Bought an ex-mining RX480 and it's crashing at stock

auntjemima said:
I am glad the thermal paste application did the trick
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I am too. I kind of wish there had been some sort of "thermal overload" flag thrown by the driver, but clocking down to prevent overheating damage is also good. The whole process made me recall building my P3 coppermine system and being very scared about ever forgetting cpu fans since it didn't have a thermal throttle built in.
 
The seller was, in the end, more generous than required too. Doing a full inspection of the card damaged the thermal pads (some were downright solid and brittle from years of use) and the seller gave a refund that covered the inexpensive thermal pads I bought from ebay.

On the one hand, it would have been nice to just have the card plug in and run but now the card is doing well with fresh paste and new thermal pads, which were worth doing on an older mining card nomatter what.
 
ChefJoe said:
Hi, I recently bought a MSI Gaming x RX480 4G card. I removed my prior Nvidia drivers using DDU and put in the RX 480, then installed Adrenaline. I'm new to AMD graphics cards and their wattman utility, so I'm trying to decipher what adjustments are reasonable and where to make them.

The card started up with the right clocks and a valid bios number, so I'm thinking it was flashed appropriately back to stock bios. However, when I tried to run Firestrike or Time Spy benchmarks, the card was crashing hard (blank screen, required full power and cmos reset to get running again).

I thought it might be the incorrect bios for the card, so I extracted the bios using GPU-Z and asked on MSI's forum for the bios that belongs with the serial number. The bios provided by MSI matches the SHA value of the one I extracted, so I have not flashed the bios and have relied on what the seller did.

I started from bios-default for the card (1303 / 1750 gpu/mem clock) and then disabled zero RPM, adjusted the power level higher, and used the slider to adjust GPU frequencies down 10%. Then I could game and even run benchmark programs without the hard crash, but it was like the card was briefly freezing every 2-3 seconds. When I looked at the longer graph in GPU-Z's clock, it looks like the card is throttling back frequently. When I only dialed the GPU back -7%, it was crashing mid-run.

I'm doing what testing I can on my end to see if this card is broken in some way or if there's something I'm overlooking, but the added confusion of new tools and different terminology is pretty high.

Does anyone out there have any thoughts about these sensor readings that were recorded running Time Spy/suggestions on what to try or might be wrong?View attachment 160778 View attachment 160779
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Anytime you change teams (nvidia --> AMD or AMD --> Nvidia), you need to wipe and reinstall your OS.
 
chameleoneel said:
Anytime you change teams (nvidia --> AMD or AMD --> Nvidia), you need to wipe and reinstall your OS.
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that's a garbage myth that hasn't been an issue since windows xp(and wasn't really an issue in XP either unless you were lazy). from windows vista on all drivers have been separated so that they never interact with each other.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
that's a garbage myth that hasn't been an issue since windows xp(and wasn't really an issue in XP either unless you were lazy). from windows vista on all drivers have been separated so that they never interact with each other.
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I can't take you seriously when you call my suggestion garbage and then call me lazy
 
chameleoneel said:
I can't take you seriously when you call my suggestion garbage and then call me lazy
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Your suggestion is garbage. We’ve been able to run AMD and NVidia GPUs side by side for quite some time now, much less swap one for the other without worrying about drivers. That’s not to mention switchable graphics in laptops.

And he wasn’t calling you lazy. He meant not uninstalling/cleaning the old drivers before installing new ones was lazy. There still wasn’t a requirement to wipe the OS and start fresh.
 
Agreed. Needing to re-install the OS was never true. Went from team green to red in my Win98 and XP rigs many times. One could easily do a registry search and omit the typical offending entries.
 
I might look into it if I find some benefits, but so far I've been pretty happy with the stock bios on this card with fresh TIM and pads. It comes up with an ASIC quality of 81.9% and I've run (Timespy benchmarks as my overclock test) at 1415 mhz core clock and 2135 mhz memory clock. Maybe that's not the best overclock test but I'm not sure there'd be much gain from faking a 580.
 
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