dark_reign
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Get 'em free while you can!So its like GoG at the moment?
So it goes like this as I understand: Your friend buys a game on his account. Logs in to the epic launcher using his account on your computer, downloads the game, then logs out. Then you log in to your account the game will still be playable even though you never purchased it.
One could say that's an...wait for it..."epic" screw up
True, but they kind of deserved it. Half baked store, exclusivity nonsense, etc.The only reason anyone cares about this "news" is because it deals with Epic and bad news about EGS gets clicks regardless of its validity.
True, but they kind of deserved it. Half baked store, exclusivity nonsense, etc.
These exploits aren't EGS working-as-intended. That's the disconnect you seem to be missing in your defense. It's epic's ineptitude and general disinterest in actually putting effort into creating a viable store. Publishers are not happy with this situation.They deserve to be called out on actual issues. Making things up or making a mountain out of a mole hill does no one any good and just makes the valid complaints seem weaker.
Exclusivity is a molehill?They deserve to be called out on actual issues. Making things up or making a mountain out of a mole hill does no one any good and just makes the valid complaints seem weaker.
These exploits aren't EGS working-as-intended. That's the disconnect you seem to be missing in your defense. It's epic's ineptitude and general disinterest in actually putting effort into creating a viable store. Publishers are not happy with this situation.
If these were intended features then they'd be advertised as so. Get a grip.
Exclusivity is a molehill?
It's been like this the entire time. This isn't a new "vulnerability" like the article says.
EGS doesn't have DRM so if the game doesn't add any that's exactly how it is supposed to work.
You can even download games, uninstall EGS, and still play them.
These exploits aren't EGS working-as-intended. That's the disconnect you seem to be missing in your defense. It's epic's ineptitude and general disinterest in actually putting effort into creating a viable store. Publishers are not happy with this situation.
If these were intended features then they'd be advertised as so.
Right, Steam has the same "issue." You buy older games with no DRM, you can launch the games directly without loading Steam, and may copy the game wherever you want.
I bought Total Annihilation on Steam, and it has no DRM.
There actually is DRM - called EOS (Epic Online Services), but its such barebones dogshit that publishers aren't bothering the way most do with Steamworks and steam-launcher-integrated games. Again, EGS isn't trading on "DRM FREE" as a store selling point.You aren't supposed to, but there is nothing to stop it because there is no DRM. Same with Steam and GOG. If the publishers wanted DRM they should've implemented some.
It isn't even older games, you just have to opt out of DRM. Most publishers use it though.
This happened with Control a while back. A recent update included DRM and people got upset, so they turned it back off because customers considered it false advertising or something.
There actually is DRM - called EOS (Epic Online Services), but its such barebones dogshit that publishers aren't bothering the way most do with Steamworks and steam-launcher-integrated games. Again, EGS isn't trading on "DRM FREE" as a store selling point.
So publishers that had any expectation that the launcher would at least be able to handle authentication without EOS integration, will have to reevaluate their store choices as this gains exposure.
People defending this as "but its always been that way" like that means it doesn't matter, or that its always been a selling point, are being disingenuous.
The takeaway is it makes EGS look like a joke, it's not the kind of publicity they want if their intention is to attract more publishers rather than just getting games deleted from Steam.
If this makes EGS look like a joke then so is GOG and so are all DRM free games on Steam. Why does it matter if Epic is advertising games as DRM free or not? That is entirely irrelevant and feels like you are trying to make up some argument to make this seem like some major issue. Studios are free to implement their own DRM service if they don’t like Epic’s and don’t want their games DRM free. If publishers don’t like their games being DRM free that is their fault for not putting DRM on it. It is not Epic’s responsibility to enable DRM for them. You, rather conveniently, ignored my response to you by the way. Perhaps you have no way to refute it and just want to keep making the same taking points without being challenged on them?