Gideon
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Maybe they will make the heat spreaders out of diamonds as they conduct heat better then copper. But density and surface area are becoming a big problem now.
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Get a Noctua NH-DH15 and chunk the AIO garbage.
some people including me prefer the small footprint of an aio rather than looking at a boat anchor hanging off a mainboard. dont get me started on those ugly brown fans either.
I'd rather have a 100% fail proof application.
This is why Der8auer suggested spreading paste in to a thin layer across the entire IHS. Kryonaut comes with a little spatula just for that. It's how I've been doing it for probably 10 years now. You actually use less TIM since you only need a very thin layer. I usually make it damn near transparent.
I think your conception of “100%” is a bit off the mark.
Yeah, fans never fail, the mount that holds the 2+lb beast to the board never fails either , it's fool proof man.
I think your conception of “100%” is a bit off the mark.
Obviously you don't know how the mounting bracket works. And also, even if the fans fail, the heatsink is large enough to cool your CPU passively. I agree, its quite fool proof.
Obviously you don't know how the mounting bracket works. And also, even if the fans fail, the heatsink is large enough to cool your CPU passively. I agree, its quite fool proof.
I've had them fail before, I know very well how they work thanks though. I might not have mounted a DH15, but I've mounted some heavy HS over the years, including Snapping AMD board mounting brackets.
The heat sink will allow you to go a bit longer before throttling than the water block alone would, but either way you're replacing shit.
There's nothing wrong with air cooling, but to claim its 100% is retarded.
Why would you have to replace something? Only a moron would continue to run their PC under load knowing that the fans aren't working.
If your fan isn't working you have to replace the fan smart guy... Jesus.
If a pump fails you replace the pump, or in the case of AIO, the whole unit.
Both solutions work, both have their pros, both have their cons, and neither is 100%
If your fan isn't working you have to replace the fan smart guy... Jesus.
If a pump fails you replace the pump, or in the case of AIO, the whole unit.
Both solutions work, both have their pros, both have their cons, and neither is 100%
First, sorry for your loss, you should read instructions and use proper tools. Second, if you haven't used it, then you don't know what your'e talking about and you don't have an argument.
You can still use your machine without fans on the CPU heatsink. Probably for awhile
Meanwhile if your pump goes it'll be seconds before you start hearing the BIOS alarm
Going by your logic, have you used the AIO in question? or tested every AIO long term to verify that they are less reliable than HSF units ? Asking for a friend
I didn't do anything wrong, it was fine for over a year and one day temps went crazy, the bracket snapped, shit, I guess sometimes things break don't they?
Was the bracket plastic? Plastic doesn't do well with heat, it becomes brittle, if it was then Im not surprised it snapped.
I've used many AIO's, they all have the same design. And they've all failed or leaked or smelled like a fishtank. They are garbage.
Hmm, not sure about this one, but it is easy to test, maybe Krenum here can run the test for us, unplug the fans, see how long it will last under normal use, then see how long it will last under gaming use (make sure to dump the heat between runs)
Why would you have to replace something? Only a moron would continue to run their PC under load knowing that the fans aren't working.
Was the bracket plastic? Plastic doesn't do well with heat, it becomes brittle, if it was then Im not surprised it snapped.
I've used many AIO's, they all have the same design. And they've all failed or leaked or smelled like a fishtank. They are garbage.
Yes they are plastic, I've used 3 AIOs, and am still using 2 of them today, none of the 3 have failed yet(well maybe the 3rd failed, I don't have it anymore so I can't comment ) but my other 2 , which are 24 x 7 use ones are still going. (going on 4 years now on the first, and 3 on the second)
I'm sure we've all used these before.
Not much different from a moron that runs with a broken AIO as well.
All failed or leaked? Fascinating. What is your sample size?
I have 5 AIO's in my office, some as old as 2012 that still work.
some people including me prefer the small footprint of an aio rather than looking at a boat anchor hanging off a mainboard. dont get me started on those ugly brown fans either.
60's & 120's x2 (240). You are a brave man. I wouldn't trust them. Or I guess I've just had bad luck with them.
And isn't most of the reason we've never seen the IHS approach make it to GPUs... density/temperature?
Ive only seen one dude delid his 3600 and he only gained 4c in doing it.
I'd rather have a 100% fail proof application.
Once the heatsink is fully secured (high pressure) and the CPU is loaded (high heat), that air moves out.I used to do this until I watched a video where they used a piece of glass so you could see how the goop spreads. Any coat makes air bubbles and its almost impossible to avoid. Doesn't do much temp wise, but it bothers me. So now I do big glob in center. Not tiling a floor.
Price is the issue. Maybe a decade From now. The low grade polycrystalline stuff isn't super conductive. Monocrystal is. I have some optical grade at 2200 W/mK I pumped with nearly sun power density levels via laser (current visible wr) and it took it like a champ.thermal gradients are exceeding even theoretical expectations with that material.Maybe they will make the heat spreaders out of diamonds as they conduct heat better then copper. But density and surface area are becoming a big problem now.
I'll do it. But my hsf is designed to run passiveHmm, not sure about this one, but it is easy to test, maybe Krenum here can run the test for us, unplug the fans, see how long it will last under normal use, then see how long it will last under gaming use (make sure to dump the heat between runs)
It won't change much. People forget limitation is heatsink base and conductivity of silicon. We are rapidly approaching silicon power density vs conductivity. ( extracting that heat density) trouble. Zen2 has density like an oc'd older process.Ive only seen one dude delid his 3600 and he only gained 4c in doing it.
Yeah but everybody who delids is basically just doing it to test with liquid metal between the die and the IHS instead. I'm talking about deliding and ditching the IHS completely. Heatsink-to-die contact like it was back in the Athlon XP days.
Not something I'm willing to try myself at all, haha, and it would certainly require some heatsink hardware mount modification to adjust for the height difference, but I'd be verrrryyy curious to see the results of a test like that.