Radeon VII Owner's Club!

russnuck said:
At first they said they wanted me to return the AIO to them ($445). Then they asked for invoices for both the AIO and card. Their communications are very unclear...


What they asked for at first

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Hi,

the cooler gets in touch with the GFX-Caps. Please mount the original cooler on your GFX-Card and send us the cooler back with the original package, invoice fort he shippment and invoice fort he cooler. After we have recieved the cooler, we will refund you the amount fort he cooler as well as fort he shipping.

Have a great day!
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Then
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Hi,

OK, that is really too much. The point is we need all that stuff for the insurance issues. Can you send us just the invoices from the cooler and the GFX-Card and we will try it to handle it by this way. Have you bought the cooler from us?

Sorry for the inconvenience
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Maybe they were indeed asking for everything in the first communication and it was just lost in translation.
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It sounds like they want the invoice from when you bought the card so they can compensate you if the card died, and then make a claim against their business insurance. I'm kind of shocked they'd be this forthcoming about this, but I guess maybe Germany has stricter rules than the US does regarding liability in this sort of situation.

Anway,I think I'd test the card as soon as you can. If it didn't die while you were using it, it's probably fine, but you should obviously test it.
 
RazorWind said:
It sounds like they want the invoice from when you bought the card so they can compensate you if the card died, and then make a claim against their business insurance. I'm kind of shocked they'd be this forthcoming about this, but I guess maybe Germany has stricter rules than the US does regarding liability in this sort of situation.

Anway,I think I'd test the card as soon as you can. If it didn't die while you were using it, it's probably fine, but you should obviously test it.
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Yeah, just not entirely clear.

The card worked when I shut down the system. I'd rather not put the stock cooler back on, so I am trying to figure out the cooling. I want to go custom loop now, but I need to wait on the refund.
 
russnuck if you are shipping just the AIO back, tell your shipper that its a return for repair. The return for repairs are under a different category (it's called an HTS code for customs purposes) than a straight shipment. Just a headsup.
 
dvsman said:
russnuck if you are shipping just the AIO back, tell your shipper that its a return for repair. The return for repairs are under a different category (it's called an HTS code for customs purposes) than a straight shipment. Just a headsup.
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If they end up needing it back, I will try that.

Thanks
 
Finally got to actually install/use my new RVII last night! This card is a shitload faster than my old 290 was! Like way faster! Played a few hours of Just Cause 3 which I used to have to run at ~lowish settings because teh 290 struggled quite a bit with it, but oh man, the RVII handles it like a champ at 90-100+ fps @ 1440p max settings.

Oh, and this is my first time gaming with freesync/high hz and I am sold.
 
Some progress. They asked for pictures of the card and the invoices for both. Those are being submitted to their business insurance for processing. I am hoping that it is enough.
 
I've been rocking my radeon VII, has samsung memory wont o/c 1200 with out crashing, My first Radeon VII had hynix and o/ced to 1200 no problem,

I have had Radeon VII underwater, card boost up to 2000-2100 on stock vcore, Max hotspot 90c gpu sits around 60-65, Running 1 ekwb PE 240mm rad with ryzen 2600 @ 4.0, O/ced memory from 3000 to 3466 max ive tested. but I love Amd right now, Good cpu and i personally feel Radeon VII is steal for price, Use it for Gaming and Pro software.

You get 2-1 GPU Gaming and Work.

My last Amd card was 6970 2gb i belive ram size was.

Radeon VII + Samsung nu8000 75" 4k@60hz or 1440p@120hz,

freesync on 75" T.V, once you go big you never wanna go back lol, My living room is gaming room lol, Until i get Mrs lol
 
Gulkor said:
I've been rocking my radeon VII, has samsung memory wont o/c 1200 with out crashing, My first Radeon VII had hynix and o/ced to 1200 no problem,

I have had Radeon VII underwater, card boost up to 2000-2100 on stock vcore, Max hotspot 90c gpu sits around 60-65, Running 1 ekwb PE 240mm rad with ryzen 2600 @ 4.0, O/ced memory from 3000 to 3466 max ive tested. but I love Amd right now, Good cpu and i personally feel Radeon VII is steal for price, Use it for Gaming and Pro software.

You get 2-1 GPU Gaming and Work.

My last Amd card was 6970 2gb i belive ram size was.

Radeon VII + Samsung nu8000 75" 4k@60hz or 1440p@120hz,

freesync on 75" T.V, once you go big you never wanna go back lol, My living room is gaming room lol, Until i get Mrs lol
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What are you using to verify your clock speeds? I'm asking since AMD still notes in the latest 19.5.1/.2 drivers that monitoring software may not accurately reflect clock speeds.


Glad the card is still working out for you!

PS, how long is is that Belkin 2.1 cable you recommended?
 
Just waiting on my refund now. They haven't specified if it was for just the cooler or included the card. They did submit the card pictures to their insurance, so who knows.
 
you guys still recommend buying this card even today? It doesnt look like Navi is going to outperform it any ways right? Sure it will be more efficient and cheaper
 
primetime said:
you guys still recommend buying this card even today? It doesnt look like Navi is going to outperform it any ways right? Sure it will be more efficient and cheaper
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Might be able to find a better cooler on Navi. Unless you custom cool this card is somewhat held back.

See what happens at e3? nVidia is supposed to reveal something “super” I think and more info on AMD.
 
primetime said:
you guys still recommend buying this card even today? It doesnt look like Navi is going to outperform it any ways right? Sure it will be more efficient and cheaper
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If you're going to wait for Navi and you don't need the compute grunt or the extra VRAM on the VII, then it'd be hard to recommend the VII.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
If you're going to wait for Navi and you don't need the compute grunt or the extra VRAM on the VII, then it'd be hard to recommend the VII.
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Unless AMD is sandbagging like crazy, then he can get Navi performance now all v56/64. If you want Max possible performance with HDMI supported FreeSync, then the VII is the best there is.


Now, the wildcard may very well be how high Navi clocks. If it can sustain 1750Mhz+ with t claimed IPC uplift, then it be as fast as a VI...Let's see what happens
 
I still like Radeon VII, for the price it is not bad.

To be honest, I've mostly been on my Nvidia rig playing indie games that in no way need a 2080 Ti, but I'm having fun.

I'd say if you can wait another month things may be looking more interesting. Navi could be a big surprise, or there could be price drops, etc.
 
ccityinstaller said:
Unless AMD is sandbagging like crazy, then he can get Navi performance now all v56/64. If you want Max possible performance with HDMI supported FreeSync, then the VII is the best there is.


Now, the wildcard may very well be how high Navi clocks. If it can sustain 1750Mhz+ with t claimed IPC uplift, then it be as fast as a VI...Let's see what happens
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Well im already using a Vega64 and getting great results at (VSR) 2560*1440 with the division 2.....3840*2160 struggles...I dont need the upgrade as is just love messing with new stuff especially when it looks like it will be quite a while before AMD releases another high end model with anything near the Radeon7 specs. Im sure this time next year things will be different.
 
primetime said:
Well im already using a Vega64 and getting great results at (VSR) 2560*1440 with the division 2.....3840*2160 struggles...I dont need the upgrade as is just love messing with new stuff especially when it looks like it will be quite a while before AMD releases another high end model with anything near the Radeon7 specs. Im sure this time next year things will be different.
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I think AMD is just waiting for TSMC C to truly have 7nm+ in volume production with decent to great yields on large dies. Going small with Navi allows them to get a product out they can sell in volume while reserving the bulk of their 7nm water allotment for the high margin Epic and then Ryzen SKU (s)....


TSMC can only so 1 million units, and that is divided up among AMD, several FPGA firms, Apple, and Huawei. So if you are supply constrained it's better to get the high yield/good margin products out while limiting your risk on large dies when you know there is a new process you can run your current design on with no work and get a 10-15% improvement.

If you want to play with something new, then pick up one of those AC AIO kits for your 64 or go full WC'ibg. If you shop smart used you can build a killer loop fairly cheap and you get the benefit of adding to it and taking it from build a o build. My Alphacool 420mm rad cost me $90 with 3 EK Vadar (the upgraded ones ) 140mm fans shipped! The fans alone cost more then that.

VEGA 64, if it's a good die, will get you a nice boost, especially if you have Samsung Ram (which I believe all 64s did but I can't remember for sure). 1700Mhz plus 1100-1150Mhz HBM uncorks the 64s a good bit.
 
ccityinstaller said:
I think AMD is just waiting for TSMC C to truly have 7nm+ in volume production with decent to great yields on large dies. Going small with Navi allows them to get a product out they can sell in volume while reserving the bulk of their 7nm water allotment for the high margin Epic and then Ryzen SKU (s)....
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Which for the moment, would appear to be the best strategy. Hopefully their marketing (and their drivers!) are ready for Navi.

ccityinstaller said:
If you want to play with something new, then pick up one of those AC AIO kits for your 64 or go full WC'ibg. If you shop smart used you can build a killer loop fairly cheap and you get the benefit of adding to it and taking it from build a o build. My Alphacool 420mm rad cost me $90 with 3 EK Vadar (the upgraded ones ) 140mm fans shipped! The fans alone cost more then that.
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This is a great recommendation; personally, I don't want to run another higher-end GPU without an AIO ever again. My 1080Ti with a Corsair AIO has me spoiled, and given the performance available to Vega when cooled over stock, that'd be a hard proposition to pass up.
 
ccityinstaller said:
I think AMD is just waiting for TSMC C to truly have 7nm+ in volume production with decent to great yields on large dies. Going small with Navi allows them to get a product out they can sell in volume while reserving the bulk of their 7nm water allotment for the high margin Epic and then Ryzen SKU (s)....


TSMC can only so 1 million units, and that is divided up among AMD, several FPGA firms, Apple, and Huawei. So if you are supply constrained it's better to get the high yield/good margin products out while limiting your risk on large dies when you know there is a new process you can run your current design on with no work and get a 10-15% improvement.

If you want to play with something new, then pick up one of those AC AIO kits for your 64 or go full WC'ibg. If you shop smart used you can build a killer loop fairly cheap and you get the benefit of adding to it and taking it from build a o build. My Alphacool 420mm rad cost me $90 with 3 EK Vadar (the upgraded ones ) 140mm fans shipped! The fans alone cost more then that.

VEGA 64, if it's a good die, will get you a nice boost, especially if you have Samsung Ram (which I believe all 64s did but I can't remember for sure). 1700Mhz plus 1100-1150Mhz HBM uncorks the 64s a good bit.
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well im already thinking of liquid cooling since im not over impressed with my current air cooler.......my ancient ultra 120 cooler would really draw the heat off the cpu and get hot when stress testing the cpu.....nothing i do seems to make this Mugen 5 get the same results (since the dam base is not really flat) Maybe i should lap it till its flat lol
 
primetime said:
well im already thinking of liquid cooling since im not over impressed with my current air cooler.......my ancient ultra 120 cooler would really draw the heat off the cpu and get hot when stress testing the cpu.....nothing i do seems to make this Mugen 5 get the same results (since the dam base is not really flat) Maybe i should lap it till its flat lol
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Same here. I have the 50th anniversary VII and can't under-clock it at all. I have to run the drivers with stock settings to keep it stable. I'd love to have an AIO cooler for this toaster oven.
 
SetoAgain said:
Same here. I have the 50th anniversary VII and can't under-clock it at all. I have to run the drivers with stock settings to keep it stable. I'd love to have an AIO cooler for this toaster oven.
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Are you running it undervolted AND OC'd? If so, are both the core and memory OC'd?

Did you make 100% sure your underclock was stable before altering any other clocks?

Which drivers are you using? Which games/programs are having issues?

Do you have your system ram OC'd?

Rest of system specs?
 
He must mean under-volt or over-clock.

My VII 50thAE overclocks pretty well, I have it set to 2Ghz and it regularly runs at ~1950Mhz. Ram at 1150Mhz. Temps are pretty good too but I have the fan curve turned way up.
 
Time for a new card for me...
Any big reason to choose one vendor specifically... Asus/MSI/Gigabyte/Sapphire/XFX/etc?
 
Shouldn't make a huge difference. They are all basically the same with a different sticker.
 
vr. said:
Time for a new card for me...
Any big reason to choose one vendor specifically... Asus/MSI/Gigabyte/Sapphire/XFX/etc?
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XFX seems to be slightly cheaper though amazon in us.....for me thats way i would go....
 
vr. said:
Time for a new card for me...
Any big reason to choose one vendor specifically... Asus/MSI/Gigabyte/Sapphire/XFX/etc?
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Length of the warranty and how difficult customer service is to get might be worth considering if you're not the type to upgrade just whenever the feeling strikes you.

XFX used to have a theoretically unlimited warranty for the original owner. I'm not sure if they still do or not, but it would be worth considering.

I'd probably order the red 50th Anniversary edition version from AMD, myself, unless the regular ones were way cheaper, though.
 
Devil May Cry 5 still runs in slow motion for me. I haven’t tried it on my 2080ti since I don’t think it’s my cup of tea... just find it strange since it came with my Radeon VII and I run an all AMD rig.
 
Dayaks said:
Devil May Cry 5 still runs in slow motion for me. I haven’t tried it on my 2080ti since I don’t think it’s my cup of tea... just find it strange since it came with my Radeon VII and I run an all AMD rig.
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That’s definitely odd. Can’t speak of VII but Vega 64 runs the game superbly. AMD drivers strike again?
 
RazorWind said:
Length of the warranty and how difficult customer service is to get might be worth considering if you're not the type to upgrade just whenever the feeling strikes you.

XFX used to have a theoretically unlimited warranty for the original owner. I'm not sure if they still do or not, but it would be worth considering.

I'd probably order the red 50th Anniversary edition version from AMD, myself, unless the regular ones were way cheaper, though.
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XFX does a three year warranty now, has been for a few years or so.
 
The Cobra said:
XFX does a three year warranty now, has been for a few years or so.
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This is true, but they used to have a very helpful Rep here that could expedite rma issues so that we would have a new card in a weeks time instead of taking 2 or 3 weeks. ([email protected])
I like the idea of having the RED one as well, so i be tempted to get it straight from AMD as well.
 
Some updates on my AlphaCool Radeon VII saga.

AIO Cooler = Refunded
Radeon 7 = Refunded

They are shipping me a revised block as well as adding a 50 Euro gift card. Fortunately I think my card might still be good (video still worked before removing the cooler).
 
I will not pay what the price tag on BIG NAVI will say, not even if it hands down are the most awesome GFX card the world have ever seen.

If someone donate a sweet 4K monitor to me, then we will talk after that.
 
I'd wait for Navi and the Nvidia super releases. Hopefully it shifts some of the prices. Rumor has it, AMD may be taking a loss on the Radeon VII but if Nvidia drops the price of the 2080, AMD will need to respond. Then again, I bought the VII knowing Navi 10 was going to challenge the VII.
 
crazycuz20 said:
I'd wait for Navi and the Nvidia super releases. Hopefully it shifts some of the prices. Rumor has it, AMD may be taking a loss on the Radeon VII but if Nvidia drops the price of the 2080, AMD will need to respond. Then again, I bought the VII knowing Navi 10 was going to challenge the VII.
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AMD might loosing a little bit but since they do not offer an Instinct card with less then 64 CUs all those dies would go into the scrap pile. It gave 4k users a FreeSync option, and opened up higher FPS 1440p gaming.

Was it a stop gap? Perhaps. But Navi 10 isn't going to top the VII with 40CUs and 45ish percent of the memory bandwidth. I hope it does give the 2070 a run for it's money.

Had I not purchased a pair of VIIS I WOUld get the 50th Anniversary Edition and put a GPU block on it. The fact that AMD is following Nvidas lead with locking down PowerPlay tables doesn't sit too well with me. They clearly know something so I assume it's to ensure they do not have their own "Space Invader" crisis.
 
ccityinstaller said:
AMD might loosing a little bit but since they do not offer an Instinct card with less then 64 CUs all those dies would go into the scrap pile. It gave 4k users a FreeSync option, and opened up higher FPS 1440p gaming.

Was it a stop gap? Perhaps. But Navi 10 isn't going to top the VII with 40CUs and 45ish percent of the memory bandwidth. I hope it does give the 2070 a run for it's money.

Had I not purchased a pair of VIIS I WOUld get the 50th Anniversary Edition and put a GPU block on it. The fact that AMD is following Nvidas lead with locking down PowerPlay tables doesn't sit too well with me. They clearly know something so I assume it's to ensure they do not have their own "Space Invader" crisis.
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nVidia cards are really locked down with Turing so not sure if your space invaders hypothesis holds up. It’s even a pain to shunt mod nVidia anymore.

Sucks they locked down their cards. Was practically why I bought the VII.
 
They are shipping me the update M02 version of the AIO. I plan on using the gift card they are sending to buy a 360mm radiator as an upgrade. Hoping that it works out much better this time...
 
My Radeon VII doesn't get used much, bought waterblock been underwater first day i bought it.

Use my laptop all time, since opening up my landscaping business.

Thinking selling my Radeon VII with waterblock, invest cash into my business.

Dont have time game anymore
 
Gulkor said:
My Radeon VII doesn't get used much, bought waterblock been underwater first day i bought it.

Use my laptop all time, since opening up my landscaping business.

Thinking selling my Radeon VII with waterblock, invest cash into my business.

Dont have time game anymore
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I'll trade ya a RTX 2080 for your VII....
 
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