Cyberpunk 2077: Official Thread

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Hopefully the alt-right outrage circlejerk over some tweets or whatever will go away soon, shit gets old real fucking fast.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
By "the alt left" you mean that one weirdo twitter user, right?
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Was a little more than that, a number of big "gaming websites" ran some nonsensical hit pieces against CD Projekt. An example is Rock Paper Shotgun, which have outed themselves as a political commentary site some time back. Some of the other posts from various forums (and I think reddit) was trying to tell Mike Pondsmith how to think until he started directly replying.
 
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Flogger23m said:
Was a little more than that, a number of big "gaming websites" ran some nonsensical hit pieces against CD Projekt. An example is Rock Paper Shotgun, which have outed themselves as a political commentary site some time back. Some of the other posts from various forums (and I think reddit) more was trying to tell Mike Pondsmith how to think until he started directly replying.
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And it wasn't just gaming sites, there were several mainstream outlets that participated in what looked like a co-ordinated smear campaign. To suggest that this incident was the product of a single nutty twitter user is intellectually dishonest.
 
TheToE! said:
I just hope CDPR has the stones to tell these idiots to fuck off and make the game that they, and 99.9% of their fanbase want.
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Of course they will. Does anyone honestly think CDPR (or any large and hugely popular developer) would just bend over backwards to kiss the ass of a few journalists? All this amounts to is a bunch of outrage culture bullshit, the same thing that's been going on for years now. A few outlets publish some left-leaning response to a generally well-liked game/developer/IP, right-leaning sites/social media commentators respond in massive waves, rinse, repeat. Nothing actually happens other than the "the left is trying to censor our beloved games" narrative grows and Youtube outrage artists like YongYea, LegacyKillaHD, etc get more clicks and some monetization from it.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Of course they will. Does anyone honestly think CDPR (or any large and hugely popular developer) would just bend over backwards to kiss the ass of a few journalists? All this amounts to is a bunch of outrage culture bullshit, the same thing that's been going on for years now. A few outlets publish some left-leaning response to a generally well-liked game/developer/IP, right-leaning sites/social media commentators respond in massive waves, rinse, repeat. Nothing actually happens other than the "the left is trying to censor our beloved games" narrative grows and Youtube outrage artists like YongYea, LegacyKillaHD, etc get more clicks and some monetization from it.
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yes, they did bend over backwards to kiss some ass. They fired their community manager in Dec for a couple of tweets. "#WontBeErased" “Did you just assume their gender?” etc.

IMO the whining comes from both sides, SJWs and also anti-SJWs. These are video games, not realistic depictions of reality. Play the game if you like the content they have created, skip if if you don't.
All this continual whining solves nothing.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Of course they will. Does anyone honestly think CDPR (or any large and hugely popular developer) would just bend over backwards to kiss the ass of a few journalists? All this amounts to is a bunch of outrage culture bullshit, the same thing that's been going on for years now. A few outlets publish some left-leaning response to a generally well-liked game/developer/IP, right-leaning sites/social media commentators respond in massive waves, rinse, repeat. Nothing actually happens other than the "the left is trying to censor our beloved games" narrative grows and Youtube outrage artists like YongYea, LegacyKillaHD, etc get more clicks and some monetization from it.
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So convenient that your warped narrative conveniently overlooks the clickbait "journalists", or grifters like Anita Sarkeesian, manufacturing outrage for clicks and monetisation.
 
I'm not touching Anita Sarkeesian with a ten foot pole. She's the Hillary Clinton of the right-wing gaming crowd... might as well shout at a brick wall for all the good it will do.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Of course they will. Does anyone honestly think CDPR (or any large and hugely popular developer) would just bend over backwards to kiss the ass of a few journalists? All this amounts to is a bunch of outrage culture bullshit, the same thing that's been going on for years now. A few outlets publish some left-leaning response to a generally well-liked game/developer/IP, right-leaning sites/social media commentators respond in massive waves, rinse, repeat. Nothing actually happens other than the "the left is trying to censor our beloved games" narrative grows and Youtube outrage artists like YongYea, LegacyKillaHD, etc get more clicks and some monetization from it.
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The fact that you're calling YongYea an "outrage artist" proves you've never actually watched his content. And no it wasn't just a "left-leaning response". These sites create outright hit pieces on anyone or anything they don't like or think will get them clicks.
 
Flogger23m said:
Was a little more than that, a number of big "gaming websites" ran some nonsensical hit pieces against CD Projekt. An example is Rock Paper Shotgun, which have outed themselves as a political commentary site some time back. Some of the other posts from various forums (and I think reddit) was trying to tell Mike Pondsmith how to think until he started directly replying.
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Yea and Mike tore into their asses....He was NOT happy about it. I'm glad people are starting to pushing back but the problem here is that even when people are outted and challenged they take zero responsibility and blame others for the circumstance even when they started the mess.
I miss the days when games were actually viewed at a certain art form and artist vision was used to portray a topic they are trying to communicate.

This Anita moron isn't doing this out of the goodness of her heart, she's looking to exploit the opportunity to make serious cash......requesting to be a consultant......LMAO, she doesn't know shit about this world.
 
Derangel said:
The fact that you're calling YongYea an "outrage artist" proves you've never actually watched his content. And no it wasn't just a "left-leaning response". These sites create outright hit pieces on anyone or anything they don't like or think will get them clicks.
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yes, yongyea is an outrage artist. some of his content is good, other content just serves to "brigade" like everyone does. talking about game companies, fine. Talking about active game executives siphoning millions in bonus money, fine. Problems in the workplace, fine. Repeatedly attacking an individual who was upset about being fired because she felt she was being stalked by a fan, fuck that. That crosses a line into assholeness. A lot of youtubers did that also, brigading, just fake outrage for views, because "the anti-sjw internet" was angry and being fired was "not enough punishment".
 
Derangel said:
The fact that you're calling YongYea an "outrage artist" proves you've never actually watched his content. And no it wasn't just a "left-leaning response". These sites create outright hit pieces on anyone or anything they don't like or think will get them clicks.
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Bullshit. I was subscribed to him for a very long time. I'm well aware of his content and what he normally produces. Much of it I did like (obviously, which is why I was subscribed) but he DOES fall into the current trend of stirring up outrage as much as possible because it generates clicks, views and money. I have nothing against the guy personally, but you just have to understand these Youtubers do this as a fulltime job and they do what makes them money. Right now, outrage generates more money than anything else. It doesn't mean outrage is always out of place. Shit like indie developers promising Steam releases to backers for crowdfunded projects only to switch to Epic exclusivity later is pretty rotten. That deserves attention... a lot of the other shit is just drummed up outrage for the sake of outrage. Not everything is black and white with this shit.

edit: And just to be clear, I fully understand other gaming sites do the same type of thing - whatever their angle or political bent is. My whole point here is that these people do shit to generate money because outrage sells right now. It's really easy as a viewer/consumer of content to fall into the "fuck yeah, this is bullshit!!!" hype hole and start thinking everything is a scam, censorship attempt, blah blah blah. And again, much of it is. But a lot of it is hoopla over nothing. I just wish people would calm the fuck down, like I said I just get so tired of it.
 
SomeoneElse said:
Yea and Mike tore into their asses....He was NOT happy about it. I'm glad people are starting to pushing back but the problem here is that even when people are outted and challenged they take zero responsibility and blame others for the circumstance even when they started the mess.
I miss the days when games were actually viewed at a certain art form and artist vision was used to portray a topic they are trying to communicate.

This Anita moron isn't doing this out of the goodness of her heart, she's looking to exploit the opportunity to make serious cash......requesting to be a consultant......LMAO, she doesn't know shit about this world.
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It's crossed my mind that people are well aware of the fact that CDPR is about to make boatloads of money and are looking for their piece of the pie. After that tweet by Anita it clicked in my head that these other news outlets are probably looking for a payday that other companies may (I'm probably wrong here) give them when they want good press rather than bad. I'm not sure how the industry works to that extent but wouldn't be surprised if some publishers pay off news outlets to generate good press and potentially other companies pay to give bad press to competitors.
 
Lmah2x said:
It's crossed my mind that people are well aware of the fact that CDPR is about to make boatloads of money and are looking for their piece of the pie. After that tweet by Anita it clicked in my head that these other news outlets are probably looking for a payday that other companies may (I'm probably wrong here) give them when they want good press rather than bad. I'm not sure how the industry works to that extent but wouldn't be surprised if some publishers pay off news outlets to generate good press and potentially other companies pay to give bad press to competitors.
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It's a lot simpler than that: These websites live and die on the number of clicks and ad buys they get, so they pick the most popular thing of the moment and purposefully generate content that is extremely controversial to drive more traffic to their websites. This is why I advocate the judicious use of https://archive.today if you want to see what these idiots are talking about. It's the same with videos on Youtube.
 
I think all media outlets from the lone youtuber to network news has to be taken with a bucket of salt, and you can't pick them based on the channel. You have to dig deeper, and decide based on the individual article/piece in question. The video I posted above was pretty well reasoned, well spoken, conveyed the points/counterpoints with enough urgency, but without crossing lines (IMO anyway) so that's why I posted it. I don't endorse any specific person or outlet. Well, maybe Metal Jesus :D (he's just a cool nerd like the rest of us)
 
Lmah2x said:
It's crossed my mind that people are well aware of the fact that CDPR is about to make boatloads of money and are looking for their piece of the pie. After that tweet by Anita it clicked in my head that these other news outlets are probably looking for a payday that other companies may (I'm probably wrong here) give them when they want good press rather than bad. I'm not sure how the industry works to that extent but wouldn't be surprised if some publishers pay off news outlets to generate good press and potentially other companies pay to give bad press to competitors.
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I would not be surprised that that is also happening, but I doubt CDPR is involved with this. They are purposely putting these things out in the open to challenge people but not to drum up false press.
 
It's after 10:00 PDT and I don't see preorders up anywhere...

If they literally meant PST, I guess that means we have to wait another 42 minutes :cautious:.
 
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I ordered the Xbox version of the Collector's Edition. PC version is still not listed. Guess I'm buying it twice...
 
twonunpackmule said:
The game doesn't come out for another year. I doubt they'll run out of copies.
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Using my words without context. Nice.
IdiotInCharge said:
I ordered the Xbox version of the Collector's Edition. PC version is still not listed. Guess I'm buying it twice...
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If you ordered from Gamestop, I'd cancel unless you want a "sorry" e-mail come April next year. Or not. You may get lucky.
 
twonunpackmule said:
I mean, I literally just responded to the quote. It seems odd to me, personally, to be foaming at the bit for a preorder when the game is a year out. Just me.
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We're talking about Collector's Editions. Obviously one could go on Steam and order it immediately upon release and play.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
It's what's available... if a more reputable store comes up with the PC preorder I'll switch over. I silently questioned whether Gamestop will exist April of next year :ROFLMAO:
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That's a good point, too. How much longer are Gamestop going to be able to operate without making money :eek:.
twonunpackmule said:
I mean, I literally just responded to the quote. It seems odd to me, personally, to be foaming at the bit for a preorder when the game is a year out. Just me.
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Fair enough. For context I don't think it's necessary to preorder digital goods.
 
It does make you wonder how much longer Gamestop can hang around. You have to imagine they were hoping for those new consoles to hit this year.
 
twonunpackmule said:
Me neither. That's why I found it odd.
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I assume you realize they are talking about pre-ordering the Collectors Edition. I would totally pre-order the CE myself but i can't justify spending that much money when i have a large family to worry about.
 
SomeoneElse said:
I assume you realize they are talking about pre-ordering the Collectors Edition. I would totally pre-order the CE myself but i can't justify spending that much money when i have a large family to worry about.
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Who buys physical releases anymore? Don't you care about the environment?
 
Welp, that about went as expected. Sold out in seconds, scalpers selling on eBay for $400-$500. One of the reasons why I stopped trying to grab these stupid things over the past few years. Websites need to have a Ticketmaster-like system that holds items in your shopping cart for a limited period so it doesn't just rip the item out of it before you're able to checkout.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Hopefully the alt-right outrage circlejerk over some tweets or whatever will go away soon, shit gets old real fucking fast.
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I think you are genuinely confused. Most of the "outrage culture" has been on the alt-left side continuously attacking companies and telling them what they should do. This alt-right BS you are trying to claim is a response to the outrage culture from the alt-left. The alt-right "outrage" is really just people saying games are games and stop forcing developers to include every single niche in a game.
 
IdiotInCharge said:
I still see 'coming soon' on their site for PC?

I must be monitoring the wrong thing.
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I was watching the Reddit thread with my own windows on Best Buy, Gamestop and Amazon up. Best Buy hasn't gone live yet, Gamestop pulled it out of my cart when I clicked submit order, and Amazon didn't add it to my cart when I hit preorder.

https://www.amazon.com/CyberPunk-2077-PlayStation-4-Collectors/dp/B07TCJ8S2V/
https://www.gamestop.com/pc/games/cyberpunk-2077-collectors-edition/179029
 
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