It’s basically the same thing right? 8...ish... cores at 5ghz boost.How long before the scammers on Ebay start to ship i9-9900KS boxes that have a FX-9590 in the plastic tray for extra laughs?
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It’s basically the same thing right? 8...ish... cores at 5ghz boost.How long before the scammers on Ebay start to ship i9-9900KS boxes that have a FX-9590 in the plastic tray for extra laughs?
Well, guaranteed 5GHz is something new. Remember that most CPU SKUs are 'bins'. As in nearly all. You going to belittle AMD for their X series? That's less of a bump than this CPU.
That isn't officially a source though from intel. Nice troll. I can't believe all the whining about this!I made 0 comments on amds x series because im not commenting on a amd thread where they bin one of there chips without telling how much they charge for the binning. and no its not something new you can buy "guaranteed" 5.1ghz 9900k chips from silicon lottery the only thing that changed is who does the binning.
That isn't officially a source though from intel. Nice troll. I can't believe all the whining about this!
For the consumer who will buy these CPUs? None. Enterprise hardware is in a completely different class
did intel not annonce a 5ghz 8 core binned 9900k without the price? I was only commenting on that I dont care what else the anandtech article had to say as thats just farther analysis of the statment from intel.
So your prediction is that a price isn't coming?
Not an official one.the price is the only part of this "news" that matters. showing it without a price is meaningless as we already know that quite a few 9900k can do 5ghz on 8 cores and you can already get a 9900k that can do 5ghz for 100 extra
Not an official one.
Performance crushing microcode and other patches appear to be going out to everyone, regardless of if their workload is impacted by the security vulnerabilities.
I'm not convinced AMD is safe from this either though. It seems to me it's only a matter of time until researchers find fault with any SMT implementation.
I would rather have a private company doing the binning. Leaves more golden chips in the supply for the regular price
Actually it is a true source from iNtel.That isn't officially a source though from intel. Nice troll. I can't believe all the whining about this!
I was talking about the silicon lottery stuff, obviously.Actually it is a true source from iNtel.
They're trying to drum up some pre-keynote Computex excitement since they got nothing else going on.
I'd rather have Intel's warranty.
even if it was $500 more then a silicon lottery chip? point being not to many comments can be made about the value of this news without the price. I stated that very early in this thread.
I want to know how they plan to get around the AVX heat wall. That was the limiting factor on my 8086K. They should offer optional microcode that cuts AVX rate in half or 3/4.
Performance crushing microcode and other patches appear to be going out to everyone, regardless of if their workload is impacted by the security vulnerabilities.
I'm not convinced AMD is safe from this either though. It seems to me it's only a matter of time until researchers find fault with any SMT implementation.
The term balls to the wall is thrown around a lot these days.I wonder if this thing has any head room to overclock beyond 5GHz.
Because most here aren't interested in incremental iGPU gains.
So instead of discussing complete new architecture with new CPU cores (unknown perf gain) and new iGPU (~60%+ gains in just released benchmarks), you are more interested in discussing old technology which is just binning to a a 6% boost in all core boost speed?
If 60% is incremental, what does that make 6%?
So is this a response to AMD's Ryzen third generation family of CPU's and this is the best that Intel can come up with? 5Ghz does sound nice but a slightly higher binned i9 9900k is rather lacking innovation from a company that has been the leader of CPU's for many years is a joke.
Same old CPU but with a higher overclock that most likely will require exotic expensive cooling to keep the temperatures down. Even if this "new" i9 9900k can run 5Ghz on air I'm still not impressed.
Price and TDP? If this is a $500 chip at 125W, then we're dealing with a decent deal. If it is a $1000 chip running at 250W, then we know that Intel is stretching.
Will Intel have to wear the "But we have better performance/$" title for a change? Wouldn't mind that, it's shaping up to be a nice time to be a consumer with a budget.It will be a premium on top of 9900K, which is already too expensive ( even more so now with Ryzen 3K series).
Intel doesn't need a binned, more expensive, even more niche CPU. They need significant price cuts on desktop CPUs.
Will Intel have to wear the "But we have better performance/$" title for a change? Wouldn't mind that, it's shaping up to be a nice time to be a consumer with a budget.
Because it's a guarantee.My six cores operate at 5ghz all the time......why is this news....
Because it's a guarantee.
Because 100% of 9900k's don't do 5Ghz.
Because it'll do it with less voltage than yours.
Because marketing.
Now get out of my office.
Intel is damn lucky AMD doesn't have a 7nm APU ready, or they would start decimating the laptop market as well.
Well its 8 cores, for one thing.My six cores operate at 5ghz all the time......why is this news....
Because it's a guarantee.
Because not every 9900k will do 5Ghz.
Because it'll do it with less voltage than yours.
Because marketing.
Now get out of my office.
Downclocking a bin affects everything. Cutting AVX performance would only affect AVX. Depends on how much AVX is threaded through today's software stack. I don't run any pure AVX loads. I just wish it would rate-limit issuing AVX ops after a threshold for my usage pattern. If you run AVX all day long, then yeah, just drop the mult.Wouldn't the AVX rate cut turn out worse performance than just downclocking a bin?
9900k already blows the tdp out the water on any normal 'turbo' use.Price and TDP? If this is a $500 chip at 125W, then we're dealing with a decent deal. If it is a $1000 chip running at 250W, then we know that Intel is stretching.
More than security holes I think there is an issue of trust here..... can you really trust a company that had this go on for a decade without a peep from anyone?
Downclocking a bin affects everything. Cutting AVX performance would only affect AVX. Depends on how much AVX is threaded through today's software stack. I don't run any pure AVX loads. I just wish it would rate-limit issuing AVX ops after a threshold for my usage pattern. If you run AVX all day long, then yeah, just drop the mult.