X470 motherboards , MSI or Asus

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I have the choice of 2 motherboards.

board will go with a 2700x and 2x8 ddr4 3200 ram

both are x470

MSI gaming pro carbon
Asus ROG strix

im used to MSI , but wouldnt mind a change.
 
MSI Gaming pro Carbon was the best board I have ever used so far. I came from a X370 Crosshair VI hero. Hynix memory runs at 3200 rated timings. Overclock was simple and straight forward. I am even using a Ryzen 7 1700.
 
The MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon looks like a good board. I've worked with the Gaming Pro, but not the Carbon specifically. MSI's been on point over the last couple of years so I'd have no trouble recommending them.
 
I used both the Crosshair VII and the X470-F Strix board and they were both excellent. I wouldn't hesitate buying either one.
 
I have the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon been using it for 10 months and it has been very stable.
 
I have the carbon as well, it's solid.

Be advised though - Do not update to the latest bios. It breaks PBO, and you can't get EDC to go above 140 via bios setting.

That being said, you might want to get a Gigabyte X470 board instead. Gigabyte is enabling PCIE 4.0 on their x470 boards. It is unknown if MSI boards will get this.
 
i posses 2 msi gaming pro carbon x370, and x470.

x370 had problems with holding clocks over 2933MHz, and x470 could hold same hynix dies at 3200MHz.

The cpu runs little bit hot in msi carbon. I recommend going with asrock taichi - bios updates are little behind but its stable - while i cannot say same thing on msi's boards (its 70% works fine, and 30% revert, and i have installed every single bios update since its been released).


I say try Asrock Taichi, or Asus rog strix instead. They have more phases too.
 
Only thing I'd consider replacing wouldm B450m would be Crosshair 7 if I was in the market.

I need a 2700 before I need another nvme drive or more overclocking capability tho.
 
I'm considering just going with an x470 Asus board rather than x570 to save some cash. Is there no way to update the BIOS on the x470 without a compatible CPU? I see these boards do not have the flash back. Only option to contact AMD support for a boot kit?

I imagine the x470 I get would be on the shelf a while and not have the latest bios installed.
 
bigdogchris said:
I'm considering just going with an x470 Asus board rather than x570 to save some cash. Is there no way to update the BIOS on the x470 without a compatible CPU? I see these boards do not have the flash back. Only option to contact AMD support for a boot kit?

I imagine the x470 I get would be on the shelf a while and not have the latest bios installed.
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Actually, you can update a BIOS on a motherboard without a CPU installed. Unfortunately, this feature isn't available on all models. The ones that generally have it are on the more expensive side of the spectrum. ASUS typically has this option at lower price points than other board makers do.
 
Dan_D said:
Actually, you can update a BIOS on a motherboard without a CPU installed. Unfortunately, this feature isn't available on all models. The ones that generally have it are on the more expensive side of the spectrum. ASUS typically has this option at lower price points than other board makers do.
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Yeah I saw that. I'm just looking at the Pro which is the entry level board. I do not believe it has that feature.
 
bigdogchris said:
I'm considering just going with an x470 Asus board rather than x570 to save some cash. Is there no way to update the BIOS on the x470 without a compatible CPU? I see these boards do not have the flash back. Only option to contact AMD support for a boot kit?

I imagine the x470 I get would be on the shelf a while and not have the latest bios installed.
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AMD has a CPU loan program for this purpose. Check the details of it. They’ll loan you a compatible CPU to update, then you mail it back.

Looks like this is still for last gen. My guess is they'll do this again for Zen2 CPU's once they come out, however.
 
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Sounds like a hassle. I expect you should be able to find a x470 rev2 or some compatibility sticker on the box on newer 470 mobos soon enough.
 
sethk said:
Sounds like a hassle. I expect you should be able to find a x470 rev2 or some compatibility sticker on the box on newer 470 mobos soon enough.
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Seems like the Gigabyte x470 boards support bios recovery without a CPU, so it shouldn't be as big of a hassle.
 
Yes a cpu-less flash would be easy enough, but a previous poster said the board they want does not support it and was planning on trying the not yet announced for Ryzen 3000 lending program to borrow and ship a CPU from a waitlist - that’s what I was referring to as sounding like a hassle to me, IMHO, etc.
 
Didn’t MSI say they wouldn’t support Ryzen 3 on any of their first gen motherboards, while ASUS said they would update the Bios for every Ryzen motherboard in their lineup to be compatible with Ryzen three?

I read that a few months ago. With the in mind I would support ASUS over MSI, because it seems ASUS is supporting you, the consumer with greater potential backwards compatibility in the future.
 
Archaea said:
Didn’t MSI say they wouldn’t support Ryzen 3 on any of their first gen motherboards, while ASUS said they would update the Bios for every Ryzen motherboard in their lineup to be compatible with Ryzen three?

I read that a few months ago. With the in mind I would support ASUS over MSI, because it seems ASUS is supporting you, the consumer with greater potential backwards compatibility in the future.
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The problem with Asus is the shit warranty service.

Personally, the Gigabyte boards are probably the best choice, followed by MSI.

As for not supporting first gen boards - Most of the first gen boards are built for the 95w parts of the first gen. This is why MSI likely isn't bothering. Where as with the second gen boards they support the bare minimum power requirements.
 
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Is Gigabyte's warranty service now good? Last time I had to use, it sucked. 1 2 3 4 5
Edit - I should point out, I'm not saying you should go with Asus over Gigabyte because one has better warranty service than the other, Asus RMA sucks too.
 
If you don't need to rob 8 lanes for a 2nd nvme drive, get a Pro Carbon.
If you need lots of nvme drives direct to CPU, hedt.
 
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