Who wants a Ryzen 9 laptop?

IdiotInCharge said:
Oh it's not just the laptop weight, as I carry around plenty of other kit (see photography section in sig).

But when I can carry around a quad-core ultrabook with 16GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD that's right at two pounds, maybe two and a half with the charger, going up to ten pounds or more for a DTR and charger stops making sense real quick.
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Horses for courses. If you need GPU acceleration or its the difference between processing in the field and processing when you get home and potentially finding out too late that you need more footage or capture, and the conditions no longer exist or can be recreated, you stop caring about a few pounds... That's why I have both thin and light and a monster dtr (and an sff). I bring the one that best is suited - sometimes multiple.
 
I recently (year ago) bought a laptop and processor was barely on my radar:

I wanted:
1) Great build quality (hinges, frame, etc)
2) Decent battery life.
3) IPS Screen (1080p or better)
4) usb-c with thunderbolt
5) real ethernet port.
6) ddr4

Processor wasn't even on my list. I ended up with an Latitude 7k series, with 3 year on-site warranty & I5-7300u. It has replacable battery, ram, wifi, etc. It isn't heavy & works great except for occasional throttling (my only complaint).

If AMD can put out something in a GREAT build quality (high end biz laptop) I'd look at it. Otherwise I don't care.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
Hard to do MXM and put in a CPU socket (and socket everything else) and even remotely approach portability, let alone build something solidly- and if that could be done, the cost is astronomical. I'm not entirely sure it has been done.

I've resigned myself to upgrading laptops when needed.
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I had a Sagaer(sp?) laptop that was rebranded as a Power something (some small high prices boutique builder)....It has a mobile Sandy based 2.8Ghz 4c8t (socketed), 4 so SODIMMS, a WiFi/BT card (socketed), and an Nvidia mobile 560 or 570 I can't remember. That used MXM-B (aka socketed). Had a 17" 1080P screen, dual 1 TB spinners, and a BR drive.


It weighed a Lot, and I paid $460 for it (1.5 years old and it was $4k new in 2011-2012). So while it CAN be done, the 35 mins a fresh battery charge held away from the 330W brick wasn't much. The brick weighted almost 1/2 of the laptop, thing was insane!
 
I'm using a slightly newer 17" Sager / Clevo as my bedroom HTPC right now ;)

It's staying in the bedroom...
 
I had a sager / clevo but it thermal throttled like a bitch. The cooling solution was insufficient so I went with an msi.
 
mnewxcv said:
I had a sager / clevo but it thermal throttled like a bitch. The cooling solution was insufficient so I went with an msi.
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WHich is funny because MSI had such a crap rep for cooling using a single fan for mid to high end gear cooling, My Sager I had was awesome, dual fan design, i7, but only had a 860M in it.
 
MrGuvernment said:
WHich is funny because MSI had such a crap rep for cooling using a single fan for mid to high end gear cooling, My Sager I had was awesome, dual fan design, i7, but only had a 860M in it.
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Mine is louder than I'd like, but it's not whiny, so I tolerate it. Cooling is fine performance wise, with an i7 3610QM and GTX 675M, which is even older ;). Have an ancient SATA SSD in it, runs like a dream today, plays simple games extremely well with Optimus (League of Legends in my case). Played Battlefield 3 and Fallout 3 acceptably in those days, and Overwatch I'd rate at acceptable today.
 
MrGuvernment said:
WHich is funny because MSI had such a crap rep for cooling using a single fan for mid to high end gear cooling, My Sager I had was awesome, dual fan design, i7, but only had a 860M in it.
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the sager I had was the single fan model with a 4800mq and a 765M. It was fine for gaming but I do video editing which can max out CPU and GPU simultaneously. I ended up modifying the cooling solution which helped somewhat.

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Well, I'm with you on that one. That's poorly designed; there definitely shouldn't have been that much null z-height inside the enclosure.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
Well, I'm with you on that one. That's poorly designed; there definitely shouldn't have been that much null z-height inside the enclosure.
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the secondary hard drive was also directly over the chipset, and would get up to 60C under system load, even if the hard drive wasn't spinning. It was a nightmare of a machine :D Would gladly get a newer Sager though as I know they've improved in every way and even back in the core 2 duo days they were top notch. I just got the model where someone decided a second hard drive was better than a second fan.
 
mnewxcv said:
the secondary hard drive was also directly over the chipset, and would get up to 60C under system load, even if the hard drive wasn't spinning. It was a nightmare of a machine :D Would gladly get a newer Sager though as I know they've improved in every way and even back in the core 2 duo days they were top notch. I just got the model where someone decided a second hard drive was better than a second fan.
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I won't claim that the one I have was 'better'; I've replaced the motherboard in it and man, that's one complicated and quite flimsy product. Well over forty screws to get to that point, had to take it apart from both directions. It had what seemed like five layers with the motherboard in the middle.

It seems that modern designs have significantly simplified, which is a good thing for repairability. I got the Clevo for less than half what an equivalent Alienware would cost, so I get it, but man- never again.
 
7nm power efficiency for having 8 cores in laptop will benefit so much
 
oleNBR said:
7nm power efficiency for having 8 cores in laptop will benefit so much
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7nm TSMC period would be nice to see. AMD could scale down to ultrabook levels (15w CPUs) too, and realistically that'd be enough. Perhaps they'd do an eight-core and then a harvested six-core version from that.

However, I can get all that from Intel- and Intel's 10nm (probably better than TSMC 7nm) quad core parts are already shipping. What I want from AMD is to get a competent GPU on-package with great idle performance, and be able to get say 1080p120 with VRR going too.
 
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