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Except that those things were not moved. Seriously, have folks already forgotten how to use MMC?
I've never heard of MMC. What is it?
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Windows 10 1903 Unleashed to Public
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I've never heard of MMC. What is it?
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The thing you posted a screenshot of earlier
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I honestly want to get my feet wet with PowerShell, but man, this isn't how I wanted to start
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If you type in mmc.exe in the run dialog box, a blank MMC comes up and you can add anything available in it. (Helps to make a custom one, if you want.)
Edit: Microsoft Management Console
By the way, what version of Windows 10 is being reported on your computer? (I am sure you have at least Pro but I would like to see what it is actually saying at the moment.)
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So, basically, Linux is a dumpster fire since I am certain I can create a list much, much larger than that. Those things above are both minor and rare, I would imagine.
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Good to see that issues brought up by Insiders months ago are still outstanding in the wide public release.
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Replace Windows 10 with the Linux Desktop distribution and it would be true. (Linux has to have 5 different ways or more just to run a game that is not even native to it.) Therefore, I just applying your standards across the board.
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The issues list looks a lot worse when condensed- a lot of it has to do with outdated drivers or software, and at least according to Microsoft, affected systems will not be automatically updated.
For me, the removable media and redirected drives issues could be problematic. We'll see. I'm due for a wipe and rebuild myself.
For me, the removable media and redirected drives issues could be problematic. We'll see. I'm due for a wipe and rebuild myself.
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Such as?
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Even better, the issue you mentioned that concerns you prevents you for installing the update, basically blocking it.
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The thing you posted a screenshot of earlier
Ah, never knew the name of that thing. I usually get there by right clicking "this PC" in the file browser.
So, if Local User management is gone from the left panel in the MMC, is there a way to get it back?
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Come on old man, it's a search away :-p
It's the Microsoft Management Console. On servers it's largely been / being replaced with Server Manager and various web tools, and most of those tools are unneeded on desktops or can otherwise be directly accessed.
It is however fairly convenient for granular local and domain access all in one spot.
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I hope I don't have a problem with Brightness defaulting I have a Nvidia card so I hope it doesn't reset.
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So, has anyone found how to manage local users in 1903?
I'm talking:
- Change Administrator vs. standard User
- Remove existing accounts
In my install on my mom's laptop the "family and other users" menu in settings is gone, and local user control is absent from MMC.
I consider this an absolutely necessary feature in order to use Windows. May have to uninstall it if I can't find the setting.
I'm talking:
- Change Administrator vs. standard User
- Remove existing accounts
In my install on my mom's laptop the "family and other users" menu in settings is gone, and local user control is absent from MMC.
I consider this an absolutely necessary feature in order to use Windows. May have to uninstall it if I can't find the setting.
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only the first 3 issues of that list are still issues, the rest are already fixed the same page state that in status as "investigating and mitigated" and that include those issues found in insiders preview months ago.
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You and I have very different definitions of a dumpster fire
Exactly!
By the way, I do not think Linux nor MacOS is a dumpster fire, although the 1809 version of Windows 10 came close. (Not for me personally, mind you.......) They definitely took notice of the 1809 issues and dropped an anchor on the pace of what they are doing and releasing.
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Honestly, something is screwed up with that installation, if I am picturing things correctly. (Have you tried accessing the actual administrator account or a new account to see if they exist there?)
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Then it's a good thing this isn't a Linux thread...
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What kind of even "power user" makes constant changes to settings requiring admin access?
You set it up once when you install, and other than installing/removing hardware/software, you don't really need to go tinkering in the detailed settings a whole lot.
This way if something is asking for your admin password, and you didn't request it, you can be suspicious.
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smaller list than other updates and even some amd/nv gpu drivers.
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I guess that is possible. I don't usually see this with from scratch installs though. I'll have to take a look when I get back home.
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Both platforms accede to a myriad of criticisms for their end-user experiences and neither should be absolved of such- but yeah, we should probably keep general OS criticisms out of a thread that centers on a specific release.
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did you try "users" in the control panel?
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That's crazy. Try launching lusrmgr.msc from Start > Run and let us know what happens.
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Just some user trying to sway the thread off topic.
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Yeah I wish Microsoft would tone down their OS just make it plain jane basic everything started with those Live tiles in Windows 8. So can you customize the Chromium browser colors or is it just black and white?
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I just want to be able to buy a version of Pro that's the same as their LTSC enterprise release. Or hell, be able to install Pro as LTSC.
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Which I am in favor of. I think they said starting with either 1703 or 1803 that the spring releases would be feature-lite.
For people who want to stay conservative with their updates, waiting for the spring release each year may be a better option.
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Ah, nope, just pointing out the fallacy of the constant blind bashing. (Ohh, Ohh, Microsoft thread, time to post my favorite plane picture and call Windows 10 a dumpster fire.
) The topic is actually Windows 10 19H1 being released to the public.
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It won't let me upgrade because of Hardware incompatibility it might have something to do with the external drive I bet a clean install would work but I suppose I have to use the
regular WIndows update.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4500988/windows-update-hold-for-windows-10
regular WIndows update.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4500988/windows-update-hold-for-windows-10
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Will it let you run the upgrade if you just unplug the external drive? Could be related to the well documented USB drive bug preventing an upgrade.
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I just did a Clean Install I'm crazy I know but have everything backed up on other drives. I think I might have disabled updates and I know for a fact with this new Win 10 1903 that you need the newest Nvidia drives ect… Not sure if that was the problem. The only thing that is bugging me I have two OS partions on startup so I might have to install again.
Yup installed Geforce Experience was the only way I could get this 1903 version of Win 10 to work with this OS if you try the stand alone driver it won't pick up.
Yup installed Geforce Experience was the only way I could get this 1903 version of Win 10 to work with this OS if you try the stand alone driver it won't pick up.
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just take it to a shop.
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This is why I usually never update right on launch.
I wait several months and let other people deal with the launch bugs instead of me
I did install 1903 on my moms laptop last night though, because god knows when I'll get another opportunity, so I might as well send her off with the latest version, so there aren't tons of upgrades right off the bat.
Ah, nope, just pointing out the fallacy of the constant blind bashing. (Ohh, Ohh, Microsoft thread, time to post my favorite plane picture and call Windows 10 a dumpster fire.
I wouldn't take it so weirdly personally as though your job or life depended on it.
Windows 10 updates have been like russian roulette. MS has to take ownership of it. When the track record has been "blind" updates that do things like delete a user's entire Documents folder -- and that one wasn't even that long ago -- then yes people have a right to be concerned every time MS sounds the update air raid siren.
Most people would be thrilled for MS to pull their heads out and return to sanity, and simply make the OS better without all the gotchas, and useless pseudo mobile crap that everyone ignores anyway.
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when there is literally millions of different configs there is bound to be a glitch or two on some systems. MS cant test every possible config, yet people always freak the fuck out if there is a glitch.
The flaw in that argument is PCs haven't become exponentially more complicated since the Windows 7 era - there were "literally millions of different configs" in the Windows 7 era too. A 9900k + Z390 + 2080Ti + NVMe drive runs just fine on Windows 7 with some tweaking to get around MS's artificial blocks.
And yet with Win7, real software engineers and a real QA division somehow managed to not crap all over their customers by properly testing everything, with service packs and delta-updating instead of full-reinstalls masquerading as a "feature update" deleting user data and upending the entire fucking OS.
MS just needs to take ownership of it, there's really no excusing it. Going forward, only consistency over time can rebuild user trust.
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