RTX 2060S and RTX2070S just cut down RTX2070/2080?

aokman said:
Duh... anyone with half a brain knows this
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Thing is that at least some of the cards don't have the GPUs with the cores disabled by laser cut as is usually the case with nvidia. But actually retail 2070/2080 cards with probably a bios mod.
 
In retrospect it now looks like this whole thing can be summed up as NVidia hadn't tiered their chips out properly the first time around and quickly corrected their mistake.
 
DedEmbryonicCe11 said:
In retrospect it now looks like this whole thing can be summed up as NVidia hadn't tiered their chips out properly the first time around and quickly corrected their mistake.
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I don't understand this logic. It seems like they did the exact right thing. Release a product a year and half ago that people would buy. And then release a product that uses your existing inventory that also sells at a profitable price. Nvidia released a tier for all consumer needs. So I don't get why you would think it was a mistake to be corrected. If seems more like an opportunity to be exploited.
 
Criticalhitkoala said:
I don't understand this logic. It seems like they did the exact right thing. Release a product a year and half ago that people would buy.
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A product that people "would buy" is a very very low bar when you only have 2 serious players in the entire market and they aren't covering exactly the same price points. Why are you trying to spin AMD's previous failures to sound like NVidia's successes? Vega should have used less power, or clocked higher, or BOTH. Everyone on this site is intelligent enough to know that with certain budgets the Vega56 was a great card but that AMD didn't have enough product to spread throughout their tiers properly when it came to the 64 and the 64 LC in terms of price/performance.
 
DedEmbryonicCe11 said:
A product that people "would buy" is a very very low bar when you only have 2 serious players in the entire market and they aren't covering exactly the same price points. Why are you trying to spin AMD's previous failures to sound like NVidia's successes? Vega should have used less power, or clocked higher, or BOTH. Everyone on this site is intelligent enough to know that with certain budgets the Vega56 was a great card but that AMD didn't have enough product to spread throughout their tiers properly when it came to the 64 and the 64 LC in terms of price/performance.
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Once again your logic really doesn't make sense to me. A low bar would be happily embraced by any company as long as people are spending money for their products, both AMD and Nvidia should absolutely know and embrace that. Though in this case, Nvidia did release a decent product at a price point that people were willing to pay for, and now they are releasing another product at the same price point. It simply sounds like Business to me....not any spinning, or anything. So I don't exactly see how I'm spinning it as Nvidia Successes. They are using old inventory, rebranding as the STEP down model of their current cards. and making it so their current line is faster and arguably better. It's not like the AMD 480/580/590 card over 4 years where it was the EXACT same chipset but with a massive power increase.

Amd not having enough products to spread through their tiers is a product of their own bad planning. Arguably it could be the EXACT reason that justifies Nvidia being able to release the 2060 and 2070 at a level you didn't think they should of been released at.

On another note, neither AMD nor Nvidia gives a shit about our feelings towards them. And they shouldn't. They are a company and aim to do what's best for their bottom line. That's why it's easy for me to not be offended by anything AMD or Nvidia does. If one of them does something that I don't care about, I just don't buy their shit until I feel there's value in it. I skipped an AMD CPU for over 13 years, but have been extremely happy with my recently purchased Ryzen 3900x and 3700x. They did good and their was value in it for me. The RTX stuff wasn't much value for me intially. but I have picked up a used 2070 and 2080 so I didn't have to pay the early adopter fee and those are great also. I'm communicating with Nvidia and AMD in a way they understand, with my wallet.
 
Stoly said:
Thing is that at least some of the cards don't have the GPUs with the cores disabled by laser cut as is usually the case with nvidia. But actually retail 2070/2080 cards with probably a bios mod.
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That isn't a fact, it's speculation.

I doubt anything will ever come of this.
 
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