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Awesome... do you think $150 is worth the difference between 16-16-16-36 and 16-19-19-39?


i ended up pulling the trigger on https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861 (it had dropped from 279 USD (last week) to now 194 USD today)

You could probably run the ram at 16-16-16-36 with voltage around 1.45 if its B-die.

I have the below in my system.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232560?Item=N82E16820232560

It actually does 16-15-15-15-32 at 3600 or 16-16-16-32 at 3733mhz just fine with 1.45v. I am using the Fast preset from ryzen dram calculator at 3733 for both for subtimings. Only reason I ordered the 14-14-14-34 3200mhz kit as I read they OC really good. But you should be able to push yours to 16-16-16-36 though.
 
So he updated bios and had issues and he is so mad at AMD. ROFL. Its probably because he got the waterloop in, which is a bitch to probably remove the board.

I built my whole loop on top of the MB. It booted right up first time after loop was bled. I'd say its user error. Oh haha, hard tubing... the downside! Eew, MSI... I hated my MSI Carbon AC Pro on my 7820x. Their crap was so unstable. Half the time the thing would not boot, come up with errors. And most of the time it would not even make it thru a restart, lol.
 
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I built my whole loop on top of the MB. It booted right up first time after loop was bled. I'd say its user error. Oh haha, hard tubing... the downside! Eew, MSI... I hated my MSI Carbon AC Pro on my 7820x. Their crap was so unstable. Half the time the thing would not boot, come up with errors. And most of the time it would not even make it thru a restart, lol.

That's weird, was it the earlier firmware's? I haven't had any stability problems with it.
 
That's weird, was it the earlier firmware's? I haven't had any stability problems with it.

I was on the latest and I kept looking for new ones but they stopped releasing them. It worked fine once into windows, but damn, just getting into windows was a fight. Sometimes simply rebooting from a windoze update brought up the prompt that an overclock failed... smh.
 
I was on the latest and I kept looking for new ones but they stopped releasing them. It worked fine once into windows, but damn, just getting into windows was a fight. Sometimes simply rebooting from a windoze update brought up the prompt that an overclock failed... smh.


I'm not going to discount the issue's you have had, but I'll say this


I've installed 4 different processors on my x299 carbon pro ac. Three sets of memory modules. Various ssd arrangements (Samsung pm961, intel p3700, hgst sn260, and some other randoms). The only time I ever got a board boot failure was due to overclocking and power issues.


As for shitty bios's x299 had some special ones, particularly the very first spectre/meltdown firmware, and a couple of the beginning ones. That said so did some of the x370's.

I'm not going to side rail this any further. Sorry erik.
 
I think all the parts you picked out look good. I know that asus have had some recent complaints on the x570 crosshair, but just about all of them have had some complaints.


I'm currently using a 3900x // aurous x570 master.
 
3950X delayed until November is rough, but hopefully the overall X570 is more stable by then anyhow ?
 
So he updated bios and had issues and he is so mad at AMD. ROFL. Its probably because he got the waterloop in, which is a bitch to probably remove the board.

I'm doing a build for a friend and I threw the CPU on the board, configured the RAM and put an OS on it etc. before putting it into the case and adding the loop. The UEFI is updated already so that I don't have to worry about draining the loop and pulling the hardware back out for testing.
 
I'm doing a build for a friend and I threw the CPU on the board, configured the RAM and put an OS on it etc. before putting it into the case and adding the loop. The UEFI is updated already so that I don't have to worry about draining the loop and pulling the hardware back out for testing.

Yea I saw his another video it looked like he worked on the build for a bit and now it was all built and he was having issues. I would be super frustrated if I did that, thats why I started using AIO for the ease of use just for my peace of mind so I don't lose it lol. He looked beyond frustrated because now if he wants to change the board or anything its a pain. He was losing it in the video lol.
 
also Budget 570 board VRMs might not be up to the task of handling the 3950X because some are already struggling with the 3900X

That should be a solid DUH! Same result when putting a 9900K in a cheapo board.
Whats new?Enthusiast parts don't pair well with cheap garbage? Film @ 11.
 
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That should be a solid DUH! Same result when putting a 9900K in a cheapo board.
Whats new?Enthusiast parts don't pair well with cheap garbage? Film @ 11.


The Crosshair VIII Hero is a budget board?

i wasn't looking forward to Dominus Extreme prices to run a 3950X :(

750 to 1800+ USD for a mobo seems crazy
 
The Crosshair VIII Hero is a budget board?

i wasn't looking forward to Dominus Extreme prices to run a 3950X :(

750 to 1800+ USD for a mobo seems crazy
Did you watch the video? Who said you need to spend $750-1800? Where do you even find AM4 boards that cost that?
 
That should be a solid DUH! Same result when putting a 9900K in a cheapo board.
Whats new?Enthusiast parts don't pair well with cheap garbage? Film @ 11.

My 9900KF @ 5Ghz runs great in my $180 MSI z390 MPG Gaming.

There’s a VRM chart on reddit somewhere for AMD. Should be able to find a decent board that isn’t crazy expensive. If you’re running stock it shouldn’t be hard. Now if you’re custom cooling and manual OCing 16 cores that’s different...

Here I even found it for you guys:

There’s 200Amp boards for around $350 for OCing madness. If you’re not OCing you can get something way cheaper.
 
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My 9900KF @ 5Ghz runs great in my $180 MSI z390 MPG Gaming.
Exactly. It isn't the price but what your getting for the price. Many MB makers will use the same VRM setup through multi tiers of product, just paying more for bells and whistles. There are cheaper boards that are good and cheaper boards that are shit. To a lesser extent the same can be said for some higher end models unfortunately.
 
Have to agree that SA is mearly speculating. Demand is so high for EPYC that they need all the 8 core chiplets they can get apparently. I still think there is a process improvement coming. Possibly see a second stepping. There always is a second stepping.
 
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I don't trust Seeking Alpha, a lot of fake stock speculations i have seen in google newsfeed
 
I just got an MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus. I now get single core speeds of 4550 on several cores when running Cinebench R20 with an increase on both benchs over my Tomohawk 450. I also saw peaks in AIDA64 to 4550mhz as well. I could use faster RAM I am sure but I just bought some Corsair Vengence Pro RGB 3600 that I am running at 3800 right now. This is all with just the standard PPO on and EDC set to 192A and TDC at 144A. The most I could get single core from the B450 board was 4300. I was not going to update the board but MSI did not release the new BIOS for the Tomohawk B450.
 
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Not the best being a 4x8 GB kit for Ryzen 3000 series? been hearing that it's preferrable to run only 2x DIMMs with Ryzen 3000 series
 
^^Adding to the above, yer primed to slap another 32gb in there. More ram will up your multi core performance too.
 
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Man, it looks like the 3950x is gonna defeat the purpose of HEDT for 99.5% of people. There's no point going HEDT unless you like burning money.

For enthusiasts like the OP appears to be, yup. That's been mostly true for years though.

Now, it's more that the extra cores are actually needed or that the extra connectivity is needed, and given the cost deltas involved, the solution should probably be balanced with having multiple separate systems.
 
Man, it looks like the 3950x is gonna defeat the purpose of HEDT for 99.5% of people. There's no point going HEDT unless you like burning money.

I have a 3900x that I use for facebook and web browsing, the box in my sig. I also do gaming every once in a while and am getting more into that but I got the 3900x just because I can. I will probably go to the 3950x, just because I can, when it is out.
 
Awesome... do you think $150 is worth the difference between 16-16-16-36 and 16-19-19-39?


i ended up pulling the trigger on https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861 (it had dropped from 279 USD (last week) to now 194 USD today)

I find myself reading this thread again. As it happens I need some matching ram. I have the TridentZ 3600 16-16-16 that I used with Intel hedt. I swapped those to my 3900x build. And so I was going to get more ram to re-use the ole 7820x... drop that into my kids rig. But gdamn man, the sticks are so expensive for the B-die. Newegg has a sale on 2x8gb TridentZ's, 15-15-15-35. I suppose I could get two sets of those and drop those into mah 3900x and throw the C16's into my kids rig... decisions decisions.

I did a lil more reading and those Trident Neo's are a little better, two less layers anyways. You can get the Neos in the same latencies at a premium. Hmm, 32GB 2x16 Neos in C16-16-16 or 32GB 4x18 TZR C15-15-15 for 300 bucks...
 
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I'm not going to discount the issue's you have had, but I'll say this


I've installed 4 different processors on my x299 carbon pro ac. Three sets of memory modules. Various ssd arrangements (Samsung pm961, intel p3700, hgst sn260, and some other randoms). The only time I ever got a board boot failure was due to overclocking and power issues.


As for shitty bios's x299 had some special ones, particularly the very first spectre/meltdown firmware, and a couple of the beginning ones. That said so did some of the x370's.

I'm not going to side rail this any further. Sorry erik.

As it happens I decided to keep the ole 7820x and hand it down to one of my kids. Thus I've been rebuilding it albeit w/o full watercooling, went with a 240mm AIO. I tried out the latest bios, v1D and it's been darn stable. Though this is only at 4.4ghz to 4.5ghz as the 240mm struggles w/ anything higher. I've yet to encounter any of the issues I had before. It seems pretty mature now... lol. They did a lot of "improvements" from bios 1A to 1D, so yea, it's not so hated anymore. :D
 
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