So, it turns out that 5700 cards won't work on Windows 8.1...

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Replacing a gtx 970 (awesome card).
Uninstalled drivers using DDU in safe mode.
Installed brand new 5700 Pulse.
Tried installing most recent Adrenalin drivers... "hardware not found."
Windows 7 drivers don't work. Tried using compatibility mode.
Same for Windows 10 drivers.
Tried a couple of earlier drivers. Same problem.

So, it looks like I'm screwed. I don't really want to upgrade to Windows 10 since I have everything set up the way I want it now. Never had a problem. My concern is that some programs may stop working, and I don't know whether everything is transferred over (browser passwords, program settings, programs, etc.)
I also have automatic backup set up using Macrium Reflect across numerous hard drives... I wouldn't want that to be impacted.
I also read that upgrading to W10 from W8.1 causes a performance impact. Not sure how accurate that is; perhaps it varies on a case-by-case basis.

Has anyone else been in the same boat? If so, did you find a solution (other than a clean install)?

Thanks for reading.
 
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Win 7 drivers did work just fine for my RX 590 card under Win 8.1 No idea about 5700 though.
 
. I don't really want to upgrade to Windows 10 since I have everything set up the way I want it now. Never had a problem. My concern is that some programs may stop working, and I don't know whether everything is transferred over (browser passwords, program settings, programs, etc.)
I also have automatic backup set up using Macrium Reflect across numerous hard drives... I wouldn't want that to be impacted.
I also read that upgrading to W10 from W8.1 causes a performance impact. Not sure how accurate that is; perhaps it varies on a case-by-case basis.

Has anyone else been in the same boat? If so, did you find a solution (other than a clean install)?
Regarding Win 10 upgrade, it should have no issues with keeping all the old settings. I have not seen any performance impact after upgrading Win 8.1 to 10.
 
I had no idea 5700 buyers were afraid of using windows 10? ok so sell the card and switch to green team!:wtf: AMD is putting all there resources into polishing drivers and what not for Windows 10 and thats NOT going to change
 
LTSB is very fast and lightweight without all the extra crap you don't need. I don't regret switching from Win7 and I held out for a while.

I use hundreds of apps and only a couple that are over a decade old don't work, though with tweaking I could probably make them work. But, no big deal.
 
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I had no idea 5700 buyers were afraid of using windows 10? ok so sell the card and switch to green team!:wtf: AMD is putting all there resources into polishing drivers and what not for Windows 10 and thats NOT going to change

And that's why nvidia get's my money and not AMD.
 
LTSB is very fast and lightweight without all the extra crap you don't need. I don't regret switching from Win7 and I held out for a while.

I use hundreds of apps and only a couple that are over a decade old don't work, though with tweaking I could probably make them work. But, no big deal.

I can get Tie Fighter from the 90's working on Windows 10.
 
That makes no sense when they still support Windows 7.


If you look at Steam numbers yes it does. W7 is still 22% of Steam users. W8 is only 3%. The same is true for the broader internet, with both NetMarketshare and StatCounter showing 8.x's market share is much smaller than W7/10's. Like with XP/Vista a decade ago, W7 has a vocal group clinging to it while W8 users largely upgraded to W10 when it became available.
 
Guess what? nVidia doesn't support Windows 8/8.1 anymore either.
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https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/436.15/436.15-win10-win8-win7-release-notes.pdf
 
Nvidia's download page doesn't list Win8 as an option for RTX cards; just W10/7 and a few flavors of *nix; other GPU families do list W8. That has me curious if W8's not being listed for RXT cards is an oversight; a harbinger of things to come; or that the releases notes are missing an asterisk noting no W8 support for RTX cards.

Unfortunately I don't have suitable systems to test anything out.
 
Windows 8 was almost Vista 2.0. I can't forsee any reason to choose 8/8.1 over W10 at this point.
 
To OP, just do it. You will thank yourself in the end. You will feel completely at home with Win 10 in about a week.
 
AMD dropped support for Windows 8/8.1 back in mid 2017.

Yet still support windows 7...
If you look at Steam numbers yes it does. W7 is still 22% of Steam users. W8 is only 3%. The same is true for the broader internet, with both NetMarketshare and StatCounter showing 8.x's market share is much smaller than W7/10's. Like with XP/Vista a decade ago, W7 has a vocal group clinging to it while W8 users largely upgraded to W10 when it became available.

I have one of my rigs still on Windows7.
I upgraded from 7 Pro to 10 pro, then reverted back. Never bother to re-install Win10, it's a dual-booter anyways.



If I had my choice, I would pay $1k for a multi-PC license for a modern version of Windows 98, or XP.
 
Yet still support windows 7...


I have one of my rigs still on Windows7.
I upgraded from 7 Pro to 10 pro, then reverted back. Never bother to re-install Win10, it's a dual-booter anyways.



If I had my choice, I would pay $1k for a multi-PC license for a modern version of Windows 98, or XP.


Good news is you can get it for $10-100 bucks in the form of a Windows 10 Pro key :eek::eek::eek:
 
tbh this makes me not want to consider AMD for my next gfx card.
I run Windows 7, when will they suddenly drop it?
Much sooner than NVidia it seems.

If they want to gain traction in the market they shouldnt chop sections of it off without notice and prematurely.
My lack of trust with them has a long foundation, yet I was prepared to try them again.
Perhaps not.
 
tbh this makes me not want to consider AMD for my next gfx card.
I run Windows 7, when will they suddenly drop it?
Much sooner than NVidia it seems.

If they want to gain traction in the market they shouldnt chop sections of it off without notice and prematurely.
My lack of trust with them has a long foundation, yet I was prepared to try them again.
Perhaps not.

Win 7 will not end before mid 2020. By that point most will have migrated off the platform (or so we should all hope to keep the botnets down).
 
Win 7 will not end before mid 2020. By that point most will have migrated off the platform (or so we should all hope to keep the botnets down).
Windows 8.1 ends even later yet it has been dropped.
If they dont want speculation they had better lay down their intention.
 
It'd be forgivable, as a budget saving exercise, if Windows 7 was unpopular and was architecturally different from Windows 10.

'Unfortunately', it isn't on both counts.
 
Windows 8.1 ends even later yet it has been dropped.
If they dont want speculation they had better lay down their intention.

ultimately it comes down to how much microsoft pressures AMD, intel, and nvidia to drop support for windows 7/8.1.. but 8.1 is pretty much dead, the only people left using are the ones that forgot to get their free upgrade.. 7 on the other hand i doubt either side will drop it fully until the user count drops below 10%.
 
ultimately it comes down to how much microsoft pressures AMD, intel, and nvidia to drop support for windows 7/8.1.. but 8.1 is pretty much dead, the only people left using are the ones that forgot to get their free upgrade.. 7 on the other hand i doubt either side will drop it fully until the user count drops below 10%.

There're also a lot of businesses with slow moving IT depts still on W7. ex My former employer only finished migrating from W7 to W10 in the last few months. Others are lagging behind far enough that they'll be buying anywhere between 1 and 3 years of increasingly expensive W7 patch support via their enterprise licenses. The primary foreverday hazard is from consumer systems whose users have no intention of ever upgrading to a newer version of windows and will continue to use their W7 machine until it fails.
 
ultimately it comes down to how much microsoft pressures AMD, intel, and nvidia to drop support for windows 7/8.1.. but 8.1 is pretty much dead, the only people left using are the ones that forgot to get their free upgrade.. 7 on the other hand i doubt either side will drop it fully until the user count drops below 10%.

I didn't forget my free upgrade. 8 is fine
 
intel blocks off support of their graphics drivers to the subversion of even windows 10. So when it comes to versioning to the OS and dropping support for older ones, I think Intel reigns supreme.

And if intel can't be bothered to spend the cash to support anything older than the most recent few months of windows updates for windows 10 for their gpu's ...then there's very little pressure or reason to believe smaller companies will support even more versions.

i dont have much sympathy for people who choose to use old versions of OS's though.
 
i dont have much sympathy for people who choose to use old versions of OS's though.

I have no problem with people who use OS versions that are still supported. While mainstream support ended in 2018, extended support ends in 2023. It's not like s/he's using Windows XP or Vista.
 
The media creation tool still lets you upgrade to 10 for free (I suspect this is an intentional "accident"). Just download it and run an inplace upgrade. Unless you have software that isn't compatible with 10 you shouldn't have any trouble.
 
even if you had software that for whatever reason, you need to still use but is no longer maintained by the company and so you're stuck having to run it on some old version of windows. It would be preferable to run the old version of windows in a VM within your current version of windows rather than have actual old versions of windows not sandboxed away from reality.
 
Hmmm, that kinda sucks. I mean, Win7, Win8/8.1, and Win10 are still out there en masse, so it kind of boggles the mind that a major hardware manufacturer with such a strong partnership with an OS developer wouldn't have full support for all of the most current in-use OS versions.



Windows 8 was almost Vista 2.0. I can't forsee any reason to choose 8/8.1 over W10 at this point.

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Hmmm, that kinda sucks. I mean, Win7, Win8/8.1, and Win10 are still out there en masse, so it kind of boggles the mind that a major hardware manufacturer with such a strong partnership with an OS developer wouldn't have full support for all of the most current in-use OS versions.

Windows 8 \ 8.1 is currently just barely 5% of total market share from a quick google search. I bet there are only a handful of that 5% that are gaming enthusiasts who would be interested in installing a $300 GPU.

I think applying those resources to other things is probably much more beneficial than supporting an OS only a handful of customers use.
 
Windows 8 \ 8.1 is currently just barely 5% of total market share from a quick google search. I bet there are only a handful of that 5% that are gaming enthusiasts who would be interested in installing a $300 GPU.

I think applying those resources to other things is probably much more beneficial than supporting an OS only a handful of customers use.


I guess that does make sense...the enterprise segment (largest volume) mostly avoided Win8/8.1 like the plague.
 
It is weird from a consumer standpoint, just being used to the fact that usually companies follow MS's lead on supporting OSs.
 
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