Building 3 Identical Systems - Please Evaluate

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Fizpez

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Keeping under a $1200 budget and systems will be used for gaming.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X - $235
Video: GeForce 2060 Super (Gigabyte) - $400
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 3000 Mhz 2x8GB - $75
Drive: Samsung EVO 970 500 GB - $100
Power: Corsair RM650x $115
Mobo: MSI Arsenal AM4 B450 $110

Leaving me about $150 for case, OS and a few incidentals. A little worried about the drive size but can throw a SSD in later.
 
Fizpez said:
Keeping under a $1200 budget and systems will be used for gaming.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X - $235
Video: GeForce 2060 Super (Gigabyte) - $400
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 3000 Mhz 2x8GB - $75
Drive: Samsung EVO 970 500 GB - $100
Power: Corsair RM650x $115
Mobo: MSI Arsenal AM4 B450 $110

Leaving me about $150 for case, OS and a few incidentals. A little worried about the drive size but can throw a SSD in later.
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You should consider getting 8 core/16 thread because both Sony and Microsoft are using 8 core/16 thread Ryzens in their 2020 game consoles. At some point next gen, that will be the baseline for AAA game platforms to run at full/max settings. Thus I personally would rather have a Ryzen 2700x for cheaper than the 3600x to future proof a little more — assuming you cant swing the 3700 or 3700x.
Only $130 for the 2700x at microcenter right now
https://slickdeals.net/f/13542679-ryzen-2700x-129-99-129-99?src=frontpage

You are overspending on the power supply.
Heres a 600 watt EVGA, gold rated power supply for $45 AR.
https://slickdeals.net/f/13547923-6...wer-supply-45-ac-ar-newegg?v=1&src=SiteSearch

And you could buy an Asus Prime x570 motherboard for not much more. $127.50 shipped at amazon.
https://slickdeals.net/f/13544671-asus-prime-x570-p-atx-motherboard-127-50?src=frontpage

You are overspending on the hard drive too. 970 EVOs are great drives but for that same money you could get a 1TB HP or Intel NVME drive. The speed difference would be imperceivable to humans absent a stopwatch and reliability is just as good as well. Just double the capacity for the same money.
Intel
https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-1tb/p/N82E16820167462
Or HP
https://www.newegg.com/hp-ex920-1tb/p/N82E16820326778
 
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Archaea said:
You should consider getting 8 core/16 thread because both Sony and Microsoft are using 8 core/16 thread Ryzens in their 2020 game consoles. At some point next gen, that will be the baseline for AAA game platforms to run at full/max settings. Thus I personally would rather have a Ryzen 2700x for cheaper than the 3600x to future proof a little more — assuming you cant swing the 3700 or 3700x.
Only $130 for the 2700x at microcenter right now
https://slickdeals.net/f/13542679-ryzen-2700x-129-99-129-99?src=frontpage

You are overspending on the power supply.
Heres a 600 watt EVGA, gold rated power supply for $45 AR.
https://slickdeals.net/f/13547923-6...wer-supply-45-ac-ar-newegg?v=1&src=SiteSearch

And you could buy an Asus Prime x570 motherboard for not much more. $127.50 shipped at amazon.
https://slickdeals.net/f/13544671-asus-prime-x570-p-atx-motherboard-127-50?src=frontpage

You are overspending on the hard drive too. 970 EVOs are great drives but for that same money you could get a 1TB HP or Intel NVME drive. The speed difference would be imperceivable to humans absent a stopwatch and reliability is just as good as well. Just double the capacity for the same money.
https://www.newegg.com/intel-660p-series-1tb/p/N82E16820167462?Item=N82E16820167462&sdtid=13511125&nm_mc
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Thank you so much! I've been out of the game for almost 5 years now and my knowledge is sorely lacking. I will almost certainly incorporate all of those suggestions.
 
I agree to much for the SSD. Get a 1tb for that.

8 core would be nice but even a 2600x if you can't get that micro center sale will still last for quite a while. And you will have the option to replace with reduced 8 cores down the road if necessary.
 
Archaea said:
Thus I personally would rather have a Ryzen 2700x for cheaper than the 3600x to future proof a little more
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I don't think this is good advice. OP should stick to a 3600x for better performance now and settle for the peace of mind that an upgrade to a 37/38/3900 later if/when necessary will be cheap and easy. I wouldn't recommend Ryzen 1000/2000 to anyone buying new right now unless they were on a very strict budget, had limited time to spend it, or if they were able to find an amazing deal on the CPU that would allow them to move up a tier in GPU.
 
doubletake said:
I don't think this is good advice. OP should stick to a 3600x for better performance now and settle for the peace of mind that an upgrade to a 37/38/3900 later if/when necessary will be cheap and easy. I wouldn't recommend Ryzen 1000/2000 to anyone buying new right now unless they were on a very strict budget, had limited time to spend it, or if they were able to find an amazing deal on the CPU that would allow them to move up a tier in GPU.
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Do you really think there will be much of a difference in gaming performance when pairing either a 2600 or a 3600 with a 2060 super. I can't imagine it being more than a few frames.
 
I agree with what some others have said. You can get Sabrent 1TB NVME drives for $100 (I currently am using their 2TB one) or the Inland ones. They're all using the same Micron controller and Toshiba TLC nand.

I would also try to get an 8 core processor if you can. It's not the biggest priority, but as PS5 and Nextbox will be 8 core machines it will help match up the system for all the inevitable console ports. You can use the money you save elsewhere to get a 3700x. But honestly it might make the most sense to get the 2700x for $190 (or the Microcenter deal above for even less) and spend any amount you save to bump up the graphics card. If you're CPU pound anywhere you'll still be well within an acceptable FPS for this type of build. Enough to say that it won't be noticeable and will be marginal. But the games that would otherwise be CPU limited will not be a problem (and you'll have a faster graphics card to boot).
 
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doubletake said:
I don't think this is good advice. OP should stick to a 3600x for better performance now and settle for the peace of mind that an upgrade to a 37/38/3900 later if/when necessary will be cheap and easy. I wouldn't recommend Ryzen 1000/2000 to anyone buying new right now unless they were on a very strict budget, had limited time to spend it, or if they were able to find an amazing deal on the CPU that would allow them to move up a tier in GPU.
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$130 for 2700x vs $230 for 3600x — would you really pay $100 more for the six core over the last gens eight core? Current prices make this an easy choice if you ask me. 8 core 16 thread game development is absolutely coming.

He pays $130 for the 2700x now and can still upgrade to a newer higher core AM4 when that need arises - just like he could if he bought the 3600x now. But he has an extra $100 in his pocket. Not only that but since the 2700x is quite equitable to the console CPUs you know that CPU will be be fully capable for the next 5-6 years of gaming until the next, next console platform rolls out.

$130 CPU capable of keeping up with whatever game devs write code for during the next 5-6 years? Yes please.

3700x even better - but now you are talking nearly triple the CPU cost for maybe 15% more performance. Spend that $200–$300 more on a better GPU IMO. 2080 instead of 2060 or so. 50% improvement for the same money.
 
Archaea said:
$130 for 2700x vs $230 for 3600x — would you really pay $100 more for the six core over the last gens eight core? Current prices make this an easy choice if you ask me. 8 core 16 thread game development is absolutely coming.

He pays $130 for the 2700x now and can still upgrade to a newer higher core AM4 when that need arises - just like he could if he bought the 3600x now. But he has an extra $100 in his pocket. Not only that but since the 2700x is quite equitable to the console CPUs you know that CPU will be be fully capable for the next 5-6 years of gaming until the next, next console platform rolls out.

$130 CPU capable of keeping up with whatever game devs write code for during the next 5-6 years? Yes please.

3700x even better - but now you are talking nearly triple the CPU cost for maybe 15% more performance. Spend that $200–$300 more on a better GPU IMO. 2080 instead of 2060 or so. 50% improvement for the same money.
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I agree for sure. Although the MC deal is not available for many, but if there is one near would be a great buy. The $100 either spent elsewhere would probably go further.
 
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