Intel i9 cooler suggestions

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Well,

Havn't posted here in so long, I forgot my username info. anyway, new account, need some help :)

Building my first i9 PC. was hoping to have this thing fired up now that my i9 LGA 2066 processer arrived, but to my surprise, no cpu cooler fan was included like with so many pervious versions....

So, I need some suggestions. That ones I DO see are so damn huge....they are a bit of a turn off. none of them really seem to sit directly on the cpu like the intel ones do, they all stick out toward the case cover. And you also have to take the motherboard out to install most of them. another pain since it's all set up and readyto go, sans cpu fan.


Some of the ones I've been looking at...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BYP9S95?tag=ds0233-20

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168351...&ranSiteID=TnL5HPStwNw-pZUuYgmXiI7XDsVNz9ZeEg

This one doesn't seem to be rated for LGA2066 but it's what I WOULD like to have..
https://www.amazon.com/i5-7640X-i7-7740X-i7-7800X-i7-7820X-i9-7900X/dp/B00QGII3SG?tag=ds0233-20

Any suggestions?
thanks :)
 
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Well to start, TS140P has 6x 8mm heatpipes vs d15s 6x 6mm. It also has a tdp of 360w, I believe d15 has 240. Le Grand Macho RT beats D15, TS140P beats LGMRT. They say D14 is stronger than D15 by a little. Check this out..

https://forums.bit-tech.net/index.p...ower-new-air-cooling-king-mini-review.269339/
TDP ratings from manufacturers don't mean anything. First, find me a CPU that can actually put out that much heat, then show me how any air cooler currently on the consumer market keeps it cool. It's why Noctua got rid of the TDP ratings on their products years ago.
 
Did you even click the link, or did you immediately feel the need to defend Noctua?
 
Did you even click the link, or did you immediately feel the need to defend Noctua?
I did click the link, and I mentioned Noctua because that was what the comparison was to. My reply was to the post, not the review. You can't say the TSP is better simply by pointing out that Thermalright says it's rated for 360W while the D15 is rated for 240W when Noctua doesn't even give a TDP rating for their coolers.

I never brought the quality of the cooler itself into the discussion, but here is my opinion: yes, it's a good design for single tower and it keeps within room temperature delta of 1-2 degrees Celsius of other dual-tower designs in real testing.
 
Did you even click the link, or did you immediately feel the need to defend Noctua?
Cooling a X299 chip is nothing like cooling a x58 chip. There is zero data out there on anyone running the thermalright cooler on skylake x but tons of data of people running noctuas. The noctuas actually give headroom to overclock and cool just as good as AIOs and is why it is the go to cooler and IMHO the ONLY air cooler that should be used on these chips. I would think if the thermalright was as good as it is being claimed then there would be more people using it and more current data to back it up.
 
Price to performance thermalright is among the very best if not the best. The data is there. If you havent seen it i would have to guess that your not looking very hard.
 
Price to performance thermalright is among the very best if not the best. The data is there. If you havent seen it i would have to guess that your not looking very hard.
Please show me the data of a thermalright cooler on a X299 chip? I have looked to btw.
 
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Well,

Havn't posted here in so long, I forgot my username info. anyway, new account, need some help :)

Building my first i9 PC. was hoping to have this thing fired up now that my i9 LGA 2066 processer arrived, but to my surprise, no cpu cooler fan was included like with so many pervious versions....

Modern Intel CPU's do not come with coolers. Primarily, this is because the included heat sinks and fans that Intel has used for so long are inadequate for cooling their modern CPU's. Due to the costs of an included solution, Intel left that up to OEMs and system builders to handle.

So, I need some suggestions. That ones I DO see are so damn huge....they are a bit of a turn off. none of them really seem to sit directly on the cpu like the intel ones do, they all stick out toward the case cover. And you also have to take the motherboard out to install most of them. another pain since it's all set up and readyto go, sans cpu fan.

They are huge for a reason. Modern air coolers have to be enormous to provide the cooling required by today's multi-core CPU's. I can assure you, all the heat sinks do sit on top of the processor. They do have a large foot print, but again, this is because they have to. As for removing the motherboard to install them, this is not generally required in a modern case. The motherboard tray typically has a cut out on the back of the CPU socket area to facilitate installation of cooling solutions.



This one is LGA 2066 compatible. How well it works is something I can't speak to.


This one says its rated for less cooling than the first link you provided.

This one doesn't seem to be rated for LGA2066 but it's what I WOULD like to have..
https://www.amazon.com/i5-7640X-i7-7740X-i7-7800X-i7-7820X-i9-7900X/dp/B00QGII3SG?tag=ds0233-20

Actually, if you read the description that is rated for LGA 2066. However, I've never heard anyone say this is what they would like to have. For starters, those always provided sub-par cooling and under any significant activity, the fan noise is excessive. They aren't even good looking coolers. Secondly, you need to look at the processors they are rated for. Those are things like the Core i7 7740X which is a quad-core CPU. I don't know what CPU you bought, but anything with a TDP over 65w is going to need a more substantial cooler than that.

Any suggestions?
thanks :)

Absolutely, get away from air cooling and go with a modern AIO (all in one) watercooling solution. They are better looking, cool better, and can be made very quiet.
 
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TLDR/W - The D15 is king.

Absolutely, get away from air cooling and go with a modern AIO (all in one) watercooling solution. They are better looking, cool better, and can be made very quiet.

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http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

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To the poster who said the D15 was beaten by the D14.. yes.. by 1 degree (margin of error)
 
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Hel Keljian, did you click the link in my post? Keep in mind, Thermalright was making high performance coolers long before Noctua came to be. Ill drop another link. Also, keep in mind True Spirit 140 Power is stronger than LGMRT. You call it margin of error, but everyone else would call it a win. Don't worry, its not x58 :D

You can see here LGMRT matches or exceeds both D15s.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/thermalright-le-grand-macho/6.html

Also, for the person who said Noctua doesn't publish TDP.. They used to. In older reviews you can see for yourself.

Anyways, I was just trying to provide an option, everyone recommends Noctua, but you have a choice. I ran D14 before, and it was very inconvenient. At least with LGMRT you can still have access to your ram without taking fans off. With TS140P your only restriction is your case, it is tall.

Anyways, good luck to you.

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Wrong link..
 
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Hi freeagentt I am well aware of Thermaltake. I have been cooling and overclocking cpus for 30 years. Cooler master was around then too.

Did you know in the 90s and early 2000s their fans were the worst you could buy because they were so fragile?

1-2 degrees is within margin of error. D15 equals the cooler you were taking about under load. I have had no issues with high ram on my boards, heck even ram removal with the heatsink in place.

The Kraken x61 will beat the d15, but it is noisier, and offers no cooling if the pump dies..
 
TLDR/W - The D15 is king.



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http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

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To the poster who said the D15 was beaten by the D14.. yes.. by 1 degree (margin of error)

Those sound readings seem off. Never heard of Relaxed Tech before. Their readings were taken at 50cm. I sit about 80cm away from my PC and the loudest thing in it is the HDD I am going to be getting rid of soon, otherwise it is completely silent. These readings are from 75cm:

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I upgraded the X62 in my signature to the X72, which is why I highlighted it. It's run in performance mode all the time.
 
TLDR/W - The D15 is king.



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http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

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To the poster who said the D15 was beaten by the D14.. yes.. by 1 degree (margin of error)


Honestly, I hadn't looked at air cooling in years. If for no other reason than the AIO's provide better clearance for memory modules. A cooler that prevents me from using half my RAM slots and gets in my way is a no go for me. That said, from your post, it still looks like there are situations where the AIO still cools better than the D15. Your first Relaxedtech graph shows this with the Kraken X61. The D15 can be quieter, but then again you can put whatever fans you want on an AIO. You aren't limited to the stock ones they ship with. Granted, going for a quieter fan could impact performance, so that's something to consider. Again, if you look here, you can see the 360 AIO beating out the D15 as well.
 
The whole point about TS140P I was trying to make was, for fifty bucks, you could have as good, or better performance than a D15. And if you really wanted to seal the deal you could add a TY-143. Anyways, was just trying to help. Didn’t mean to strike a nerve.
 
Honestly, I hadn't looked at air cooling in years. If for no other reason than the AIO's provide better clearance for memory modules. A cooler that prevents me from using half my RAM slots and gets in my way is a no go for me. That said, from your post, it still looks like there are situations where the AIO still cools better than the D15. Your first Relaxedtech graph shows this with the Kraken X61. The D15 can be quieter, but then again you can put whatever fans you want on an AIO. You aren't limited to the stock ones they ship with. Granted, going for a quieter fan could impact performance, so that's something to consider. Again, if you look here, you can see the 360 AIO beating out the D15 as well.
Oddly enough, I had a slight issue with RAM clearance with both the X62 and X72. The joints for the tubing coming out of the pump hits the stick in the first slot on the AORUS Pro if you mount it upright. You can just mount the pump in a different orientation since the mount is square, but that means that pretty NZXT logo that lights up won't be oriented correctly.
 
Had a friend use some Noctua 140mm air cooler on a later-spin 8700k. Set XMP and MCE, instant silent 4.7GHz in an mATX Fractal Design case. He hasn't touched it since we set it up, and he probably won't need to for the next four or five years.

For most uses, great air cooling can be perfect. I prefer AIOs myself, they're so much easier to mount and can exhaust heat directly out of the enclosure, but if you only have to do it once then it's not much of an issue either way.
 
hey all,

thank you for the detailed advice :)

I've only been building pc's for 12 years (after I got fed up wiht the lack of customization options on the internal dell cases)....so I'm afraid I'm only at the basic level, even now. I don't even overclock what I get.

Watercooling would be an interesting option to exapnd too, but I know next to nothing about it. so i'd be starting from scratch.

after looking up some reviews on the suggested products....I decided to give this one a try, since it was suggested here, and elsewhere. Noctua NH-D15, Premium CPU Cooler with 2x NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans
Although, one or two others came really really close... but some of the negative reviews scared me away. specially with the flimsyness of attchment parts, allegedly.

This will be the bones of my First I9 CPU

HD:
Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 64-layer 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
My First experience with a HD of this kind. but, after trying my first ever SSD drive and marveling at the speed increase in some areas.. i can't wait to see what the difference is with this model.

MB:
ASUS TUF X299 MARK 2 LGA2066 DDR4 M.2 USB 3.1 X299 ATX Motherboard for Intel Core i9 and i7 X-Series Processors
The Thing that sold me on this one was the 8 memory ports. Hopefully will help with CGI/3D applications, Video Games in 1080P (Ghostbsusters remake, looking at you), and Video Editing in 4K with my new drone.

My PSU:
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-850PX 850W 80+ Platinum ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan
Always stuck with seasonic for the modular cables. even though i'm sure other brands have them now, they where the first I tried.

My GPU:
EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 GAMING, 06G-P4-2060-KR, 6GB GDDR6, HDB Fan
I got the Dual Fan option in my former main PC. that one is going to another location, so with this one I tried the Single fan option to save space.

Memory:
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000 Desktop Memory Model
I plan to fill up as many slots as I can...but DEF all 4 eventually. once funds become more available.

CPU:
Intel Core i9-9900X X-Series Processor 10 Cores up to 4.4GHz Turbo Unlocked LGA2066 X299 Series 165W Processors
as stated before, my first i9 PC.

And My Case. My older cases from the i5 era where Cooler Masters. the ones I liked where since discontinued, and started to grow noisy over time. so, I gave this brand a try. the extra hard drive space sold it.
Fractal Design Define R5 Gaming Case Cases FDCADEFR5BK

That's it in a nutshell. rather expensive, probably closing in on $2,000 for a Gaming / Video editing/ CGI PC. but, I'm hoping it'll last another 7 years.
 
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Two things:

First, I'd recommend closing this thread and opening a new 'build thread'. If not, then editing the title to reflect the new purpose.

Second, expect significant criticism with respect to individual parts. I'm looking at your list crooked myself- not even sure where to start, as there's a lot of overkill there that is essentially going to go unused while adding to the cost, and plenty of stuff that would help, and well, with your stated system purpose- which I would start with!- you'll likely end up changing out every component.
 
If you havent ordered yet i would advise picking up a 7900x instead of the 9900x. The 9 series x299 chips are wavy heat spreaders due to the soldering process and causes major cooling issues unless you lap the heat spreader. I had a 9800x 8 core and was seeing temps get up to high 190F. I sold it and picked up a 7900x off ebay and at the same clocks its 15 degrees cooler with 2 extra cores. While the 7 series x299 chips are not soldered that is less of an issue then the heat spreader being warped.
 
hey all,

thank you for the detailed advice :)

I've only been building pc's for 12 years (after I got fed up wiht the lack of customization options on the internal dell cases)....so I'm afraid I'm only at the basic level, even now. I don't even overclock what I get.

Watercooling would be an interesting option to exapnd too, but I know next to nothing about it. so i'd be starting from scratch.

after looking up some reviews on the suggested products....I decided to give this one a try, since it was suggested here, and elsewhere. Noctua NH-D15, Premium CPU Cooler with 2x NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans
Although, one or two others came really really close... but some of the negative reviews scared me away. specially with the flimsyness of attchment parts, allegedly.

This will be the bones of my First I9 CPU

HD:
Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 64-layer 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
My First experience with a HD of this kind. but, after trying my first ever SSD drive and marveling at the speed increase in some areas.. i can't wait to see what the difference is with this model.

MB:
ASUS TUF X299 MARK 2 LGA2066 DDR4 M.2 USB 3.1 X299 ATX Motherboard for Intel Core i9 and i7 X-Series Processors
The Thing that sold me on this one was the 8 memory ports. Hopefully will help with CGI/3D applications, Video Games in 1080P (Ghostbsusters remake, looking at you), and Video Editing in 4K with my new drone.

My PSU:
Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-850PX 850W 80+ Platinum ATX12V & EPS12V Full Modular 120mm FDB Fan
Always stuck with seasonic for the modular cables. even though i'm sure other brands have them now, they where the first I tried.

My GPU:
EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 GAMING, 06G-P4-2060-KR, 6GB GDDR6, HDB Fan
I got the Dual Fan option in my former main PC. that one is going to another location, so with this one I tried the Single fan option to save space.

Memory:
CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000 Desktop Memory Model
I plan to fill up as many slots as I can...but DEF all 4 eventually. once funds become more available.

CPU:
Intel Core i9-9900X X-Series Processor 10 Cores up to 4.4GHz Turbo Unlocked LGA2066 X299 Series 165W Processors
as stated before, my first i9 PC.

And My Case. My older cases from the i5 era where Cooler Masters. the ones I liked where since discontinued, and started to grow noisy over time. so, I gave this brand a try. the extra hard drive space sold it.
Fractal Design Define R5 Gaming Case Cases FDCADEFR5BK

That's it in a nutshell. rather expensive, probably closing in on $2,000 for a Gaming / Video editing/ CGI PC. but, I'm hoping it'll last another 7 years.

I'm going to caution you against the ASUS TUF series. It isn't what it once was. It used to hang with ROG's upper echelon (when there was no lower echelon ROG products) and now, it's basically been relegated to a budget gaming sub-brand riding on the coat tails of a name that used to mean something. It used to be for people who cared about stability, reliability and longevity. The series was built for peace of mind. However, that's not what its been lately. Thin PCB's, barrely adequate VRM's and shoddy build quality.
 
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Oddly enough, I had a slight issue with RAM clearance with both the X62 and X72. The joints for the tubing coming out of the pump hits the stick in the first slot on the AORUS Pro if you mount it upright. You can just mount the pump in a different orientation since the mount is square, but that means that pretty NZXT logo that lights up won't be oriented correctly.

I don't know about that one specifically, but on the Corsair and Thermaltake units, I've never had that problem.
 
I'm going to caution you against the ASUS TUF series. It isn't what it once was. It used to hang with ROG's upper echelon (when there was no lower echelon ROG products) and now, it's basically been relegated to a budget gaming sub-brand riding on the coat tails of a name that used to mean something. It used to be for people who cared about stability, reliability and longevity. The series was built for peace of mind. However, that's not what its been lately. Thin PCB's, barrely adequate VRM's and shoddy build quality.


Asus has been my go to brand for a while now. with Gigabyte as a side option. but for whatever reason, audio used to stall every now and then using the gigabyte board, so I went back to the more reliable asus.
Interesting. I will let you know how it all goes..

Unfortunately, all of it HAS been ordered.. the last part to decide on was the fan.
So far, I have not had a system fail on my yet, and they all last nicely for 7 years or so. hoping the same for this one.

Two things:

First, I'd recommend closing this thread and opening a new 'build thread'. If not, then editing the title to reflect the new purpose.

I tried to change the title, but didn't seem to have that option. if a mod feels like moving, or changing, please feel free to do so.

I mostly went overboard with power, because I'm trying to future proof as much as possible. It might not get used now, I'm hoping it gives me options in the future. I did post elsewhere for recomendations as well.
mostly in places I trust to know their stuff.

tried to make the best, informed choices i could, with the limited knowledge i have on advanced basics...
 
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Asus has been my go to brand for a while now. with Gigabyte as a side option. but for whatever reason, audio used to stall every now and then using the gigabyte board, so I went back to the more reliable asus.
Interesting. I will let you know how it all goes..

Unfortunately, all of it HAS been ordered.. the last part to decide on was the fan.
So far, I have not had a system fail on my yet, and they all last nicely for 7 years or so. hoping the same for this one.



I tried to change the title, but didn't seem to have that option. if a mod feels like moving, or changing, please feel free to do so.

I mostly went overboard with power, because I'm trying to future proof as much as possible. It might not get used now, I'm hoping it gives me options in the future. I did post elsewhere for recomendations as well.
mostly in places I trust to know their stuff.

tried to make the best, informed choices i could, with the limited knowledge i have on advanced basics...

I'd be fine with an ASUS motherboard, just not anything in the TUF series based on what I've seen. I have no specific experience with that particular model, so I can't speak negatively about it beyond what I've seen from the rest of the series recently. For all I know, that board is a return to form.
 
Unfortunately, all of it HAS been ordered..
tried to make the best, informed choices i could, with the limited knowledge i have on advanced basics...
mostly in places I trust to know their stuff.

At this point I wouldn't have admitted to the above ;).

What you have looks like it will work extremely well for what you're trying to do. The point is that you likely could have cut close to a grand (that is, US$1,000) off of your bottom line and kept performance and upgradeability steady.
 
Honestly, I hadn't looked at air cooling in years. If for no other reason than the AIO's provide better clearance for memory modules. A cooler that prevents me from using half my RAM slots and gets in my way is a no go for me. That said, from your post, it still looks like there are situations where the AIO still cools better than the D15. Your first Relaxedtech graph shows this with the Kraken X61. The D15 can be quieter, but then again you can put whatever fans you want on an AIO. You aren't limited to the stock ones they ship with. Granted, going for a quieter fan could impact performance, so that's something to consider. Again, if you look here, you can see the 360 AIO beating out the D15 as well.


Hey Dan, I think you missed the bit where I said that I could get ram in and out fine with the D15, plenty of clearance... it was one of the changes between the d14 and 15. The catch of course is you remove one of the fans (or position it elsewhere when installing). Realistically though, it's not that big a deal to take the thing off and put it on again.
 
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Well, AIO should be ok for a year, maybe 3. After that, you will probably have to replace it. Or take it apart, clean, and refill it. Judging by some of the comments here, some of you probably haven't used them for that long. Because they aren't really that good.. Unless you spend on a nice one.. and even then.. A Corsair unit isn't a nice one lol. Anyways, it seems like you fellas are set in your ways.. Glad to ruffle some feathers and get you looking around.. its better to know what's out there, rather than regurgitating what everyone else says which I have seen quite a bit here.

Anyways fellers, its been a slice, enjoy.
 
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Well, AIO should be ok for a year, maybe 3. After that, you will probably have to replace it. Or take it apart, clean, and refill it. Judging by some of the comments here, some of you probably haven't used them for that long. Because they aren't really that good.. Unless you spend on a nice one.. and even then.. A Corsair unit isn't a nice one lol. Anyways, it seems like you fellas are set in your ways.. Glad to ruffle some feathers and get you looking around.. its better to know what's out there, rather than regurgitating what everyone else says which I have seen quite a bit here.

Anyways fellers, its been a slice, enjoy.
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Well, AIO should be ok for a year, maybe 3. After that, you will probably have to replace it. Or take it apart, clean, and refill it. Judging by some of the comments here, some of you probably haven't used them for that long. Because they aren't really that good.. Unless you spend on a nice one.. and even then.. A Corsair unit isn't a nice one lol. Anyways, it seems like you fellas are set in your ways.. Glad to ruffle some feathers and get you looking around.. its better to know what's out there, rather than regurgitating what everyone else says which I have seen quite a bit here.

Anyways fellers, its been a slice, enjoy.


For the record - When I moved to the intel 9xxx platform I spent a heck of a lot of time looking at coolers. I _wanted_ to replace my D15 with something else, the reality though is that there is nothing that is significantly better, and there is a lot out there that is worse.
 
All good, I may have went about my argument the wrong way. But if you have a D15 I mean.. whats the point, that's a cooler you can use for decades provided it is compatible. My buddy is still using my old D14 that I sold to him 6 or 8 years ago. I think he runs his 7700k at 5ghz, at least in the winter. The stock fans are junk. I did have an H100 that I ran for about 5 years, I used 120x38 110cfm Panaflos on it. After the 2nd or third year I couldn't run the clocks that I was used to, or I could but only in the winter. And it rattled and made all kinds of noise, other than fan noise at 12v lol. Either way, when you start buying high end air, you cant really go wrong, they all perform within a few c of each other. That's why I bought my current coolers, I have no plans for threadripper, so I should be able to get at least a decade out of them and get excellent service during that time provided they are compatible with whatever I want to run. And yes, you can do a lot worse. Like a hyper 212 lol.. and many others I'm sure

AIO is nice for a tidy look, but I still think they are overhyped, like the 212 Evo was lol.
 
My buddy is still using my old D14 that I sold to him 6 or 8 years ago. I think he runs his 7700k at 5ghz, at least in the winter.
I still run a Scythe ninja rev 1 from 939 days. Good air cooling should last decades as you said and has for me so far.
I don't know if I'd try putting it on a 3900-3950 but anything quad to hex core it should be fine.

And lol I used to also run seasonal OCs when i was a younger lad for that last 0.001% 'competitive' epeenfps lol.
 
I still have my XP-90 from 939 days, and I also have my Ultra120 Extreme from 2007 up on the shelf. Still a badass cooler, but with regular fans was topped by my old D14.. With my Panaflos.. not so much. which is why its on the shelf heheh.
 
I'm using a d15s on a 7940x. I wanted the first pci-e slot usable in every case/mobo that would fit the d15s.

At my stock bios settings (this board doesn't apply wattage limits, because.... no idea)

Anyways

These are all max heat in the newest prime95, roughly what I get

70 prime 95 avx2 load 210 watts (3.5)
61 standard load 210 watts (3.8)
61 avx 512 load 210 watts (3.1)

power limit on my stock bios purely limited by offsets. So plus - minus 5 watts.
 
Well, AIO should be ok for a year, maybe 3. After that, you will probably have to replace it. Or take it apart, clean, and refill it. Judging by some of the comments here, some of you probably haven't used them for that long. Because they aren't really that good.. Unless you spend on a nice one.. and even then.. A Corsair unit isn't a nice one lol. Anyways, it seems like you fellas are set in your ways.. Glad to ruffle some feathers and get you looking around.. its better to know what's out there, rather than regurgitating what everyone else says which I have seen quite a bit here.

Anyways fellers, its been a slice, enjoy.

I have the original launch Corsair H50 that came out back in 2009 that is being used on a daily PC.

I have several other AIOs that are 5+ years old on other daily PCs that are running without any issues.

I know a dozen of other people using AIOs for the longest time and no complaints on their end.
 
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