AMD Ryzen R9 3900X Review Round Up

IdiotInCharge said:
Speaking to Dan_D, I'm wondering if it isn't possible to narrow the criteria a bit, and possibly bringing in a different tester to do the actual gameplay needed to produce results.

Might even just be 'one day of multiplayer testing' with caveats up front.

The basic idea is that objective and some subjective impressions based both on user experience and a best-effort correlation with frametimes.
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Go to where he works now and ask there, you may get a better response. (They do not do any reviews here anymore, just saying or at least reminding you. :) )
 
IdiotInCharge said:
Speaking to Dan_D, I'm wondering if it isn't possible to narrow the criteria a bit, and possibly bringing in a different tester to do the actual gameplay needed to produce results.

Might even just be 'one day of multiplayer testing' with caveats up front.

The basic idea is that objective and some subjective impressions based both on user experience and a best-effort correlation with frametimes.
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Go to their forums and ask but they have pretty much already said no to this.
 
Wow.. Came home to a nice surprise with 3700x in stock at both newegg and amazon. Grab em while they're hot..

X570 Aorus Elite is out of stock though but Newegg has a combo deal for $20 off 3700x + Aorus Pro Wifi so I grabbed that and tossed in another $10 newegg gift code I had..

Went with 3600 Hynix CJR C19 (Gskill Sniper X - not the nicest looking) hoping I can tighten them up a bit, not quite b-die but literally 50% less money.. Was waiting for better reviews on the timings but pulled the trigger anyway.
 
Timings do not seem to matter much this round. Zen+ was up to 20% increase potential above XMP speeds, this time it's less than 5% by the looks of it. Cheaper stuff is the right way to go.
 
OnceSetThisCannotChange said:
Timings do not seem to matter much this round. Zen+ was up to 20% increase potential above XMP speeds, this time it's less than 5% by the looks of it. Cheaper stuff is the right way to go.
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True, I think it was Dan_D that said he was going to do more benches to confirm (or deny) this. Most of the benches involving memory seem to just hit 3600 C16 but nothing with looser timings.

That said, I've read from a few sources (including this forum) that the G Skill Sniper using Hynix CJR overclock very well, quite a few people have claimed they'll run ~16-18-18-36. Ugly kit to pair with an Aorus I think, but for $75.. whatever.
 
odditory said:
Oh boy this again. An AMD chip or other has been in the consoles - at least 6 years now? - and this long running fantasy has been that it would somehow translate to gains on the PC side for AMD. Still hasn't materialized.

Because of the way console dev works and the hardware level stuff abstracted away, game devs DNGAF about 'optimizing for AMD' or multicore or any particular hardware. There's no crossover. AMD drivers on PC may improve over time, but don't wait for consoles as some savior or multiplier, or you're in for disappointment

AMD will have to do the heavy lifting, it won't be done for them. Where I'd like to see them lean heavy is optimizing for and becoming the go-to GPUs for Vulkan.
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Wrong ! It has gotten progressively better. 6 years ago very few titles took advantage of multicores, now more than half do. Together with the major IPC improvements in Matisse, even those titles that are firmly in the hands of Intel development money are performing competitively with only 3 or so exceptions in the top 40 of games. As AMD moves up close to 30 per cent of market share for desktop computer ownership in the next 2 years the pressure will continue to mount on those developers still in Intel's corner. AMD is significantly increasing game development money as it profit margins and revenues rise their newer cpu and graphics offerings.
 
Mode13 said:
True, I think it was Dan_D that said he was going to do more benches to confirm (or deny) this. Most of the benches involving memory seem to just hit 3600 C16 but nothing with looser timings.

That said, I've read from a few sources (including this forum) that the G Skill Sniper using Hynix CJR overclock very well, quite a few people have claimed they'll run ~16-18-18-36. Ugly kit to pair with an Aorus I think, but for $75.. whatever.
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Let us know how you fare...I decided I wanted 32GB of ram since I was bumping up against the 16GB limit (locking large pages in windows 10 pro for better mining performance) once my system had been up and running for 10+days...

All I had to do was a 20sec reboot and double click 2 batch files but I was getting annoyed and when ram dropped so much it seemed like a no brainer.

I have a 32GB kit of 3000c15 corsiar vengeance I was having issues with not disabling Gear down and the ram power down fixed it and it's rock solid. The issue is thst I got an old V3.31 kit that is Micron D die while the new kits are Micron E.

I had already purchased another kit, this time I went with Crucial Ballistix Sport LT which is supposed to be 100% Micron E die (and is rated for 3200c16)...

It's supposed to be able to do 3600 on Zen2 from what some members here have said so I hope it's true.



I paid $156 and it just arrived today but Amazon has the grey kit I ordered marked down to $140 at the time of this post which makes it an even better deal.


I'll report back once I get my 5700xt you block in next week and can get my loop rebuilt.

Kinds pissed that EK is lagging so far behind GPU launches these days.
 
ccityinstaller said:
Let us know how you fare...I decided I wanted 32GB of ram since I was bumping up against the 16GB limit (locking large pages in windows 10 pro for better mining performance) once my system had been up and running for 10+days...

All I had to do was a 20sec reboot and double click 2 batch files but I was getting annoyed and when ram dropped so much it seemed like a no brainer.

I have a 32GB kit of 3000c15 corsiar vengeance I was having issues with not disabling Gear down and the ram power down fixed it and it's rock solid. The issue is thst I got an old V3.31 kit that is Micron D die while the new kits are Micron E.

I had already purchased another kit, this time I went with Crucial Ballistix Sport LT which is supposed to be 100% Micron E die (and is rated for 3200c16)...

It's supposed to be able to do 3600 on Zen2 from what some members here have said so I hope it's true.



I paid $156 and it just arrived today but Amazon has the grey kit I ordered marked down to $140 at the time of this post which makes it an even better deal.


I'll report back once I get my 5700xt you block in next week and can get my loop rebuilt.

Kinds pissed that EK is lagging so far behind GPU launches these days.
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I got the same kit in 32gb. I am running stable at 3600 16-19-16-36. 1.45v. Fully stable. Tested it for Aida64 just the memory test for 13 hours. Didn’t want to go higher in Volts, honestly fully satisfied with latency I am getting. It averages from 69-71ns. Depends on program. I guess because of background programs that I can’t kill.
 
NKD said:
I got the same kit in 32gb. I am running stable at 3600 16-19-16-36. 1.45v. Fully stable. Tested it for Aida64 just the memory test for 13 hours. Didn’t want to go higher in Volts, honestly fully satisfied with latency I am getting. It averages from 69-71ns. Depends on program. I guess because of background programs that I can’t kill.
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That's awesome! I hope to get the same results as you. Did you tweak sub-timings to get that stable or just the 4 main timings?
 
Has anybody done any extensive testing on Micron E? I went with the Hynix CJR after reading the following:

(Link should take you directly to the post containing the table)
https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-...membench-0-7-dram-bench-363.html#post27754172

There was a thread here about the same sniper kit as well but I can't remember where it was posted

The goal for me was simply to save money. Everybody is buying Sammy b-die while I think the prices are too much to justify. Will definitely report back with how it fares on the 3700x.
 
Mode13 said:
Has anybody done any extensive testing on Micron E? I went with the Hynix CJR after reading the following:

(Link should take you directly to the post containing the table)
https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-...membench-0-7-dram-bench-363.html#post27754172

There was a thread here about the same sniper kit as well but I can't remember where it was posted

The goal for me was simply to save money. Everybody is buying Sammy b-die while I think the prices are too much to justify. Will definitely report back with how it fares on the 3700x.
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The Hynix based kit you had was my second choice, but the lack of data on x470 is what made me decide to go with an "e" die kit. It has decent timings at stock so even if I can't go higher at least it will do that.
 
ccityinstaller said:
The Hynix based kit you had was my second choice, but the lack of data on x470 is what made me decide to go with an "e" die kit. It has decent timings at stock so even if I can't go higher at least it will do that.
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I'm reading good things about e-die as well. It should definitely be capable of squeezing out most of the performance we would realistically benefit from real world.

The Hynix CJR tested in the link I sent above appears to have been done with a 2700x on x470, (MSI x470 gaming m7 ac), so I have high hopes after seeing him pull off 3800 CL16 stable @ 1.42V
 
Rvenger said:
Not sure if anyone saw this. Reviewers didn't cover it according to der8auer

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Well, I can tell you why. Most reviewers don't own an oscilloscope. I know I don't. Furthermore, we had barely a week to get our testing done on these CPU's and then a whole lot more stuff to review after we did our initial Ryzen coverage.
 
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