Intel Xe GPUs will only appear as reference cards with AIBs not willing to cooperate

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"According to a regular poster on Chinese tech forum, Chiphell, the Intel Xe GPUs will only appear in reference graphics card designs with no current add-in board (AIB) partners yet willing to cooperate for this first-gen release. That’s probably not a huge surprise, given that it’s an unproven architecture that manufacturers aren’t going to want to commit to until they see some momentum with second and third-gen Xe GPUs."

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https://www.pcgamesn.com/intel-xe-gpus-reference-cards-no-aib
 
With the history of i740 and larrabee, it's not wonder AIB are a bit hesitant to throw money at it. Intel has something to prove.
I do think Intel can make something good but they need to commit to it, instead of tossing out one product line of crap and then drop the idea again.

I do wish them the best of luck a third party GPU manufacturer would be nice for competition
 
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BrotherMichigan said:
To be fair to Intel, hasn't the thought been that the first gen isn't going to be some world-ender from a performance perspective?
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I wouldn't expect anything else
But if they stay in the game maybe on their 3rd gen release they might be competitive. Hopefully
 
Intel just sold their modem business to Apple and blamed qualcomm's anti-competitive business practices. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Intel is also behind on 40Gbps and up enterprise server NICs behind broadcom and mellanox.

More and more lately they are having problems competing in certain spaces. I don't know if they are having problems hiring the best talent. Money isn't the problem because they have boatloads of it.

I believe they are hiring dummies that claim to be able to deliver and cannot.

Keeping that recent history in mind I don't blame AIB partners 1 bit for being hesitant to begin spinning up partnerships with Intel over this product. Assuming this report is true.

As others have said, after they prove themselves a bit I can see it.

Not to mention Nvidia has so many damned SKUs now I can see any AIB partner feeling swamped just keeping up wtih Nvidia's BS, not to mention a lackluster Intel product.
 
Intel Xe is somewhat hyped, i mean not really... it just seems more publicized than Larrabee or am i wrong?

Larrabee was at least an interesting failure, and tangible hardware that people are still trying to get running as a collectible

Intel Xe is just boring to me, horrific naming convention
 
BrotherMichigan said:
To be fair to Intel, hasn't the thought been that the first gen isn't going to be some world-ender from a performance perspective?
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Naturally, but they hired that idiot Raja. They've been implying it was gonna be something by suggesting its gonna power their exscale efforts. They've been hyping this crap.
 
thesmokingman said:
Naturally, but they hired that idiot Raja. They've been implying it was gonna be something by suggesting its gonna power their exscale efforts. They've been hyping this crap.
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Raja's making a ton of money over there at intel :-\
 
thesmokingman said:
That guy always over promises and under delivers. I bet Intel was stupid enough to think they got away with a fast one there. lol, how low they must have been to think Raja was the way, smh.
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But he probably will put down enough of a framework that Intel can have somebody else carry on his work. I am far more interested in what Xe can do in the server space, nobody has an answer to nVidia's Tesla lineup and I am hoping Intel can deliver something there.
 
OFaceSIG said:
More and more lately they are having problems competing in certain spaces. I don't know if they are having problems hiring the best talent. Money isn't the problem because they have boatloads of it.

I believe they are hiring dummies that claim to be able to deliver and cannot.
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Like Raja Koduri :ROFLMAO:. Funnily enough, it seems like they're taking the AMD approach to only aiming at the mainstream market, at least for now. Which, despite peoples' hopes, would leave NVIDIA a monopoly for enthusiast hardware.
 
Lakados said:
But he probably will put down enough of a framework that Intel can have somebody else carry on his work. I am far more interested in what Xe can do in the server space, nobody has an answer to nVidia's Tesla lineup and I am hoping Intel can deliver something there.
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They've been clear about targeting this space first. Imagine Epyc CPUs running Intel Xe compute cards...

Armenius said:
Funnily enough, it seems like they're taking the AMD approach to only aiming at the mainstream market, at least for now. Which, despite peoples' hopes, would leave NVIDIA a monopoly for enthusiast hardware.
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For their consumer-oriented parts, they're definitely targeting mainstream and entry-level SKUs first.

Their first round really just needs to prove that they can actually build a decent discrete GPU at whatever price/performance point they target. And really it does need to be affordable so that more are willing to take a chance on their technology and they can get some marketshare and volume feedback on drivers and so on.
 
Wonder what the power envelope is for Xe. That should tell us a lot.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
They've been clear about targeting this space first. Imagine Epyc CPUs running Intel Xe compute cards...



For their consumer-oriented parts, they're definitely targeting mainstream and entry-level SKUs first.

Their first round really just needs to prove that they can actually build a decent discrete GPU at whatever price/performance point they target. And really it does need to be affordable so that more are willing to take a chance on their technology and they can get some marketshare and volume feedback on drivers and so on.
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I have seen that they intend to focus the server/datacenter first but I haven't seen much about it. I have a 7551P upstairs that I need to toss a better video solution into, it can handle up to 4 double slot cards (as long as they are passively cooled or a blower) and I am currently just using a bunch of leftover P1000's I had and have them in the vGPU pool. The P40 is what nVidia keept trying to tell me I should be using, though most of the forums say the new RTX 6000 and 8000 will do the job as I am ok with no "official" support.
 


This was off of Rajas twitter too...

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Is this really new for Raja though, or does he just suck?
 
OFaceSIG said:
More and more lately they are having problems competing in certain spaces. I don't know if they are having problems hiring the best talent. Money isn't the problem because they have boatloads of it.

I believe they are hiring dummies that claim to be able to deliver and cannot.
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Having worked at small companies and big companies, I have found that big companies become more political as they grow as the sharks eat the smaller sharks. This encourages them to retain the kiss asses with mediocre ideas.

Smaller companies have to hire the best talent or they will not survive.
 
sleepeeg3 said:
Having worked at small companies and big companies, I have found that big companies become more political as they grow as the sharks eat the smaller sharks. This encourages them to retain the kiss asses with mediocre ideas.

Smaller companies have to hire the best talent or they will not survive.
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I know exactly what you're talking about. After having worked at smaller .com and now a huge/ancient insurance company I've seen exactly what you're describing.
 
So this chip is all Indian designed. So we're talking Indian versus American versus American/Canadian design. I've seen Indian cars. No offense, but, I'm not worried.
 
Man I just hope its good, would be really cool seeing and discussing legit gaming PC's with a line of Intel Xe cards.
 
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