AMD Paves Upgrade Path for TRX40 Platform with 64-core 3990X in 2020

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The slide detailing the 3990X mentions its core count of 64-core/128-thread, total cache (L2 + L3), which is a staggering 288 MB, and TDP of "just" 280 W. There is no mention of the chip's clock-speeds, and with the 3970X already priced close to $2,000, one can expect even higher prices for a chip with double the core count. At some point these products stop being HEDT and enter the realm of workstations. Intel's short-term response to even the 3970X could be limited to somehow sell the 28-core "Cascade Lake-SP" with quasi-HEDT branding the way it sells the Xeon W-3175X, and on a different platform than the X299.

https://www.techpowerup.com/261460/...for-trx40-platform-with-64-core-3990x-in-2020
 
I didn't check the price, but I can gather from your second links name, it isn't cheap.

But Jesus... 128t and 288mb of cache? Shit like that ain't cheap.
 
I didn't check the price, but I can gather from your second links name, it isn't cheap.

But Jesus... 128t and 288mb of cache? Shit like that ain't cheap.

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There's beating the HEDT dead horse and then there's this which I would compare to throwing some thermite on the corpse and setting it on fire.
 
At some point these products stop being HEDT and enter the realm of workstations.

Agree with this part -- Intel HEDT and TR are both sold for 'workstations', and it's hard to draw a line where lower-end enterprise CPUs (Xeon / Epyc) are 'workstation' CPUs too and these aren't.

In AMD's case it seems that Threadripper has become their 'workstation' line, while Intel would rather their HEDT parts still be 'consumer-oriented' and have the equivalent Xeon-branded parts keep the 'workstation' orientation.
 
So no word of the TRX80 or WRX80 chipsets? Did those just evaporate? I mean, if they did so much the better than having a 3-way chipset fracture on the HEDT, but just curious.

That said, I know we figured this would be on the way. I wonder what the single or few core (where few could be anything fro 4 to 16 physical ) frequency and performance may be compared to the 32 or 24 thread parts (or for that matter how it stacks up to the Ryzen 3950X) . Ultimately the 3990X I'm sure will be a desirable workstation type part - no info yet on it (or TR3000 in general) will be as an overkill gaming/general use enthusiast box or not - despite its likely incredibly price.

This does pose a bit of a quandary though - in TR 1000 and 2000 series there was a delination between the "Enthusiast X" and the "Workstation/Server WX" CPUs , with the former being even somewhat affordable (ie $1000 or less). With the TR 3000 series, shifting the whole range upward to a 1300 starting price for 24 and 2000 for 32... is the intention that all of these are essentially "Workstation/Server WX" only now? Yet they still have new high end ostensibly enthusiast motherboards like the ROG Zenith 2 Extreme on TRX40? So are they just shifting the price upward for the enthusiast stuff too, or are they not "really" focusing on any of that and sticking to the workstation?
 
This does pose a bit of a quandary though - in TR 1000 and 2000 series there was a delination between the "Enthusiast X" and the "Workstation/Server WX" CPUs , with the former being even somewhat affordable (ie $1000 or less). With the TR 3000 series, shifting the whole range upward to a 1300 starting price for 24 and 2000 for 32... is the intention that all of these are essentially "Workstation/Server WX" only now? Yet they still have new high end ostensibly enthusiast motherboards like the ROG Zenith 2 Extreme on TRX40? So are they just shifting the price upward for the enthusiast stuff too, or are they not "really" focusing on any of that and sticking to the workstation?

I think the numa fixes and IPC gains made the 2970wx drop the w when going to the 3970x. The wx title was kind of an extra reminder/disclaimer that it would suck in gaming and single threaded use.
 
I didn't check the price, but I can gather from your second links name, it isn't cheap.

But Jesus... 128t and 288mb of cache? Shit like that ain't cheap.

The server version is around $7k for the chip, was watching the Gamers Nexus vid where they had a dual Epyc Rome server on the table while they built their low cost storage server.
The Epyc server was 1U I think and had a few 7amp fans in it.
 
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