a 1000 ways. but there is only one way of peace of mind. why it is a blessing to be free from the mind. for anyone.
 
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Brainwashing is not some CIA experiment. It is simply repeating the same information over and over again until ppl believe it to be true. At least when u can control the flow of information. But nowdays it's hard to control the stream of misinformation. That makes a person like myself wonder what is true? if all information can be manipulated, wich it perfectly can. What am i suposed to believe in? wich make it hard for me to believe in anything.

Greatest form of mind control is controlling the information a brain recieves. It's not some voodoo science LSD experiments the CIA conducted, that would infact destroy the very basis of brainwashing. Because that is one of the foundations of psychedelics, it is to FREE your mind. Almost like a matrix movie. But that is what psychedelics do, they free your mind. Wich is why they are dangerous to this current society.

We can no longer have free thinking individuals or ppl able to form thougts on their own because they threaten the status quo wich is profit over anything.
 
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