Netflix Password Sharing Crackdown

I pay 17 bucks a month for a 4 device plan...I understand we all have different needs and taste in media, but personally I think its a deal at that price.

It's a deal if they have enough things you like on it, but I find I personally don't enjoy enough of their media to justify the cost, and most of my content comes by other means truthfully. That last part makes my household a lose lose for what they're aiming at since I have no need of having it overall. At the moment, we share a plan with a friend out in Cali that my better half used to live with. The once in a blue moon she binges a new release show is enough to justify the $50 we give her each year for it, or we stick a kids show on once in a while, still worth it then. But I couldn't see myself giving them $108 for a single screen or $190 for 4, though I won't say it'd stop me if it came to it. It isn't that the content isn't good enough, but at a couple shows for a season each year, a blu ray collection would be cheaper with youtube can fill in most show gaps for the kids entertainment that I can't readily download already. I think my main outlook is that you're paying for the screen count... the limit should be the number of screens, not the location of those screens (outside of whatever content deals they have in place, like when I'm in Korea for work, i expect different content availability).

If they go through with the crackdown, yeah, they'll lose some people, gain others who can't get away from netflix, and it'll break even overall for them. If they're smart about it, offer up a family shared plan with different logins and make that a $20/mo price for 1 or 2 screens per account or preferably a max for the plan itself, then crack down on sharing. Most of those who would originally just call it quits will just deal with the increase since it isn't severe (myself included), and those who get hit by the crackdown when family moves away to college and such (my mother in laws husband would be one, his kids use his and went off to college), they will probably just suck it up too, more revenue for them in the end.

Then again, $60 for a year is half way to another shucked 8tb drive, so there's that to consider.
 
I have zero emotional attachment to Netflix and would not mind if they went out of business.
Too many woke specials, and too often canceling good shows like Santa Clarita and Travelers (and dozens more) just when they get going for 3 seasons.
Also, anything that gives college kids the sadz is something I'm on board with as a general principal.
Apparently this has to do with the cost of shows. The big one for me was The AO. The end set the show up for a very different S3 and they cancelled. That said, I liked the 2 you mentioned and didn't even know SC was cancelled. At least with Travelers it had relatively decent ending (albeit one that could have allowed them to do more seasons).

Deadline describes why it's believed many of these shows get cancelled after 3 seasons: https://deadline.com/2019/04/santa-clarita-diet-canceled-netflix-three-seasons-1202602903/
 
FWIW, I think this is fine, if they drop pricing. As it stands, they're quite a bit more expensive than some of the newer services. I'm not sure how apple will work, but with D+, you're getting a huge catalog and allegedly it's all in 4K, while Netflix want's a premium for 4K.

All that said, there's no way Netflix is going away. People here may not like their content, but it's still generally got more stuff than I can watch (though I haven't watched much TV for the last month or 2, which will continue until at least December.
 
If they go through with the crackdown, yeah, they'll lose some people, gain others who can't get away from netflix, and it'll break even overall for them.
They'll do better than breakeven because it'll be a whole lot less bandwidth, network congestion and CDN spend that the removed freeloaders and leeches will no longer be costing them. Big cut to overhead.
 
Hilarious to me when people talk about canceling services like Netflix over basic crap like this. Tell your kids not to go get a scone and a non-fat venti caramel latte with light foam and a dash of cinnamon once a month and they can get their own Netflix account -_-
 
meh as much as i like netflix i don't use it enough to justify the price so i let my parents use my account so at least what i'm spending gets used.. if they start cracking down on that i'll probably just cancel it since i'm sick of their bs 3 season limit on most of their shows.. just not worth me caring about them anymore. still not paying for disney's garbage though.

Apparently this has to do with the cost of shows. The big one for me was The AO. The end set the show up for a very different S3 and they cancelled. That said, I liked the 2 you mentioned and didn't even know SC was cancelled. At least with Travelers it had relatively decent ending (albeit one that could have allowed them to do more seasons).

Deadline describes why it's believed many of these shows get cancelled after 3 seasons: https://deadline.com/2019/04/santa-clarita-diet-canceled-netflix-three-seasons-1202602903/

travelers being ended pissed me off to no end.. that show was actually good.

and no it has nothing to do with the cost of the shows. their argument is that "new" shows brings in new subscribers.. multi-season shows don't, they just keeps current subscribers longer which isn't important to the share holders.
 
As for canceling shows... Ive read on a handful of occasions that, much like actors demanding more money when something becomes succesful, the contracts to extend these shows gets so bloated with demands that it doesnt even make sense to try to continue it.

I have thought to myself on numerous occasions that some of the Netflix original movies that are really good should be put in theaters for a month or two and then rolled into the Netflix library of movies. Even if a show only generates 20 million extra bucks for Netflix... thats 20 million they would have otherwise not had.
 
I pay for everything I use. Netflix is $13 a month. I think EVERYONE can afford that.
Affordable, but may not be worth it for some unless you just use Netflix. Add Disney's upcoming streaming service and then you're paying even more.
 
I'm 'guilty' of this. I share my Prime account with my parents and they share Netflix with me. If Netflix does crack down on this I probably won't sign up for my own account.

Not because I blame Netflix, but because they just don't have enough quality content for me to justify another $10 a month subscription.
 
Soon we will all be dead and our kids will just be watching people, watching netflix, on youtube and twitch. Then subs will really plummet lol.

As a parent I see my kids are already very close to this outcome, minus the netflix. But damn they love to watch others on youtube doing things they could be doing themselves or when they're not doing actual act/game in video.
 
Remember what people used to pay for cable tv or dish? If you canceled that for streaming you can subscribe to several different streaming services and still come out ahead.
 
Remember what people used to pay for cable tv or dish? If you canceled that for streaming you can subscribe to several different streaming services and still come out ahead.

Seems like you define the acceptable threshold ?

I've never paid for cable nor will I (Can't stand the almost 50% adds).
I pay for Netflix and Spotify for my sister and close friend since they can't afford it. If they lock this to one IP I'll simply cancel everything.

They seem to think that they'll convert 100% of those sharing to new accounts, make me laugh... I think they may even lose more than they create.
 
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Yeah if they lock it to one IP I might cancel too. HBO go / prime have much better content anyway. Netflix is the master of cranking out lots of certified rotten movies that according to their updated algorithm have a highly recommended match. It all went downhill when they stopped using actual user ratings for their content.
 
I'm rather surprised the bean counters took this long to start a push for this. Of course they think they will gain more accounts after the fallout ends. Implementing a family plan in which (like my company) you have a master device that can add additional devices that have at least once been on the same IP(basic filtering by mac address and current IP compared to the master device doing the add) would be simple and flexible way to do it. Personally I have a Netflix account along with Amazon prime that I pay for but still watch that content on my illegal way of getting the content on my plexus server. I add what I want to my automation they get my stuff and I don't have to dig through the other deal.
 
Seems like you define the acceptable threshold ?

I've never paid for cable nor will I (Can't stand the almost 50% adds).
I pay for Netflix and Spotify for my sister and close friend since they can't afford it. If they lock this to one IP I'll simply cancel everything.

They seem to think that they'll convert 100% of those sharing to new accounts, make me laugh... I think they may even lose more than they create.

it's the same mentality the movie/music industry has is that every illegal download is a guaranteed sales loss.. but ultimately this is the mindless netflix shareholders that have no grasp on reality controlling this decision.

As for canceling shows... Ive read on a handful of occasions that, much like actors demanding more money when something becomes succesful, the contracts to extend these shows gets so bloated with demands that it doesnt even make sense to try to continue it.

I have thought to myself on numerous occasions that some of the Netflix original movies that are really good should be put in theaters for a month or two and then rolled into the Netflix library of movies. Even if a show only generates 20 million extra bucks for Netflix... thats 20 million they would have otherwise not had.

sadly that's not how theaters work.. the theaters have to pay for the movie up front then the production company gets a percentage of the ticket sale on top of that. but netflix recently tried to get one of their movies in theaters and they refused to take it. but yeah i think i remember hearing about the scaling contract thing now that you mention it.
 
Nice editorialized title. The clickbait gene runs in you quite well.

Click bait? Really? It brought the article to my attention. This is the news section, if you dont like news and titles that get your attention then how about hanging over at wccftech. I see nothing wrong with the OPs choice of title. NOTHING!
 
Forget cracking down on login sharing ... due to the Netflix negative free cash flow business model, when Disney+ is launched Netflix is dead.
 
meh as much as i like netflix i don't use it enough to justify the price so i let my parents use my account so at least what i'm spending gets used.. if they start cracking down on that i'll probably just cancel it since i'm sick of their bs 3 season limit on most of their shows.. just not worth me caring about them anymore. still not paying for disney's garbage though.



travelers being ended pissed me off to no end.. that show was actually good.

and no it has nothing to do with the cost of the shows. their argument is that "new" shows brings in new subscribers.. multi-season shows don't, they just keeps current subscribers longer which isn't important to the share holders.
Who is your source inside of Netflix?
 
As for canceling shows... Ive read on a handful of occasions that, much like actors demanding more money when something becomes succesful, the contracts to extend these shows gets so bloated with demands that it doesnt even make sense to try to continue it.

I have thought to myself on numerous occasions that some of the Netflix original movies that are really good should be put in theaters for a month or two and then rolled into the Netflix library of movies. Even if a show only generates 20 million extra bucks for Netflix... thats 20 million they would have otherwise not had.
This all comes down to Netflix not giving theaters a window (I think the min window is 6 weeks...maybe 3 months). AMC is a chain that wants that minimum window or they won't show a movie. I'm not sure why, since most of the money on these movies will be made in the first 2 or 3 weeks, but that is why movies from Amazon go into theaters and those from Netflix rarely do. Now what I find weird about that rule, however is whenever that Nancy Drew movie came out earlier this year, AMC showed it and it was on DVD within weeks of the initial release.

But I"m sure it's increased costs, though in some cases, especially with the OA, it pisses me off, because they almost certainly knew there was a 5 year story arc when they first showed it and they certainly knew that by the time the 2nd season was in production.
 
Affordable, but may not be worth it for some unless you just use Netflix. Add Disney's upcoming streaming service and then you're paying even more.
This is an argument I don't get. You don't have to subscribe to these services every month. Pick one up and binge whatever shows you like and drop it. Watch another service and binge those for a month or 2. Switch to another...and so on.

The idea that you have to have every service every month makes no sense. The the big difference between Cable and Streaming is there's no activation (or in some cases deactivation) fee.
 
This is an argument I don't get. You don't have to subscribe to these services every month. Pick one up and binge whatever shows you like and drop it. Watch another service and binge those for a month or 2. Switch to another...and so on.
But that would eventually become a hassle for some. People are lazy. They want everything on one service and they want it cheap.
 
Click bait? Really? It brought the article to my attention. This is the news section, if you dont like news and titles that get your attention then how about hanging over at wccftech. I see nothing wrong with the OPs choice of title. NOTHING!

I changed the title rather than closing the thread. It was clickbait and it was inappropriate. The next instance of some doing it will see the thread deleted.
 
Click bait? Really? It brought the article to my attention. This is the news section, if you dont like news and titles that get your attention then how about hanging over at wccftech. I see nothing wrong with the OPs choice of title. NOTHING!

I changed the title rather than closing the thread. It was clickbait and it was inappropriate. The next instance of some doing it will see the thread deleted.

Yeah, the title was "Netflix will be dead in 2 years" or something stupid like that.

Anyways, I'm good with this.. though my mom may not be who's been mooching off of me for the past couple years, hah. I could easily kill my sub too and just use my buddy's Plex server that has virtually everything on it and a page I can request anything on in case it doesn't have something. But it's so cheap and it's more reliable to just use the service so I don't see the point in cancelling it.
 
Well, then I guess both of my kids (who are away at college) are gonna be real disappointed then, cause we all share the same account, in addition to the 4 Roku's at home when they are there....

So Netfilx should just give us a shared family plan & be happy, yes ?

Or you know you finally turn on the VPN portion of that firewall you purchased years ago. Learn a little bit about network security. Get your kids to VPN in to your home network for streaming content and such. And all of a sudden Netflix or anyone else thinks your kids are surfing from home watching and doing everything. Oh and their friends in the dorms that might want to steal their access get denied unless they want to put forth some effort to crack the encryption. 99.9% of the time that slight bit of security effort will protect everything your kids do online.

I mean really... guys... this won't hurt the tech savvy. "Netflix reduces to x number of public IP's available to stream at x time." Is the route they SHOULD go... then your home with your consumer internet connection could stream away 99 streams if you so wanted... cap it at like I dunno.. 10. And the number of OTHER IP's would represent those travelling and such.

If course if you all VPN to the same place... at home... well all of those problems go away because it all looks like home based streams.
 
FWIW, I think this is fine, if they drop pricing. As it stands, they're quite a bit more expensive than some of the newer services. I'm not sure how apple will work, but with D+, you're getting a huge catalog and allegedly it's all in 4K, while Netflix want's a premium for 4K.

All that said, there's no way Netflix is going away. People here may not like their content, but it's still generally got more stuff than I can watch (though I haven't watched much TV for the last month or 2, which will continue until at least December.

ahem.. "There is no way Blockbuster is going away. Customers like being able to visit a store and pick a movie from their shelves. It's more than they could watch in a lifetime. (Though really I haven't rented from them for a month or 2, which will continue until at least December.)"

You see what I did there? Yea yea I know it was a combination of things that killed Blockbuster... basically netflix and the ubiquitous redbox. But Netflix has challengers to their market share already... and it's more than two.
 
They already limit how many can watch at once (2 on my account) and also limit how many accounts total you can have.

I don’t have a problem with this corporate slight tightening of the typical ethical expectations of a paid service. I do have a problem with Netflix raising my rates by $2 a month every year to pay $40 million to the likes of Will Smith or Adam Sandler for seriously overpriced and under performing Netflix Original content. I’ll forgo the expensive mainstream actors and original content to keep my monthly subscription cost down please... or I’ll move on.

https://www.businessinsider.com/wil...ade-millions-for-bad-movies-on-netflix-2018-8
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I have a bigger problem paying for propaganda laden origins in hopes something will stick. They never were profitable but things turned to hemorrhaging when Soros bought in and brought on Obama & Friends. Since then, the Netflix Originals list of new originals grew exponentially along with the failure rate.
 
I have a bigger problem paying for propaganda laden origins in hopes something will stick. They never were profitable but things turned to hemorrhaging when Soros bought in and brought on Obama & Friends. Since then, the Netflix Originals list of new originals grew exponentially along with the failure rate.

I agree, which was the primary reason I left a couple of months back. That and the fact that at one time, you could simply ignore the propaganda, until they started shoving it in your face every. single. time. you started Netflix up.
 
The smart thing to do for netflix would be to make a family share plan, give up to 4 unique login locations and profiles for say 1.5x normal sub rate but restrict to a max of 2 login at the same time.

I pay for 4 streams, i should get my 4 streams. What the fuck does my billing address have to do with that? Part of netflix's value is in being portable.

Also.. massive deja vu. Did ewe not go through this last quarter or something?
 
I pay for 4 streams, i should get my 4 streams. What the fuck does my billing address have to do with that? Part of netflix's value is in being portable.

Also.. massive deja vu. Did ewe not go through this last quarter or something?
Or like how youtube tv does it, but cheaper.
 
People can't cancel because of this since they would no longer get their exclusives. That's the game these shit bag streaming services play. What one offers the others don't and vice versa

Those who are already using Netflix less might cancel because they or someone they know is affected, but if you're someone who's sharing and not paying, you think they won't pony up the 10 bucks a month to finish orange is the new black?

Free trials left and right too, click, click, click, subbed
 
People can't cancel because of this since they would no longer get their exclusives. That's the game these shit bag streaming services play. What one offers the others don't and vice versa

Those who are already using Netflix less might cancel because they or someone they know is affected, but if you're someone who's sharing and not paying, you think they won't pony up the 10 bucks a month to finish orange is the new black?

Free trials left and right too, click, click, click, subbed

Lol, really ? I know for sure that the people I share with won't pony up the money and will wait either to get it from another source (duh) or until I decide to be a nice guy and setup a VPN thru my IP.

Anyway I just saw headlines of Netflix saying this is fake. Not sure how legit the fake news is but oh well.
 
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But that would eventually become a hassle for some. People are lazy. They want everything on one service and they want it cheap.
And then there are those of us who live in the real world. If you're too lazy to cancel a service, that's on you. If you want every show in the world on one servic,e then expect to pay roughly what you'd pay for cable with all the premiums. It's unbelievable that people complained for decades about no ala carte service. Now it's available and they're pissed that ala carte doesn't come with every show.
 
ahem.. "There is no way Blockbuster is going away. Customers like being able to visit a store and pick a movie from their shelves. It's more than they could watch in a lifetime. (Though really I haven't rented from them for a month or 2, which will continue until at least December.)"
You see what I did there? Yea yea I know it was a combination of things that killed Blockbuster... basically netflix and the ubiquitous redbox. But Netflix has challengers to their market share already... and it's more than two.

Which is why I said they may have to lower their price at the same time they stop password sharing. That said, stopping password sharing will likely be very difficult, since people do travel with their netflix account. Devil's in the details and at this point, there are no details, so why worry about it?
 
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