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Would you like further explanation or have you figured it out?
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I hope people can turn the brightness down that is the only thing that would matter to me if the brightness slider was missing.
Why uninstall when you can dual boot? I haven't abandoned Windows 10 for gaming, but the rest of my time is spent in Linux. I do all my general computing/programming in Linux and only boot to my Win 10 partition when I want to game. All of the applications I use regularly are available on both OSes so the transition to Linux was pretty simple. Even the IDE I used at work (retired now), Code Composer Studio, is available under Linux. The one application I miss the most in Linux is AutoHotKey
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It's their OS, they can do what they want with it. A lot/most? people and business's have to use it. Gamers? Some games need 10, same with VR.
Not much the user can do about it. I wish Linux would get some serious love.
Not much the user can do about it. I wish Linux would get some serious love.
https://code.google.com/archive/p/autokey/
You could always use something like that... it sounds like you would be capable of picking up some python wihtout to much issue. Their are also a few simple tools like xdotool if you just want to use a bit of simple mouse manipulation in your bash scripts. Their are other specialized little programs that do the same type of stuff. Although you are retired and do know some codefu you might have the time to build a few of your own tools.
It has. The most hevaily developed... most expensive OS in existence is Linux. The main road block for most consumer type users if finding the correct Distro. Their are distros for every use and that is where the confusion comes in. Most of the negative things people have to say about Linux come down to people trying to force the wrong Distros to operate as a server or a consumer desktop. On the consumer desktop type use which includes games... Manjaro and Solus are the best place to start. 90% of your windows game library will just work. (yes in most cases you will drop a bit of performance, but not quality) A lot of games do look better in Linux as the Linux drivers don't cheat. If you don't care about gaming at all... there are plenty of good workstaiton distros out there but Suse is the best of them imo.
Your not wrong about some of the high end of it such as VR. Yes for the best support your still sort of stuck with windows right now. Windows VR titles do mostly work under steam play... of course perofrmance is more of an issue. If you look at the proton database many of the VR titles are gold/silver status, few are platinum. Its still a bit of a sore spot for steam play compatabilty. And of course even on 1080/2080 class hardware dropping even 10% in VR performance is more noticable... vs dropping 10% on non VR stuff where games are already running above the 70-140ish hrz refresh rates of our monitors anyway.
At the speed Valve has been pushing DXVK though... I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing at least some of the major VR titles moving to platinum status this year. One other option to consider though if you have a nice VR setup.... especially if you have a intel chip with a built in GPU. Pass through. Run windows in a VM.
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So out of nearly a billion users you're one of the few that use Linux. Welp that convinced me to switch over!
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Excellent! What distro are you going with?
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It has. The most hevaily developed... most expensive OS in existence is Linux. The main road block for most consumer type users if finding the correct Distro. Their are distros for every use and that is where the confusion comes in. Most of the negative things people have to say about Linux come down to people trying to force the wrong Distros to operate as a server or a consumer desktop. On the consumer desktop type use which includes games... Manjaro and Solus are the best place to start. 90% of your windows game library will just work. (yes in most cases you will drop a bit of performance, but not quality) A lot of games do look better in Linux as the Linux drivers don't cheat. If you don't care about gaming at all... there are plenty of good workstaiton distros out there but Suse is the best of them imo.
Your not wrong about some of the high end of it such as VR. Yes for the best support your still sort of stuck with windows right now. Windows VR titles do mostly work under steam play... of course perofrmance is more of an issue. If you look at the proton database many of the VR titles are gold/silver status, few are platinum. Its still a bit of a sore spot for steam play compatabilty. And of course even on 1080/2080 class hardware dropping even 10% in VR performance is more noticable... vs dropping 10% on non VR stuff where games are already running above the 70-140ish hrz refresh rates of our monitors anyway.
One other option to consider though if you have a nice VR setup.... especially if you have a intel chip with a built in GPU. Pass through. Run windows in a VM.
I've never tried Manjaro but you make me want to try it. I have always gone with Ubuntu MATE or Mint.
Nothing against the debian based ubuntu stuffs. But ya give Manjaro a go for a weekend and see what you think. I think the word "rolling" scares a lot of people for no good reason. Windows is a rolling platform. The difference is Manjaro is a currated rolling distro.... its based on Arch and they do test packages despite what some believe, manjaros "unstable" repos are the base arch packages. Manjaro does addiotnal testing meaning your normaly 2-4 weeks behind arch. That additonal testing makes a big difference... and there are times where the Manjaro devs will choose to hold troublesome packages longer. They have added a very handy Kernel update tool that makes sense to even complete linux noobies that allows you to switch kernels from a GUI and can easilly allow people to run multiple kernels. (I always leave the latest LTS kernel on my system along with the latest greatest)
Its as close to perfection for regular and power desktop users as there is right now. The speed of arch in a more reliable user frinedly package. Steam just works... installing wine+DXVK is as easy as 2 clicks and one terminal command "setup-dxvk install". Lutris also in the main repos and one click. I know Ubuntu is the Valve "recommended"... Manjaro does it better. I have been testing Solus again and I am really liking it as well... still a few issues, less software in the repos, and no AUR. Also no mirrors which means updates can suck depending how far you are from their one server. An interesting distro though... Solus-Gnome might be one of my favorite default Gnome setups. Manjaro is the best of all worlds though... large project with lots of mirrors, all the Arch software including the AUR, easy of use, one of the fastest bases in the game. Its hard to find any major faults. Heck its even 100% DE agnostic. Run KDE GNOME Mate XFCE whatever you like.
Crucial for whom?
Look, the home user is one thing, an Enterprise is something else entirely. As an Enterprise guy, I'm not restoring a system registry. My user's data are stored in the SAN and I don't have time to fiddle fuck around with a workstation. I'd tell the user to use one of the guest machines and image that bitch. In an hour or so the workstation is back on-line and the user is back in their cubby.
Crucial for whom?
Look, the home user is one thing, an Enterprise is something else entirely. As an Enterprise guy, I'm not restoring a system registry. My user's data are stored in the SAN and I don't have time to fiddle fuck around with a workstation. I'd tell the user to use one of the guest machines and image that bitch. In an hour or so the workstation is back on-line and the user is back in their cubby.
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So why are you ball aching people who have a problem with it?
The main issue with this as wtih most MS PR fuck ups. Isn't that backing up the registry is some mission criticl anything. Its that they claim to knowinlgy have disabled a feature... and let people think it was still working. If your going to disable it... why not have the software right up say. Registry backup disabled. Why did they disable it on the back end and allow the front end to continue reporting something that wasn't happening.
As a bug its a woops... all well stupid feature anyway. By design (disabled on the backend with front end not saying boo) its complete BS.
I am not sure I buy their by design assertion... it more sounds like a bug someone didn't want to own. I have no idea why perhaps MS drops your bonus payments if your responsable for bugs. lol
Also has MS not heard of backup cacheing. If they where truely worried about space... why not add a simple cache level feature. (Number of registry backups to retain) Set it to 3 and it keeps the 3 most recent backups and deltes the rest. MS could easily set the default on such a cache to 1 or even zero if they are really worred about peoples storage space. lol
As a bug its a woops... all well stupid feature anyway. By design (disabled on the backend with front end not saying boo) its complete BS.
I am not sure I buy their by design assertion... it more sounds like a bug someone didn't want to own. I have no idea why perhaps MS drops your bonus payments if your responsable for bugs. lol
Also has MS not heard of backup cacheing. If they where truely worried about space... why not add a simple cache level feature. (Number of registry backups to retain) Set it to 3 and it keeps the 3 most recent backups and deltes the rest. MS could easily set the default on such a cache to 1 or even zero if they are really worred about peoples storage space. lol
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The newest release: Windows 10
I wasn't trying to convince you.
https://code.google.com/archive/p/autokey/
You could always use something like that... it sounds like you would be capable of picking up some python wihtout to much issue. Their are also a few simple tools like xdotool if you just want to use a bit of simple mouse manipulation in your bash scripts. Their are other specialized little programs that do the same type of stuff. Although you are retired and do know some codefu you might have the time to build a few of your own tools.
I actually tried AutoKey a few years ago and found it was too slow for my main use case. I mostly use AutoHotKey to make all of my editors/IDE/word processors use the Wordstar control sequences (yes, I'm that old). With AutoHotKey, there's no noticeable delay between hitting a control sequence and having the operation occur. With AutoKey, it was very noticeable. I may have to revisit it since it may have been sped up by now.
I could probably code something up, but it's not enough of an issue at the moment. Most of my Windows and Linux coding (console type applications) has been for USB audio tools and DSP algorithms. About the only thing I've done in regards to the Linux keyboard is modify the 'us' keyboard to make the cap lock into the control key, the control key into the alt key and the alt key into the cap lock key. Making the cap lock into the control key is the only way the WordStar control sequence comfortable are to use.
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Nope.gifMore like people that use computer for more than gaming migrated to linux years ago.
More and better productivity suites on Windows. It isn't and won't be the year of Linux desktop for a very long time, if ever.
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So the software for windows is good, but the OS sucks.
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Nothing "sucks", especially not more than Linux.So the software for windows is good, but the OS sucks.
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I was just going by what you said. The software is better, but said nothing about the OS.Nothing "sucks", especially not more than Linux.
Since if you could use them on all platforms, windows would go in the gutter. Linux is just as easy to use.
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Eh, no. Why would I bother relearning what already worked?I was just going by what you said. The software is better, but said nothing about the OS.
Since if you could use them on all platforms, windows would go in the gutter. Linux is just as easy to use.
I guess your still on a windows phone device as well right... or are you still rocking a OG blackberry ? Things change, no one is forcing you too... but chance happens whether you accept it or not.
And what productivity suite ? What Adobe crap ? lol Outside of the dying adobe products almost every major professional package has a Linux version these days. The professional space went from Mac to Windows and it has been slowly going Linux (unifying the workstation and server bits) for sometime now. MS suite of stuffs is cloud based... and there isn't much forcing anyone to stick with windows anymore.
Except MS themselves.
https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-linux-azure-windows-cloud-2019-7
It might not be on desktops everywhere, but linux runs the world.
As computings goes cloud only, desktops will matter very little.
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More like sys admins and some developers did that. I know a lot of engineers and software devs and the vast majority run windows at home. In fact, most run Windows at work, but there are some that use linux but there's some logic there, since all of our software is written for a Linux back end.More like people that use computer for more than gaming migrated to linux years ago.
At home, the only linux I run is on my Synology NAS.
Well that's hardly limited to MS. I can't count the number of times we've gotten software that has a huge issue, and the vendor says it's working as designed. ME: Well then your design is flawed.
In one case, one of their senior engineers said it was a bug and then when it was clear it'd be hard to fix, they said, "it's working as designed." Even the senior engineer suddenly said that.
Aside from them not saying it failed, I don't see a big deal here, but that's probably because I only use Sys Create/Restore. I'm sure I've saved the Registry at some point, but it was probably back in the XP of Vista days. I also figure I image my C drive every week, so if worse comes to worse, I could restore from an image (though I've been running 10 for almost 4 years and if I ever did an image restore, it'd have to have been in 2015 (and I dont' think I did it then).
It's not a perfect OS, but it's been at least as stable as 7 and 8.1
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Desktop will never go cloud only. Not everyone is excited about storing all their data on corporate servers. Just like how Stadia will be a colossal failure. Then there's that pesky issue of data caps and greedy isps in the US which all but guarantees that mass cloud adoption for gaming or desktop use will never take off.
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Well not 100% ... And don't get me wrong, in many ways I don't like where computing is heading... However if we are going to talk " vast majority" I don't think we disagree thats where we are headed. At some point it will matter little what os a device runs, only which services it connects to.
I agree Standia is DOA , I would argue only becuase they will pretend to sell you individual games, as oppsed to access to libraries.
Had it been the Netflix or Spotify of games, it would have been a pre order for me. If i aint owing shit, then its access on a monthly basis, and thats okay, but I want a library(and to be a convert in games a *vast* library) With games there is no excuse. Yes they can get very expensive, but so is TV and movies, and streaming with vast libraries are happening no problem.
Yes the start menu like many things really is personal opinion. I'm rather resistant to change, so its no surprise I am not so happy with the interface on 10.
I have not needed backup options such as system restore, but I didn't find I used them in 7 either. Long term stability seems about the same to me.
As I mentioned, its all the small bugs that really have turned me off 10. Its not that they exist, its the fact that MS clearly doesn't care and is not fixing them.
I'm not. I'm bashing on people who grandstand and exaggerate problems for effect.
I'm saying that this is not a problem for 800 million users, it's a problem for far fewer than that. And even then, it's not even all that much of a problem for the remainder. Most users don't have anything worth worrying about to begin with. But what do I care really? This guy can make mountains out of mole hills if that's what he enjoys doing. Just don't expect the world to get indignant over nothing along with him.
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Or it could be people are also mad because they were not told it wasn't working? If it still says it is, then that is wrong.
I mean, if you agree with companies lying to you, good for you.
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Nope, it is a Mountain, molehill sort of thing.......
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So your opinion, gotcha.
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So your opinion, gotcha.
Right back at you..... Although, nope, the article writer actually did what I said.....
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He wasnt grandstanding, it seems you are in opposition to his basic common sense approach, baffling.
Not so at all. Now you may very well be correct about things within your experience, but there is a wide wide world out there that is radically different. Take the largest single Enterprise in the world, the US Army's, where they re-engineer their own OS deployments as well as their own custom app deployments. They are not going to a Linux desktop OS any time soon and their sales are more than enough to help MS stay in the black.
Take the average worker in our environment, who has two to three development workstations and an administrative workstation all running Win10. One person, four copies of the OS running and paid for. Many have more, I have four myself. We have a row of eight cubicles filled with guest workstations, that's at least 16+ that are not even assigned to a specific individual. We have at least 80+ people working and our little organization is good for at least 280 copies of Win10.
We are just one small element of a really huge organization so what should that suggest to you?
Now they certainly don't all have an individual work computer, not all soldiers sit at an office desk. But even if the number is 1 million Win10 desktops/laptops, there is also the rest of the DoD and that alone is a huge chunk of the 800 million OS deployments quoted above.
Now go do a similar thing for the rest of the big government agencies, some are better at this than others, then consider all the Universities and Colleges who should have a reasonably Enterprise running where this is no issue. The millions at risk are dropping away at a substantial rate. Businesses who do software development will also use Ghost images or WDS images to rapidly deploy builds so there are many more again that won't have an issue.
Of course, this is just the US. There remains all those other enlightened countries out there who are not still running WinXP and who adhere to accepted best practices where this isn't an issue either.
So if this isn't a problem for your average Enterprise environment, what's left is small businesses and individual owners. Now I don't want to sound as dismissive as you accuse me of being, but let's look at both of these and consider that a small business owner really should be looking at what they must do to protect their tools, their investment, their business. They may be small, even just one machine, but this isn't the first risk to come along to the PC world so have a way to put their machine into working order while ensuring off site backups of crucial data happen should be common for most.
And this brings us to the home user. I'll argue that you have three types of home users, those who know what they are doing and are protected, those who will never be protected, and those who, through design or hubris, have nothing to protect to begin with.
Pin me down and yes, MS dropped the ball again. Is the real world impact serious? I don't see it.
So between the US army and your company.... that is what half the 800 million win 10 licences.
Sounds like they should have just apologised to the army and you guys for their lying software and called it a day.
And yes I agree this isn't a big deal... it just looks bad having your software lie by design.
Sounds like they should have just apologised to the army and you guys for their lying software and called it a day.
And yes I agree this isn't a big deal... it just looks bad having your software lie by design.
I'm not myopic enough to see it as MS lying to me. Software development is normally conducted by teams. The software team that did this either screwed up and failed on the notification part of the code, or the testers failed to write a correct test case, or any number of other explanations short of being a simpleton and calling them liars.
If something doesn't work right, report the bug, don't cry that you were lied too. If MS doesn't patch your bug, there is a chance that the patch would be overcome by other changes and make it a wasted effort, it's a company's product and they never claimed it would be perfect for everyone always. If it doesn't work for you find one that does.
If something doesn't work right, report the bug, don't cry that you were lied too. If MS doesn't patch your bug, there is a chance that the patch would be overcome by other changes and make it a wasted effort, it's a company's product and they never claimed it would be perfect for everyone always. If it doesn't work for you find one that does.