X570 (and B550) chipets... compatible with next gen of AMD CPUs?

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I'm just curious whether compatibility between the new chipsets and the next generation of AMD CPUs is known. I can't find a definitive answer, so it may just be undetermined right now.

But, seems somewhat of a shame to spend money on the new, expensive motherboards, if they're going to be limited to one run of CPUs.

Would sort of be like owning the Vega VII of motherboards...

(Not that an X570 / Zen2 would be obsolete in terms of performance in that time frame. But still...)
 
Anyone that says that they know is full of it. No one knows right now, so the safe bet is to not count on it.
 
I wonder if there will be a Zen 2+? If so then that will probably work, on all AM4 boards that support Ryzen 2. That is if the motherboard makers update bios. I would expect a new socket for Zen 3, not sure if they will do a AM4+, especially if DDR5 memory, AM5? Anyone's guess except for AMD who probably has it mostly figured out where they are going. I cannot see Zen 2 only lasting 1 year, 2+ years.
 
I'm amused that people are looking forward to backwards compatibility when we have such a rich pool of issues to deal with right now.

B550 isn't even released yet.

People here are returning or selling off Zen2 setups.
There's a price to pay if you want to be an early adopter, some aren't into it.

I'm of the 1 gen late if it's AMD camp, bc I don't feel like dealing with it at full pop retail.
I'd rather have a known good build that didn't cost me anything that I can freeze for a couple non-critical use cases.
 
I was under the impression that AM4 is going to be supported until the end of 2020 which includes one more refresh of Zen, like Zen2+ or something.
 
somebrains said:
I'm amused that people are looking forward to backwards compatibility when we have such a rich pool of issues to deal with right now.

B550 isn't even released yet.

People here are returning or selling off Zen2 setups.
There's a price to pay if you want to be an early adopter, some aren't into it.

I'm of the 1 gen late if it's AMD camp, bc I don't feel like dealing with it at full pop retail.
I'd rather have a known good build that didn't cost me anything that I can freeze for a couple non-critical use cases.
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meh, dealt with it with the original release of the core i architecture, dealt with it with first gen ryzen, dealt with it back in the am2 days so on and so on.. as much as people want to bitch about the issues on AMD's side they aren't that big of a deal.. woopty do i can't play a game that i haven't played in almost a year, what will i ever do.. oh no my processor won't boost to the maximum boost clock AMD marketed because oh wait that's right only gullible people take manufactures numbers at face value otherwise you know things like reviews wouldn't exist..

Dermen said:
I was under the impression that AM4 is going to be supported until the end of 2020 which includes one more refresh of Zen, like Zen2+ or something.
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there should be a zen2+ refresh but it may come down to what intel does between now and mid 2020 on whether or not AMD decides to skip it and go straight to zen 3 instead. we'll see though what ends up happening..
 
Next gen CPU Zen 2 refresh, 4000 series, next year will be on AM4 and DDR4. A420 and B550 are prepared for the beginning of the next year. Amd already prepared people, Ryzen 4000 series will be a 3000 series optimized based on 7nm+. No huge gap between 3000 and 4000, like between Ryzen and Ryzen+.
However it is quite certain Ryzen 5000 in 2021 will be AM5 and DDR5 with a huge gap in performance and new tech, probably 2.5D chips on 5nm+. At that time Intel will probably experience 0 share in DIY desktop market and still on 14nm++ 10 core CPU probably at very low price. AMD will use AM5 socket to run until 2.5D 3m+ GAFET circuits, probably GPU+CPU+huge cache+plenty HBM3 or 4. By that time, around 2023, 64 cores @ 5Ghz and much higher IPC will be standard on desktop, and Intel probably still trying to perfect its new 7nm EUV.
 
Jandor said:
Next gen CPU Zen 2 refresh, 4000 series, next year will be on AM4 and DDR4. A420 and B550 are prepared for the beginning of the next year. Amd already prepared people, Ryzen 4000 series will be a 3000 series optimized based on 7nm+. No huge gap between 3000 and 4000, like between Ryzen and Ryzen+.
However it is quite certain Ryzen 5000 in 2021 will be AM5 and DDR5 with a huge gap in performance and new tech, probably 2.5D chips on 5nm+. At that time Intel will probably experience 0 share in DIY desktop market and still on 14nm++ 10 core CPU probably at very low price. AMD will use AM5 socket to run until 2.5D 3m+ GAFET circuits, probably GPU+CPU+huge cache+plenty HBM3 or 4. By that time, around 2023, 64 cores @ 5Ghz and much higher IPC will be standard on desktop, and Intel probably still trying to perfect its new 7nm EUV.
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Don't you mean A520? A420 would not make any sense.
 
Jandor said:
Next gen CPU Zen 2 refresh, 4000 series, next year will be on AM4 and DDR4. A420 and B550 are prepared for the beginning of the next year. Amd already prepared people, Ryzen 4000 series will be a 3000 series optimized based on 7nm+. No huge gap between 3000 and 4000, like between Ryzen and Ryzen+.
However it is quite certain Ryzen 5000 in 2021 will be AM5 and DDR5 with a huge gap in performance and new tech, probably 2.5D chips on 5nm+. At that time Intel will probably experience 0 share in DIY desktop market and still on 14nm++ 10 core CPU probably at very low price. AMD will use AM5 socket to run until 2.5D 3m+ GAFET circuits, probably GPU+CPU+huge cache+plenty HBM3 or 4. By that time, around 2023, 64 cores @ 5Ghz and much higher IPC will be standard on desktop, and Intel probably still trying to perfect its new 7nm EUV.
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Buy whatever this guy is selling, op. I like future talks too
 
Jandor said:
Next gen CPU Zen 2 refresh, 4000 series, next year will be on AM4 and DDR4. A420 and B550 are prepared for the beginning of the next year. Amd already prepared people, Ryzen 4000 series will be a 3000 series optimized based on 7nm+. No huge gap between 3000 and 4000, like between Ryzen and Ryzen+.
However it is quite certain Ryzen 5000 in 2021 will be AM5 and DDR5 with a huge gap in performance and new tech, probably 2.5D chips on 5nm+. At that time Intel will probably experience 0 share in DIY desktop market and still on 14nm++ 10 core CPU probably at very low price. AMD will use AM5 socket to run until 2.5D 3m+ GAFET circuits, probably GPU+CPU+huge cache+plenty HBM3 or 4. By that time, around 2023, 64 cores @ 5Ghz and much higher IPC will be standard on desktop, and Intel probably still trying to perfect its new 7nm EUV.
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This should be marked as 'I pretend I know what AMD is going to do, but really have no idea.'
 
waderunner said:
I'm just curious whether compatibility between the new chipsets and the next generation of AMD CPUs is known. I can't find a definitive answer, so it may just be undetermined right now.

But, seems somewhat of a shame to spend money on the new, expensive motherboards, if they're going to be limited to one run of CPUs.

Would sort of be like owning the Vega VII of motherboards...

(Not that an X570 / Zen2 would be obsolete in terms of performance in that time frame. But still...)
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AM4 board bought years ago, supports AM4 chips being released today.

The x570 is a chipset with updated features...that come with newer CPUs. The x570 is PCIe4.0 and supports standards that were not around when the 1st Gen Ryzen chips were released (ex: 1800x). All chips will work, just not with all their feature sets.

The PCIe4.0 standard is a massive upgrade in quality of components and hardware specs. PCIe5.0 should just be a firmware upgrade. (Different than PCIe3 to PCIe4)
 
Mchart said:
This should be marked as 'I pretend I know what AMD is going to do, but really have no idea.'
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No, that is directly from AMD's mouth. They have told us what they intend to support with their AM4 platform.
 
Gamer X said:
No, that is directly from AMD's mouth. They have told us what they intend to support with their AM4 platform.
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You shouldn’t have a problem supplying the reference. Please show us your source cited.

Incredible that you know what PCIE 5 will be as well.
 
Mchart said:
You shouldn’t have a problem supplying the reference. Please show us your source cited.

Incredible that you know what PCIE 5 will be as well.
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In addition to citing the AM4 source, I would like to request a source for PCIe 5 being nothing more than a firmware update.
 
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