Windows 10 1909

1909 installed fast enough that I was sure it didn’t install and had to check the update logs.
That said my Dell G5 now seems to make an electrical noise that sounds sort of like on old mechanical HDD searching but it has no mechanical drives.

So Intel has a driver update that is Urgent for 1909, but I can’t install it and it tosses an error about how I need to obtain the driver from Dell but Dell’s driver is a few months old. Not sure if the sound and the driver are related but this irks me.
 
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This update wrecked my Sound Blaster drivers Sound Blaster Command so I went back to Sound Blaster Connect 2. I mean it was kinda sketchy anyway to have new Soundblaster drivers
work with the older AE-5 card anyway.
This is the first major update that did not screw up my sound blaster settings. For some reason Windows thinks I have a freaking 5.1 system when all I have is 2.1.
 
[QUOTE = "GoodBoy, post: 1044390893, member: 96501"] La mine ne voulait pas mettre à jour non plus. Essayez encore, il devrait vous dire ce qui le retient. Le mien était Battleeye (ou quelque chose comme ça), qui était emballé avec l'ombre de Stalker de Tchernobyl (le premier). Je viens de le désinstaller, redémarrer. (Ce n'est pas comme si j'avais déjà joué à Stalker en multijoueur)

J'ai fait quelques mises à jour hier soir, alors peut-être que je suis sur 1909 maintenant. [/ QUOTE]
cest facile à vérifier : PARAMETRES /SYSTEME/ INFORMATION SYSTEME (tout en bas du panneau)
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Installed the 1909 update yesterday. Took about 15 minutes, of which about 7 minutes was a couple of reboots. Surprisingly quick really.

Haven't noticed anything new or had any issues. I use Start10 which gives you the old Win7 style start menu, it needed a few seconds to rebuild something and that was it.
 
[QUOTE = "GoodBoy, post: 1044390893, member: 96501"] La mine ne voulait pas mettre à jour non plus. Essayez encore, il devrait vous dire ce qui le retient. Le mien était Battleeye (ou quelque chose comme ça), qui était emballé avec l'ombre de Stalker de Tchernobyl (le premier). Je viens de le désinstaller, redémarrer. (Ce n'est pas comme si j'avais déjà joué à Stalker en multijoueur)

J'ai fait quelques mises à jour hier soir, alors peut-être que je suis sur 1909 maintenant. [/ QUOTE]
cest facile à vérifier : PARAMETRES /SYSTEME/ INFORMATION SYSTEME (tout en bas du panneau)
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he man, no offence, but this forum is english only, as i pointed out to you in another thread.
 
I loaded up the update yesterday, I am going to rerun 3Dmark to see if I bench any different.
I don't notice any difference, the machine is still smoking fast.
 
I can't think of any feature added since Windows 7 that I actually like.

I wish they would just focus on making a competent operating system, not on trying to sell me an ecosystem of services and features

I can't think of a single feature that Windows 7 added, that I liked, other than snap to windows. Vista was far better in every other measurable way. (People claim Windows 10 is flat but, Windows 7 is much flatter than Windows Vista ever was.)
 
Its windows, an ssd can mean nothing in terms of update speed.



Heh, that will make 4 versions of installers on usb's for me.

If you are running off a hard drive, it most certainly does but then again, you already knew that.
 
I'm going to let this one bake a bit before upgrading. A smaller update that seems to fix a few issues while adding some newer capabilities. Wait for the drivers to catch up and then give it a go.

It is basically just a service pack, just so you know.
 
How is Bluetooth on 1909? 1903 broke mine. Couple independent systems. MS forced the update on me about three months ago and it was ever soooo slow afterward. Most always resulted in time out errors. Nothing fixed the problem until the 1903 cumulative update about two weeks ago. So I am a bit apprehensive about 1909 until I know more.
 
How is Bluetooth on 1909? 1903 broke mine. MS forced the update on me about three months ago and it was ever soooo slow afterward. Most always resulted in time out errors. Nothing fixed the problem until the 1903 cumulative update about two weeks ago. So I am a bit apprehensive about 1909 until I know more.

You will be fine, it is essentially nothing more than a service pack now. (Feature updates happen in the first half of the year, going forward.)
 
I can't think of any feature added since Windows 7 that I actually like.

I wish they would just focus on making a competent operating system, not on trying to sell me an ecosystem of services and features

LTSC is the closest you'll get. Even then, some things should've been left alone or not added at all. Like having a new settings menu... what was wrong with control panel? And then you give me access to both? Thats redundant in a stupid way.

I will say, for my two laptops, having Win 10 search microsofts database for drivers and actually finding them was nice, I didn't have to install a single driver on my own. Even found the correct track pad driver.
 
LTSC is the closest you'll get.

I've sought after this option, but have instead gone for using Professional and running the Decrapifier script to clean up stuff first. So far, I've only had to install the Xbox game stuff to get The Outer Worlds running; all other gaming has been golden.

Like having a new settings menu... what was wrong with control panel? And then you give me access to both? Thats redundant in a stupid way.

Microsoft is going for a more 'universal' or perhaps more 'portable' UI for touch devices. They're also keeping the Control Menu around as they update Settings. Honestly, that's the best compromise I can think of.

Note that the portable UI is really needed for 2-in-1s, which are becoming ever more prevalent- see the new XPS13 2-in-1 for an example of a premier option. Control Panel is nice to have and can be faster, but if you're in tablet mode, it's not very easy to use.

I will say, for my two laptops, having Win 10 search microsofts database for drivers and actually finding them was nice, I didn't have to install a single driver on my own. Even found the correct track pad driver.

Now that Microsoft has been rolling their own Linux distros for a while, perhaps they've learned a few things?

;)
 
what was wrong with control panel? And then you give me access to both? Thats redundant in a stupid way.
Microsoft is going for a more 'universal' or perhaps more 'portable' UI for touch devices. They're also keeping the Control Menu around as they update Settings.

Exactly--annoying as it is to the users, they rolled out a minimal Settings app and then added stuff to it over time. Is it a good idea overall? Maybe not. But I guess the figured rather than not introduce it for many years until it was all finished, they'd roll it out in pieces.
 
LTSC is the closest you'll get. Even then, some things should've been left alone or not added at all. Like having a new settings menu... what was wrong with control panel? And then you give me access to both? Thats redundant in a stupid way.

I like LTSC, but as I understand it has two downsides:

1.) I am not an Enterprise. They won't sell it to me.

2.) I could be wrong, but I had heard it suggested that it is by subscription only. I patently reject the software subscription model.
 
I just 'Updated' a Haswell Pc from 1903 to 1909 and it only took minutes. Made me think it didn't take or something. I checked System Info and it surely says 1909. Anybody else experience this rapid fire update ?
 
I just 'Updated' a Haswell Pc from 1903 to 1909 and it only took minutes. Made me think it didn't take or something. I checked System Info and it surely says 1909. Anybody else experience this rapid fire update ?

Most users in the thread have had this experience.

I'm making the assumption that if the machine was mostly up to date already, there wasn't much to do. Note that Microsoft tends to use each six month release to more or less set a feature and security update level, and you see developers use this to set requirements.
 
I like LTSC, but as I understand it has two downsides:

1.) I am not an Enterprise. They won't sell it to me.

2.) I could be wrong, but I had heard it suggested that it is by subscription only. I patently reject the software subscription model.


There are.. other ways, of which cannot be discussed here.
 
The update appeared to be really small as the download was quick as well as the install was quick as well.

I'm good with that!
 
Something to note: MS has included TLS 1.3 experimental with this build. It's supposed to be inactive by default, but it's not. It completely screwed Outlook's connection to Gmail until I found this:

I think i found out the issue. According to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/whats-new-windows-10-version-1909 TLS 1.3 experimental support was added, but it was supposed to be disabled. In my case it enabled itself after the update.

I've changed the registry to look like this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Protocols\TLS 1.3\Client\DisabledByDefault is set to 1

Outlook works again now.
 
I had just done a cumulative update which was already pretty fast and then after that 1909 was available and it seemed to install even faster. At least these smaller updates quit breaking stuff left and right.
 
I just 'Updated' a Haswell Pc from 1903 to 1909 and it only took minutes. Made me think it didn't take or something. I checked System Info and it surely says 1909. Anybody else experience this rapid fire update ?

Second half yearly updates are now essentially service packs, as most have been asking for a while now. :)
 
Something to note: MS has included TLS 1.3 experimental with this build. It's supposed to be inactive by default, but it's not. It completely screwed Outlook's connection to Gmail until I found this:

I think i found out the issue. According to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/whats-new-windows-10-version-1909 TLS 1.3 experimental support was added, but it was supposed to be disabled. In my case it enabled itself after the update.

I've changed the registry to look like this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SecurityProviders\SCHANNEL\Protocols\TLS 1.3\Client\DisabledByDefault is set to 1


Outlook works again now.

Not sure what's up with that, but I didn't have any Outlook issues with either of my Gmail accounts after the update. I just checked that reg path/key on my machine too and don't even have a \TLS1.3 path in the \Protocols directory and there are no keys in \Protocols either.

Anyways, I wonder if any sites have tested a benches or performance metrics after this update now that they've cited better core prioritization in the update log. I'm curious as to if it makes much of a difference on newer Ryzen chips where they have per-core boosting/OC'ing based on the faster cores seen in Ryzen Master.
 
I just 'Updated' a Haswell Pc from 1903 to 1909 and it only took minutes. Made me think it didn't take or something. I checked System Info and it surely says 1909. Anybody else experience this rapid fire update ?

It felt like some of the recent cumulative updates have taken longer to install.
 
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