HOT ! Various 1TB NVMe with coveted E12 Controller $135 aprox retail

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Really no point in running these in raid unless you are running some sort of datacenter, just like having insane benchmarks, or love putting your data at risk. As fast as NVMe drives are you are not going to notice any difference in any sort of normal use having them in a raid 0 set.

Yeah, I plan on getting two, not for RAID I've always considered BIOS/Chipset software RAID to be marginal, and RAID0 to be way to risky. Besides, when you stripe them you get much better sequential speeds, but access times, latencies, etc. actually seem to go down, so it may even slow things down, rather than speed things up.

I just want more than 1TB of space. I wish there were a 2TB version of this drive. I'd buy that. It would be better, saving me some PCIe lanes.
 
I returned my extra 1tb today.

Waiting to build a 12 core zen 2 and get an e16 based drive instead.
 
I just want more than 1TB of space. I wish there were a 2TB version of this drive. I'd buy that. It would be better, saving me some PCIe lanes.

Sabrent Rocket 2 TB is just $260 up on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MTQTNVR/

Pretty sure it's the same Phison E12 powered, TLC Toshiba NAND as the others, especially according to the GoogleDocs spreadsheet that Maxx posted last page.
 
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I returned my extra 1tb today.

Waiting to build a 12 core zen 2 and get an e16 based drive instead.

Got one installed in this PC, waiting for other one to show up...then that will make 2 installed in PC... I also have a PCIE card that can handle 4 more...
 
Upgraded from a Samsung 850 Pro 1TB Sata drive to this, here is a quick benchmark comparison. Both tests are done with them as the OS drive.
 

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here are the scores for the inland drive

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Win 10
Gigabyte gaming M with Intel Z390
32GB ram
i5 9400F
Radeon RX580X
 
This is a great drive I have it in my MacBook pro, but it is a battery / energy hog compared to the stock apple nvme drive, but the space and performance makes me overlook the battery shortcomings.
 
I really don't need it but I reserved one anyway, not sure I'll even go get it. 50/50 afraid that NAND prices will explode back up right when I actually do need more space.
 
From everything that I've read it's not worth it to raid these drives in RAID0 because the CPU becomes the bottleneck yet people keep doing it, what's the point? In other words what kind of real life differences are you getting between running RAID0 and non raid? Is it like 5% or 100% faster? Now that the price is under $100 (it was just a matter of time) I'm thinking of picking one of these up to put in my laptop that came with a 256GB NVMe drive but not sure how to go about it. Do I just clone the stock 256GB NVMe drive to any external drive and after installing the new drive into the laptop copy the OS and everything else from the external HDD to it?
 
Do I just clone the stock 256GB NVMe drive to any external drive and after installing the new drive into the laptop copy the OS and everything else from the external HDD to it?

While that may work, typically if you have to do it in 2 steps you save the clone to a file on an external drive, swap the boot drive out, and write it in from the file. In this way of there is any sort of image translation like block size being done, it's only being done once and may not happen at all if the original and boot drive are similar.
 
From everything that I've read it's not worth it to raid these drives in RAID0 because the CPU becomes the bottleneck yet people keep doing it, what's the point?

I wondered about that. WIth SATA III on both my rigs, and an early gen m.2 laptop, I still see worthwhile improvements for RAID0 & SSD's. Usually going form 160MB/s to 300+, but I theorized that it would become an issue with much higher speeds in the 1500MB/s or higher range. Seemed reasonable that between CPU & RAM speeds, plus varying MOBO chipsets, that sooner or later there would be a bottleneck type issue.
 
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While that may work, typically if you have to do it in 2 steps you save the clone to a file on an external drive, swap the boot drive out, and write it in from the file. In this way of there is any sort of image translation like block size being done, it's only being done once and may not happen at all if the original and boot drive are similar.

Clonezilla is your friend!
 
Seemed reasonable that between CPU & RAM speeds, plus varying MOBO chipsets, that sooner or later there would be a bottleneck type issue.

Even with M.2 NVMe going straight to the CPU, there can be bottlenecks.

Fun part is that most of those bottlenecks are software. This is why there is no practical difference in usability between modern NVMe and SATA III SSDs on the desktop. The higher transfer rates are pretty meanlingless in daily use.
 
I'm trying to make sense if I could buy 2 of these and put them in RAID 0 on my current motherboard. Is this true? Would both go into the actual PCIE 3.0 slots standing up or the slide in slots?
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC/Specification

Intel® Z370 Chipset
  • 6 x SATA 6Gb/s ports1
  • 2 x M.2 slots (Key M)
    • Support up to PCIe 3.0 x4 and SATA 6Gb/s
    • Support PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe U.2 SSD with Turbo U.2 Host Card2
    • M2_1 slot supports 2242/ 2260 /2280/ 22110 storage devices
    • M2_2 slot supports 2242/ 2260 /2280 storage devices
    • Intel® Optane™ Memory Ready for all M.2 slots3
  1. M.2 and SATA ports maximum support 1x M.2 PCIe SSD + 1x M.2 SATA SSD + 5x SATA HDDs.
  2. The Turbo U.2 Host Card is not included, please purchase separately.
  3. Before using Intel® Optane™ memory modules, please ensure that you have updated the drivers and BIOS to the latest version from MSI website.
 
I'm trying to make sense if I could buy 2 of these and put them in RAID 0 on my current motherboard. Is this true? Would both go into the actual PCIE 3.0 slots standing up or the slide in slots?
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC/Specification
They would go in the m2 slots laying down on the motherboard. I'm genuinely curious what application you have for raiding these? I see no benefit with my Samsung 970 evo nvme over my old 850 evo sata ssd, outside of benchmarks and file transfers over 10gbit fiber. I really want to know what amazing things people are doing where a single nvme isn't enough speed!
 
Boot times on my new PC are about half of what it was with the crucial SSD...nearly 6x the read performance...
 
Sigh... I've not purchased four... I hate you MC. (PS, I was able to get the price guarantee adjustment on the first two I'd gotten for $120 down to the $100 price, but I had to go there in person to get it. You might be able to get corporate headquarters to send an email to the store oking that, but it's not something the store will normally do over the phone. They were doing it, for me, but it took over a half hour, and then the line got cut off. :-/ )
 
Man, if they come out with a newer version with the latest controller for close to the same price, I'll definitely be in for 2 for my next rig. When does the next Ryzen come out again? :-D
 
well installed the inland drive yesterday and today the PC will no longer boot from it. back to Microcenter it goes... when I ran windows setup it errored out stating that it could not install windows there... even after deleting and repartitioning the drive

edit: got windows to install again by disabling the SATA controller...we will see if it still works when I re-enable the controller
 
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disabling the controller did the trick, everything is installed and running properly
 
Does the SATA controller have to stay disabled ? Which board ?

Thanks

once I got Winblows 10 installed, I was able to turn the SATA controller on and the system booted. Evidently this is a common problem with Windows setup and having >2TB drive active during install and you are not putting the OS on it

Board is a Gigabyte mATX gaming M board with ye ol' Intel Z390 on it
 
boot time from power button press to windows login is 4 seconds. I have ultra fast boot enabled... this Inland drive is wicked fast
 
I swear I looked the other day and these were available to be shipped. Am I crazy or does that option come and go?
 
I swear I looked the other day and these were available to be shipped. Am I crazy or does that option come and go?

Seems to come and go regarding being able to order them online and have them shipped.... I ordered two that way.
 
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